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Shiryu
Posted on 04-04-07 03:09 PM Link | Quote | ID: 23217


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(this is the 3rd time I tried to write this )

we are on step 4... (or 3.5, the previous step was 3 anyways) someone is almost right, just missing 2 parts.

step 4... missing 2 parts...

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Gzila
Posted on 04-04-07 08:48 PM (rev. 2 of 04-04-07 08:57 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 23268


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"I am Error" is a person in Zelda II, and Zelda's picture is official art from The Minish Cap.
After talking to someone Error gives you information that "South of Kings Tomb in Mido is a Tunnel".
Mido is the Kokiri who blocks your way to the Great Deku Tree in Ocarina of Time.

The Deku tree and his children reappear in The Wind Waker, but are now called Koroks. The Deku Tree explains this in this quote:
"These are the Koroks-the spirits of the forest. Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks took
on human forms, but when they came to live on the sea, they took these shapes. Now they fear people... but to me, they will ever be my cherished little children."

It also happens in the Wind Waker they hold a festival every year. Deku tree also explains this:
"As it happens, you have come just in time for a ceremony that the
Koroks hold but once ever year."

In the Minish Cap the Picori are now the children of the forest, and in Hyrule they hold the Picori festival once a year. This is where the picture is connected, because its in this festival that Zelda wins that shield for Link in a contest!


Sadly enough, my deductions weren't even right! *laughs maniacly*

FirePhoenix0
Posted on 04-04-07 09:49 PM Link | Quote | ID: 23284


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Posted by okibi
Also, forgot to mention something.

Regarding sharing hints and steps...

Feel free!

But, do you really want to help other people win?

I know that whoever wins will probably share the rom, but I'd like to know that I won it, not I couldn't figure it out but was given it. Guess that's just me.

NOTE: No, there is no hint to step 4 in this post... or is there?

There's something going on with this quote. The wording and paragraph breaks are unlike okibi's other posts. Also:
Posted by okibi
NOTE: No, there is no hint to step 4 in this post... or is there?

He uses a double negative in here. I'm pretty sure that by saying "No, there is no hint," that means that there is one. I think we need to look at this thing closer. I immediately tried the first letter of each paragraph:

A
R
F
B
I
N

Means nothing to me. Maybe if it's rearranged...

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Keitaro
Posted on 04-04-07 10:26 PM Link | Quote | ID: 23303


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..then it spells BARF IN.

And link's tunic is green.

Which is the color of barf.

OH GOD I'M GETTING CLOSER GUYS

Skreeny
Posted on 04-04-07 11:14 PM Link | Quote | ID: 23313


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Posted by FirePhoenix0
Posted by okibi
NOTE: No, there is no hint to step 4 in this post... or is there?

He uses a double negative in here. I'm pretty sure that by saying "No, there is no hint," that means that there is one.
That's... not a double negative. It's the exact same construction as "No, there's not a hint here... or is there?" just using "no" instead of "not a". And "there is" rather than a contraction.

Gzila
Posted on 04-05-07 12:30 AM Link | Quote | ID: 23348


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I'm thinking part of the hint Okibi gave in his comments involves the fact that Link didn't win the shield at the festival, rather it was given to him by Zelda.

Shiryu
Posted on 04-05-07 02:53 AM Link | Quote | ID: 23422


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Posted by Gzila
I'm thinking part of the hint Okibi gave in his comments involves the fact that Link didn't win the shield at the festival, rather it was given to him by Zelda.

That would be the relation with his post, which talked about giving the rom to others.

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Drag
Posted on 04-05-07 03:54 AM Link | Quote | ID: 23460


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But then how does Error fit in to this?

Was it an error that Zelda gave Link the shield?

Does Error give Link something in Zelda 2? (I wouldn't know, I haven't really played the game)

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Xkeeper
Posted on 04-05-07 04:05 AM Link | Quote | ID: 23463


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Meeting Error allows his friend across the map to build/fix the bridge.

Yeah, we're all lst.

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Dwedit
Posted on 04-05-07 05:30 AM Link | Quote | ID: 23498


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That's BAGU, not ERROR!

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Xkeeper
Posted on 04-05-07 06:38 AM Link | Quote | ID: 23509


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Posted by Dwedit
That's BAGU, not ERROR!
...

I thought one of the asked if you had met Error yet, and if so, did something.

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Dwedit
Posted on 04-05-07 08:55 AM Link | Quote | ID: 23542


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Someone in a town (Nabooru?) says "Ask Error in Ruto about the palace". It does not involve Bagu or any bridges.

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Krisan Thyme
Posted on 04-05-07 10:21 AM (rev. 2 of 04-05-07 10:22 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 23604


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Posted by okibi
To be completely honest, this step isn't hard, just a test to see who follows instructions.

I mean no offense, but seriously.. you're using some very obscure references and a bit of nonsensical logic here with your contest. I know I'm not the only one here who thinks so either, so I really don't understand how you can say that any part of this goose chase isn't hard or that it is just a matter of following instructions..

