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Adamant

Posted on 06-19-07 03:39 AM

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Posted by TheGreatGuy
I have doubts, mainly because since Melee, FE games have been released in America, and they might want to go with someone from a game everyone has.

More people own Melee than any given FE game, I believe.

Seriously, there's no point in kicking out Marth and adding Eliwood just because he's in a game that was released in the US. Them going with Fire Emblem characters in the first place is testament to that (plus, no one in Europe had a clue who the hell Ness was before SSB was released either, and you don't see us complaining about how he should be left out of the series)

TheGreatGuy

Posted on 06-19-07 03:40 AM

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I'm not saying that he should be left out, I'm saying he might be left out, which would be bad. I am on your side here, though I have doubts that Nintendo is too.

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Posted on 06-19-07 03:40 AM

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Fire Emblem IV recently came out on the Virtual Console, come on Sigurd/Celice!

Squash Monster

Posted on 06-19-07 05:15 AM

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Pff. Ditch Roy and replace him with Lyndis. She's way cooler than Eliwood. Also: am I the only one that's disappointed in Link's Final Smash? It should totally be Bombos. ____________________

FirePhoenix0

Posted on 06-19-07 05:45 AM

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I'm hoping they keep Marth and Ganondorf. They are my next best characters. THough even I want Ganondorf to have a moveset overhaul. C'mon Nintendo! Allow him to use his kick-ass sword!

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Tanks

Posted on 06-19-07 05:46 AM

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Posted by Squash Monster
Pff. Ditch Roy and replace him with Lyndis. She's way cooler than Eliwood.

Also: am I the only one that's disappointed in Link's Final Smash? It should totally be Bombos.

I don't know what it is... but I'm disappointed in it too... I have no idea why though =/ It's cool and all but I think it could have been cooler in some way.

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NightKev

Posted on 06-19-07 06:04 AM

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They should use the main character from the most recent FE game (Ike I believe). And then make him play like Marth

Three guesses as to why

*Keep*

Mario - Obviously
Luigi - He played quite differently from Mario so if the same happens again keep
Peach - Either Peach was overpowered in SSBM or I'm crazy.
Captain Falcon
Ganondorf - They better change his moveset to be different from C.Falc's
Fox - Obviously
Ness
Ice Climbers - Just need a little bit of improvement
Kirby - Obviously
Samus - Obv..."duh"
Zelda
Link - Duh
Pikachu - meh
Marth - Either keep Marth or make him Ike, as long as he plays mostly the same

*Toss*

Dr. Mario - Clone
Falco - Clone
Young Link - Clone
Pichu - Crappy clone
Jigglypuff - blech
Mewtwo - blech
Game&Watch - ohgodthehorror
Roy - Eh, sort of a clone...

*???*

Bowser - He sucked. Unless they improve him they should scrap him.
Yoshi - Sucked. Only two jumps?

Needs major improvement
Donkey Kong - Eh didn't really like him but if they improve him keep.
Sheik - Eh I'm not sure what should be done with Sheik, probably toss though

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Stark

Posted on 06-19-07 06:08 AM (rev. 2 of 06-19-07 06:08 AM)

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Last I heard, it was confirmed that all people in Melee are Brawl.

Also, anyone who suggests Mewtwo out is insane. Mewtwo's great with items, and not everyone plays without them. (Competitively, sure, but Melee never exploded when you didn't wavedash when it would've helped.)

NightKev is insane in many ways.

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NightKev

Posted on 06-19-07 06:35 AM

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Posted by Alastor
Last I heard, it was confirmed that all people in Melee are Brawl.

Also, anyone who suggests Mewtwo out is insane. Mewtwo's great with items, and not everyone plays without them. (Competitively, sure, but Melee never exploded when you didn't wavedash when it would've helped.)

NightKev is insane in many ways.

So which (other than Mewtwo) characters do you suggest be put into different categories (and why)?

