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Son23
Posted on 06-29-09 02:08 AM (rev. 2 of 07-02-09 10:45 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 109519


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*There has been an edit. Please Scroll down. I have kept the original as a sort of reference*

Greetings

I have had this idea for a little while now to have optional boss battles, and if possible, optional party members. I will present you with the idea itself and and problems I have.

Idea:
Link- I wanted to create a secret passage in Booster's tower that only appears if you talk to someone after you beat all the bosses in the Factory. The person would be at the Casino. Now then, this would lead you to an area much like the Culex area. You would run straight across and it would take you to a forest. There would be a scene where Link wards off a shy guy. Link thinks Mario is another enemy and attacks *Boss battle*. After you defeat him he will appear in Mario's Pad. You can speak with him and he would be able to join your party. Now I am not sure if I can include him in, or if I will have to swap someone out of the party. If the case would have to be swapping someone out, then I have the idea to have that character who was swapped out wait at Mario's Pad, until you need him again. I also had the idea of allowing you to fight Link as many times as you wish. This would come about when you speak with Link at Mario's Pad. The option would be "Join?" or "Battle?"
Another Idea for Link would be another Boss battle. This battle would have a boss as strong, if not stronger, as Culex. That would be Dark Link. To fight him, Link must be in your party (doesn't have to be in battle), and you go to the area where you first fought Link.
I also would like to mention, Link does have some equipment that you can buy at shops. I believe that would be easy. He also has "uber" equipment if you beat dark Link.

Luigi- This is simple...He's outside of Mario's Pad once you reach Bowser's Castle for the 2nd time. He will say something like:
"Mario, I heard all that you've done. I want to help too"
Then an option would appear:
"Help me get stronger!" *Boss Battle*
"Come with me!" *Leave out a Character (Same idea as above)*

Now then, they both will have their own armor's, move-sets, etc.

Problems:
1.) No one is willing to make Link sprites in SMRPG style. One could edit Geno, however I have tried and I have failed. I even went on a spriting request forum and I got basically laughed at. So I need some help there.

2.) I have never hacked before. I have Lazyshell and am trying to learn how to use it, but it's so confusing and would like some help. I really want to learn.

3.) I need to find out how to import custom sprites because I do have Luigi sprites. I do not know how to save them as .dat files.

4.) If I do this I will need massive help from some people and not many are will to help. I need some programmers who know what they're doing, because I know a lot of stuff above would need specific codes.

Hell I would be glad if someone took this idea and did it. So long as I get the credit for the idea. However I really want to do this.

Constructive criticism, comments, ideas, help is welcome.

----EDIT 6/2/09----

Link:
This idea goes like this. Anytime after you beat booster's tower (level 15 recommended), there will be a hidden path under the stairs on the first floor. That will take you to an area like the area where you speak to Culex. Walk further and it'll take you to a forest (going to try to put in Saria's Song. I have a SNES sounding version). You will see a sniffit running away. Link will run after it and see Mario. He will think Mario is a bad guy like the Sniffit and then they fight.

*Boss Link Attacks*
I haven't decided on his Boss stats yet, will most likely come up with that when I am programing.
He attacks twice in one round.
Basic Attack 1 (Hits with sword)
Basic Attack 2 (Hits with shield)
Special 1: Arrow Rain
Special 2: Din's Fire (A small fireball raises into the air. Then a large one, Meteor, will hit the center of the stage and explode, starting out small then growing large until the entire screen is white)
Special 3: Spin Attack (Hits all)
Special 4: Slam (He jumps into the air and slams his sword into someone [the down A attack in SSBB])
This battle will be hard because most of his attacks hits all, and he attacks twice.
*End Boss*

After you defeat him, he backs up, shakes his head and walks away. Go to Mario's Pad and he will be there. Talk to him and you are given the option: "Battle?" or "Join?"
Link will always be at Mario's Pad even if he joins you. Only when you choose battle the boss is called Mimic Link and is slightly easier.
Now then after you defeat all the bosses in the Factory, you can go back to where you first fought Link. There will be Dark Link. Link will say, "?!". This boss battle will be as hard or HARDER than Culex.