The whole thing is setup in such a way that almost nobody other than you could ever complete it.. It just doesn't follow a sensible path of logic well enough to even be fair. (I have to ask, really, how the hell did you expect people to go from the fake zipped ROM to itsafake.php? How? The contest page, the zip file, and its contents hinted at nothing like this.. and if the only reason anyone ever got to step 2 was because you gave them a "hint" outside of the face value the contest has.. then your contest is indeed horribly broken.)

This isn't meant as a flame, and I don't really care about the ROM either, this is just me criticizing what you've done here a bit..

okibi
Posted on 04-05-07 02:42 PM Link | Quote | ID: 23638


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If I'm the only one who could possibly solve this riddle, how is it that you guys/gals are on step 4? If I REALLY didn't want anyone to solve it, why would I site on two different forums NOT AT ALL RELATED TO MY SITE and give out hints?

That sure makes sense...

Anyways, this step IS NOT HARD! Simply follow the instructions. What have you been instructed to do in step 4?

I do appreciate you trying to make a connection with the two. Makes things interesting!

Adamant
Posted on 04-05-07 03:35 PM Link | Quote | ID: 23647


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Posted by okibi
If I'm the only one who could possibly solve this riddle, how is it that you guys/gals are on step 4?


Because you're giving us the answers. No one would've thought of going to ratedo.com/threeeyerock until you solved the "riddle" for us, telling us that the answer was the name of the 6th palace in Zelda 2.

okibi
Posted on 04-05-07 05:04 PM Link | Quote | ID: 23661


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Adamant, that just got you one step closer to step 6 and you don't even know it!

By the way, someone from here just figured out step 4...

Drag
Posted on 04-05-07 11:10 PM Link | Quote | ID: 23770


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Anyway, the instructions for this step are to e-mail okibi with the information, and then he'll reply with the next step. So I think it's about time to shoot off some mails.

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Gzila
Posted on 04-06-07 03:12 AM (rev. 2 of 04-06-07 05:22 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 23870


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Drag is on the right track This step actually isn't that hard.

And before I forget, have a Happy 19th birthday, XKeeper!

Edit: I don't like to spoil things, but I'd also like to keep things moving. Basically I gave a detailed description behind the quote and Zelda, and that was good enough.

Now let's get more people working on step 5! It seems easy at first, but with this contest, everything is more then it seems

Aside from the extra complications, its my favorite step so far.

roxahris
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Hmm...
I thought that was of...
...no, I doubt it.
Err... I mean... isnt that picture of Zelda with the shield similar to... then I realised it wasnt the Mirror Shield...
Speaking of WW, "Hero of Winds"?
And, Mido guards the Forest Temple... seven years later.
Also, apologies to okibi, whom I sent the wrong email to...


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Krisan Thyme
Posted on 04-06-07 12:27 PM (rev. 3 of 04-06-07 12:30 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 24007


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Posted by okibi
If I'm the only one who could possibly solve this riddle, how is it that you guys/gals are on step 4? If I REALLY didn't want anyone to solve it, why would I site on two different forums NOT AT ALL RELATED TO MY SITE and give out hints?

That sure makes sense...

Anyways, this step IS NOT HARD! Simply follow the instructions. What have you been instructed to do in step 4?

I do appreciate you trying to make a connection with the two. Makes things interesting!

I didn't say you didn't want people to solve it.. I just said it is poorly constructed. ^_~
Seriously man, I don't mean any offense, I just don't find some of this stuff as logical.. The initial thing to getting to step two (the fake ROM) was just plain dumb, not only did it give the impression to many people that the whole thing was a sham.. but it lowered the reputation of your site several notches to those who have long since abandoned you and this contest. (And no, you can't really go and say "their loss" on this one, because you set it up so poorly that you can't blame them for it.)

Really though.. Like I (and Adamant in followup) have said.. If you HAVE to give a hint in order to nudge people toward a solution, something is very broken.. It doesn't help that your hints are very direct too.. Like the one you gave in this thread earlier, you practically came right out and said the answer. If you don't see the problem here that I'm trying to point out to you.. well, I don't suppose you ever will. But like I asked earlier, how DID you expect anyone to get to step two? Fake rom in a zipfile and no indication that someone had to enter a webpage address? Instinct will send people flaming off at you or ignoring the whole thing entirely.. Only the very naive would email you politely asking what was up with that.. and those aren't likely the types that could solve this (in my opinion) illogical riddle chase you've presented here. Plus, again, if you HAVE to hint (or practically tell someone) what to do next, something isn't working right..

Difficult problems are fine, and I'm all for that. I love tricky riddles and what not.. it is just, nothing here is following a sensible enough path.. I -cannot- solve this without coming back to you and asking for more information constantly, no one else can either I'm sure, and at that point it isn't a contest anyway, just a test of patience..
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