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Stark

Posted on 06-19-07 07:17 AM (rev. 2 of 06-19-07 07:18 AM)

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I would put everything into the keep category, because it makes no sense to get rid of any of them. Every character has its fans; getting rid of some would serve only to annoy people.

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NightKev

Posted on 06-19-07 08:04 AM

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Posted by Alastor
I would put everything into the keep category, because it makes no sense to get rid of any of them. Every character has its fans; getting rid of some would serve only to annoy people.

That's not a very good reason

Especially for some of the godawful characters that don't deserve to exist.
Also, since there are obviously people that DON'T like these characters, aren't people still getting annoyed?

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Stark

Posted on 06-19-07 08:11 AM

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Don't like it? Don't use it. It's just that simple.

Pikachu is completely useless in Pokemon, but no one's saying get rid of it for the next game.

Also, godawful characters? That's just your opinion.

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NightKev

Posted on 06-19-07 08:14 AM

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Posted by Alastor
Don't like it? Don't use it. It's just that simple.

Pikachu is completely useless in Pokemon, but no one's saying get rid of it for the next game.

Also, godawful characters? That's just your opinion.

You're saying, essentially "Keep them all because if you remove one someone somewhere will complain."
Well, the same could go for removing them: "Remove them all because if you keep one someone somewhere will complain."
Which basically means your argument for keeping them is rather invalid.

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Ailure

Posted on 06-19-07 08:15 AM

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Posted by Koitenshin -∞
I guess we'll never see Bunny Link. *is shot*

Doing it in this time and age would be a risky move.

Besides the bunny link was competly defenceless as I recall...

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Stark

Posted on 06-19-07 08:46 AM

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Posted by NightKev
You're saying, essentially "Keep them all because if you remove one someone somewhere will complain."
Well, the same could go for removing them: "Remove them all because if you keep one someone somewhere will complain."
Which basically means your argument for keeping them is rather invalid.

Except in my scenario, everyone gets to play with who they want to play with, while in your scenario, everyone is unhappy. I'm... I'm afraid logic doesn't work that way. Sorry.

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Koitenshin -∞

Posted on 06-19-07 08:53 AM

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Posted by Ailure
Posted by Koitenshin -∞
I guess we'll never see Bunny Link. *is shot*
Doing it in this time and age would be a risky move.

Besides the bunny link was competly defenceless as I recall...

Then he'd be just like Sandbag.

Also if LTTP ever gets released on the Virtual Console (don't have that system so not sure if it already has) many people would understand.

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Skreeny

Posted on 06-19-07 09:09 AM (rev. 2 of 06-19-07 09:26 AM)

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Posted by NightKev
Well, the same could go for removing them: "Remove them all because if you keep one someone somewhere will complain."

"Hi, I got called on a crappy argument so I'm going to ascribe a fake belief to my opponent, then take the inverse and mock it." Please don't.

Posted by Ailure
Besides the bunny link was competly defenceless as I recall...

You recall correctly.

Koitenshin: Yes, of course. People would understand putting in a completely useless character based on a 5-minute segment of a decade-old game. Although I wouldn't complain if one of Link's alternate costumes was bunny, assuming it actually kept all the normal moves

Today's update: Pikachu's Final Smash! Makes me wonder about what kind of effect other characters would have; we already have "hit everyone onscreen", "hit one opponent for MASSIVE DAMAGE" and now we have "zip around the screen hurting people". What next?

Shadic

Posted on 06-19-07 09:32 AM

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Damn you Skreeny! I was gonna post this!

Pikachu in Action.

I'm loving these new screenshots, though.

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Sinfjotle

Posted on 06-19-07 01:57 PM

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Ha, Volt Tackle. So it's like PK Thunder, just much more powerful.

The Red Snifit

Posted on 06-19-07 03:15 PM

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Posted by Sinfjotle
So it's like PK Thunder, just much more powerful.

Minus the fact that when Ness uses PK Thunder, he doesn't move at all. (Unless he hits himself.)

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