*Dark Link Boss*
He attacks 3 times in one round 25% of the time, other than that it'll be twice.
I want this boss to be so strong, you'd HAVE to be at level 50 to even put up some sort of fight.
Basic Attack 1(Double slash)
Basic Attack 2(Stab)
Special 1: Torrential Arrow (Arrow rain, but look larger and a final large arrow strikes the middle)
Special 2: Meteor Swarm (Several Meteor's hit the characters. Causes Fear)
Special 3: Split (He splits himself into 3. Each one can do the same attacks)
Special 4: Shredder
Special 5: Dark Fire Wall (You can guess)
Special 6: Spin Attack
Special 7: Dark Beam (Looks like Geno Beam with and explosion on one character)
Special 8: Slam
Special 9: Silver Bullet
Special 10: Rullet (spell check. You know the one where the red crystal goes over their heads and randomly kills someone)
Special 11: Face your fear (Only applies when Link is in Battle. He makes your allies except Link vanish for 3 rounds)
Most specials will not happen until certain points (I.E: 75% HP, 50% HP and 25% HP)
*End Boss Battle*

If you defeat him you will get Link's Uber equipment. Dark Blade (Link's version of Lazy Shell), Shadow Tunic (Like Super Suit), Black Gauntlets (Prevents Status ailments, and resists all elemental's). The only other thing he says is "!!" against Smithy.
*Link Attacks and equipment*
Special 1: Spin Attack (Hold Y for Power)
Special 2: Slam (Acts like Super Jump)
Special 3: Din's Fire (Hold Y for Power)
Special 4: Farore's Wind (makes one enemy disappear)
Special 5: Arrow Rain (Goes the other way and green)
Special 6: Nayru's Love (Acts like red essence. Gets it at max level, and costs a lot of FP for fairness)
Special 7: Triforce Smash (SSBB final smash. Hold Y for Power. Instant kill for normal enemies if you hit Y at right time)

Weapons (some bought, some found. Stats undetermined now):
Wooden Sword: Like Hammer (starts with it)
Dagger: Stab twice (Marrymore)
Sword: Like hammer, but two verticals and one slash (Lands End Chest and Monstro Town)
Magic sword: Looks like the attack with the master sword in LttP and hits twice (Nimbus Land)
Master Sword: Combine Sword and Magic Sword (Hidden Chest inside the Sword).
Dark Blade: Attack 4 times - vertical, slash, slash, stab (Dark Link)

Equipment (Stats undetermined):
Tunic (Starts with it)
Work Pants
Lazy Shell
Water Tunic (50% less water damage. Seaside store)
Lava Tunic (50% less fire damage. Volcano store)
Star Tunic (Croco)
Magic Armor (Secret Chest inside the sword. You have to fall down)
Shadow Tunic (Dark Link)

Accessories (Can equip other accessories but here are some of his. Stats undetermined):
Gauntlet (Starts with it)
Sticky Gauntlet (Found in ship)
Spike Gauntlet (Monstro Town)
Silver Gauntlet (Strength +. Nimbus Land)
Gold Gauntlet (Strength ++. Volcano)
Black Gauntlet (Dark Link)

Luigi:
Once you reach Nimbus Land, he appears at Mario's Pad. Speak with him and he says "Mario, I heard all that you've done. I want to help you too!" Now the first time around your options are: "Help me get stronger!" *Boss Battle* or "Sorry."
*Boss Luigi*
Attacks Twice
Basic Attack 1 (Kick)
Basic Attack 2 (Double Jump)
Special 1: Hammertime (Like Hammer Bro's)
Special 2: Oops! (He tries to jump, but he falls on you)
Special 3: Flame Wall
Special 4: Burn Orb (Like Fire Ord but larger)
Special 5: Spin Jump (He jumps on all three)
Special 6: Valor Up
Special 7: Vigor Up
*End Boss*

Luigi then says "Wow! You really are powerful. I wish you luck!" Talk to him again he says the same thing as before, but this time the options are: "Help me get stronger!" or "Come with me!"
Luigi's is more simple.
The only other time he speaks is when you face Smithy. He says "Any enemy of Mario's is an enemy of mine!"

