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Kernal
Posted on 03-10-07 04:26 AM Link | Quote | ID: 13077

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I seem to be alone on this, but I actually prefer emulation over the real thing.

For one thing, emulation gives you access to a wider variety of games. I can play Japanese FDS roms without having to import an actual Disk System and somehow get it to work. I can play lots of romhacks, most of which are never made in cartridge format. And it's easier to hunt down roms of whatever game I want to play than it is to scour jilions of fleamarkets and whatnot to find the cartridge.

Another thing I love about emulators is savestates. Sure I used them to cheat, but only for really tough games like the Lone Ranger for NES. Mostly I use savestates so I can stop playing and continue right where I left off, without getting tossed back to the last save point or losing my stats (like Kirby's Adventure where your lives are reset to a default amount). Emulation is even better for NES games as very few of them had a battery save at all, requiring you to instead type 30-character passwords where I looked like l which looked like 1, and one wrong character causes you to lose all your progress. Some games like SMB3 had no save mechanism at all despite being quite large, and I often can't play a game in one sitting.

Also, I like being able to enter more than 3 Game Genie codes, turn them on and off at will, and enter them using a keyboard rather than a NES controller. I rarely use GG codes but I like to try out weird ones sometimes.

In addition, old systems break. My Commodore 64 broke a couple years ago and my NES only barely works. With an emulator, I don't have to blow into the cartridge 30 times, insert it just right, and wait for the planets to properly align to play a Zelda 1 cartridge whose battery doesn't work anyway.

Still, I like the way NES games appear on a TV screen...

Katelyn
Posted on 03-10-07 04:29 AM Link | Quote | ID: 13083

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I love playing Doki Doki Panic on a ROM, I don't have to import a FDS and try to get it to work

Also, my 2600 and NES don't work well, so I can just grab the ROMs of 2600 and NES games that I own, and play them in emulators

MaxKnight
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Emulation can provide interesting opportunities. 90% of all game data can be blamed on playing the ROM in an emulator. Countless hours are poured into ROM hacking, and fruitful results pour forth, in the form of playable, enjoyable game hacks, most of which can only actually be played via emulation.

Yes, I find emulation to be a much more fitting way to play games, especially when your older systems tend not to want to work right in the first place. Not to mention emulators tend to have tools and capabilities that the real thing just cannot have.

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Ailure
Posted on 03-10-07 04:39 AM Link | Quote | ID: 13096

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I'm less distracted on the real thing, and tend to do better.

That's about it really. And some games just seems more fun to play on a TV.

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For new games, I like actually playing them.

For older games, I like to re-experience them via emulation.

Although I do like sitting down and playing on the SNES, since having a controller handy and playing on a huge screen just can't compare to a keyboard (although I like it more than a controller, go fig) and monitor...

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Emulation for the win! Without emulation, Acmlm's Board probably wouldn't exist. Emulation lets me play the games that I missed when I was growing up. Some of these games include the Megaman X1-3, Chrono Trigger, and a lot of other ones. Also, like MaxKnight said, the ROM hacking is the best part.

The bad part of emulation is the lack of a controller. I'm stuck with using a keyboard. I like controllers better.

Kernal
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I got a USB gamepad for my computer a few years ago. It's similar to a SNES controller in button layout but has hand grips. Any decent emulator should be able to recognize it and you can customize the button mappings.

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I prefer playing them on consoles whenever I can. Often I can't, as is the case with SNES games.

Plus, I like to know that the game I'm playing will work without any issues that weren't there to begin with. Some of my favorite SNES games (Stunt Race FX and SMRPG spring to mind) have assorted issues in emulators; SRFX's graphics go screwy in ZSNES and the sound gets bad in SNES9x, and SMRPG has sound issues and occasional minor graphics problems in both last time I checked.

NES games are the main exception; I almost always prefer emulation for those because of the lack of convenient saving.

Dwedit
Posted on 03-10-07 05:56 AM (rev. 2 of 03-10-07 05:57 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 13202


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I've noticed that Mike Tyson's Punch Out is far easier on the real thing, since it does not have any lag between the screen and your actions. I keep getting knocked out by Tyson on an emulator, but can often beat him on the real console.

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Emulation allows so much more, but playing on the real thing gives that nice old feel that emulation can't replace, so I don't really know

Sometimes I just load a NES ROM into Nestopia with the NTSC filter and use my gamepad, which is probably the closest I can get ... although it's hard to resist using the turbo/rewind features that wouldn't be available normally


It's nicer for handhelds, though, at least when you don't need the portability

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Posted on 03-10-07 06:21 AM (rev. 2 of 03-10-07 06:23 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 13216

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Heh, if you remove the scanlines it probably would look closer on how it looks on my PAL tv. The NES seems to distorts pixles a little bit, so they're not totally squary, although I can't tell if it's the TV or if it's just the PPU being that way.

And then there's the timing diffrence with PAL games, although it's not really that noticeable unlike some Genesis games.

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Posted on 03-10-07 06:58 AM (rev. 2 of 03-10-07 06:22 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 13240


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Emulation's pretty decent, especially with my game/joypad... Except the d-pad gets a bit jammed when I press down. I prefer the real thing, however. It's a lot more authentic, has better sound quality, provides a challenge, and to top it all off, provides a nostalgic experience with the older games.

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...and use my gamepad...

I hate you. This is what mine looks like. Two shoulder buttons per side. I had one hell of a time playing the DD F-Zero X courses with this. Would it be possible to buy such a 'pad from Wal-Mart or Target...?

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Acmlm
Posted on 03-10-07 07:17 AM Link | Quote | ID: 13249


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I think I got mine for about $30 over 2 years ago, but it can't quite fit everything for N64 either ... still enough to be playable, but I have to use the second analog control for Start and Z, unless I use it for the C buttons instead

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Posted on 03-10-07 08:03 AM Link | Quote | ID: 13267


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I like Emulation. I can play games that I wanted to play but didn't have enough money to buy it. Play hacks and other things. Unfortunately, I forgot how it was when I played on the real thing since giving the SNES to my cousins.

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Posted on 03-10-07 12:02 PM Link | Quote | ID: 13298


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For emulation, I just use a controller (usually a PS2 controller connected to the PC with an adapter) and have the TV in this room hooked up to my video card so it can display the same thing that's on the monitor here.. Saves me a LOT of trouble messing with filters and adjusting the resolution and what not, and looks and feels pretty much exactly like the real deal.

Only issue is the sound.. and I just tend to use a pair of wireless headphones for that. Though, I use those for like.. everything on the computer anyway, so I might be more accustomed to using them than most would..

Kernal
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I use headphones for most of my computer sound needs as well, because I'm often on the computer when my dad is asleep. When I lived with my parents, they generally went to bed at 21:00 or earlier and I would stay up on the computer. Too bad you couldn't turn off the damn PC speaker (which was still used by a lot of games in the 90's).

Katelyn
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Yeah, the PC speaker is annoying sometimes. Anyway, I use headphones on the computer since I don't want to disturb anyone while I'm playing a game on the computer...

Kernal
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That's one thing I like about DOSbox. The PC speaker output is instead directed through the normal sound card, allowing sound to be muted, volume to be changed, and headphones to be used.

I remember the days when you had to know what brand and model of sound card you had or you either wouldn't hear anything at all or the program would default to really obnoxious internal speaker beeps.

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I like the original a bit more but sometimes I'm to lazy to get off the computer so I use an emulator. I have been using emulators a bit more recently than I usually do though.
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