Luigi can equip anything Mario does with a few new ones. Luigi's Attack is slightly lower than Mario's
Weapons:
Unequip: Kicks
Sticky Shoes: Like Sticky glove, but 3rd attack he kicks with a big shoe. Only Luigi can equip. (Nimbus Land)
Awkward Shell: Lazy Shell equivalent. Found in the same place. Luigi falls when he attacks. Only Luigi can equip.

Equipment (Anything Mario Equips):
Star Overalls (Croco)

Accessories (Anything):
Flower Ring (Boosts Special. He comes with it. His best accessory)

Specials: His Specials are higher than Mario's, possibly the highest in the game.
Special 1: Jump
Special 2: Fireball
Special 3: Hammertime (Works like Fireball)
Special 4: Flame Wall
Special 5: Ultra Jump
Special 6: Oops!

It's going to be hard to do this >.<'
Let me know what you think.

Arbe
Posted on 06-29-09 03:33 PM Link | Quote | ID: 109546

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Posted by Son23
Problems:
1.) No one is willing to make Link sprites in SMRPG style. One could edit Geno, however I have tried and I have failed. I even went on a spriting request forum and I got basically laughed at. So I need some help there.

2.) I have never hacked before. I have Lazyshell and am trying to learn how to use it, but it's so confusing and would like some help. I really want to learn.

3.) I need to find out how to import custom sprites because I do have Luigi sprites. I do not know how to save them as .dat files.

4.) If I do this I will need massive help from some people and not many are will to help. I need some programmers who know what they're doing, because I know a lot of stuff above would need specific codes.

Hell I would be glad if someone took this idea and did it. So long as I get the credit for the idea. However I really want to do this.

Constructive criticism, comments, ideas, help is welcome.


I think this is a really good idea for a hack, in all honesty, and you should do everything you can to make it happen.

1)

Did you even look around the internet at all? Here are some custom isometric Link sprites I found within 7 seconds of reading that sentence.

2)

Everyone has to start somewhere. There are plenty of tutorials, written for all kinds of people. Unless you have a learning difficulty of some kind, you can probably learn to use LazyShell.

3)

See 2).

4)

Unfortunately, the Internet is not a wonderful happy place where you can go if you want help with a project. At least not to any large extent. You're going to have to accept very early on that if you can't find someone to help you now, you may have to learn to do the things you need to get done. And is that so bad?

Son23
Posted on 06-30-09 02:06 AM Link | Quote | ID: 109591


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I'm glad you think it's a good idea

I did see those link sprites before. That was one of the websites I went to. I didn't like them very much...they wouldn't fit well into the game. I could easily add the shading, however the overhead perspective wouldn't be there. It also doesn't look at "bulgy" as the other sprites do.

If I could get a team together that would make this easy. I mean I know there may be some people willing to do this on here. I would need a spriter (other than myself), someone who knows codes to make the codes, and battle scripts. That person can make the scripts and I could put them in. The other spriter could make Link sprites (be it from scratch or edited Geno sprites) while I edit more Luigi sprites. I can also write down all the parts and details that go into the idea. Everyone would get credit for each part.

I do realize that I may have to end up doing this by myself. In which case this might just end up only having Luigi. But I am going to try and find people on here and other sites.

Kiokuffiib11
Posted on 07-17-09 12:00 AM (rev. 2 of 07-17-09 12:13 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 110713


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I personally like graphics editing.

Especially sprite editing.

After I'm done with this project, I could probably help.

I promised someone I'd do a quick graphics edit once I get finished with my project, but, I'm having MAJOR problems with one thing. ( http://acmlm.kafuka.org/board/thread.php?id=5182 ) and once I get that done, the rest of the project will fly by. Then I could help you with yours.

Send me a private note or E-mail me at Kiokuffiib11@Hotmail.com if this sounds good to you.

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