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CyclopsCaveman |
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Level: 59 Posts: 194/755 EXP: 1601641 Next: 71487 Since: 01-02-08 Last post: 4494 days Last view: 3307 days |
I think a main supporting factor in why mmost romhacking communities are so stagnant about within their userbase is that there's not a high enough level of support. If I want to, say, run an editor that only works in windows, I have to figure out something I don't understand how to do to do it, and waste tons of time, and end up being frustrated for the whole thing, eventually finding out it was in vain anyway because the editor doesn't fucking work anyway.
I think a main idea that should be built into the ROM Hackiong Community is it being free and open source material, so that everything can be cross platform and easy to use. ____________________ havin' a ball |
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The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 124 Posts: 2371/4196 EXP: 21535110 Next: 301491 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 472 days Last view: 85 days |
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CyclopsCaveman |
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Level: 59 Posts: 195/755 EXP: 1601641 Next: 71487 Since: 01-02-08 Last post: 4494 days Last view: 3307 days |
And that's where the problems do arise. If nobody can read the code, why port it?
Although it would be nice to have more than one editor for one game on one platfor for os x, I think the most value that lays within macs is the playtesting ability, which would probably be even better in linux. ____________________ havin' a ball |
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Yellow Stalfos Level: 71 Posts: 769/1145 EXP: 3036108 Next: 131006 Since: 07-06-07 From: Québec Last post: 3628 days Last view: 2880 days |
I said many times that anyone who wants to port my apps just need to ask, so I'm not concerned. I won't reach for people to give away my code. Ask and you shall receive. That's it. Look into ROMHacking.net's database and compare the % of apps for Mac OS X and Windows. The comparison is ridicule. With so many Windows programmers out there, it's mostly a matter of time and motivation...
It's true that there are apps that work awkwardly and suffer from incompatibilities, but anyone who whines about bad software should at least program one and see the work involved. Again, I'm not that concerned since I consider my apps pretty good and easy to use. And don't forget that sometimes, it's not a lack of programming skill but simply a lack of information about the ROM itself. You want to change enemy AI at will using a fancy graphics UI editor? That's just a bonus. You could have nothing and do it all in hex. Go for it, disassemble the ROM and find that variable. It's not that trivial... If the programmer doesn't have the data for this or that, of course the editor can't have any feature involving this or that, it's obvious. Until then, if you can't program, you can't do much except wait for an eventual next version of the app. Or try to be useful and find data yourself. You don't need to be a programmer to find data. Yet, you need some understanding of basic elements of ROM hacking, that is hex, byte order, addresses, tables, etc... And as far as I go with programming, I consider that the most difficult part is data offsets. If I have sufficient data and I am pretty sure of the locations and byte formats, the rest is fairly easy. Again, it always depends of the complexity of the game. There's also expansion that is not that trivial, and is never the same between games. You have to manage unused space in the ROM. You have to understand how the data is processed during gameplay to figure how to expand (or shrink) the data tables without overflowing or overwriting essential data... |
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Giant Koopa [PREFSTRING:wonderful bounciness] Level: 74 Posts: 851/1292 EXP: 3634093 Next: 19451 Since: 07-23-07 From: Michicola Last post: 4843 days Last view: 4806 days |
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CyclopsCaveman |
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Level: 59 Posts: 196/755 EXP: 1601641 Next: 71487 Since: 01-02-08 Last post: 4494 days Last view: 3307 days |
Boing, it's not really that I'm saying that they /should be/, it's just that I'm pointing out a flaw I see in the way things are done. I don't really care nor mind that I can or can't romhack anymore, I've passed that phase. I'd rather people that care about this do something about than people that don't care about it do something about it. ____________________ havin' a ball |
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Boomboom Level: 90 Posts: 768/1975 EXP: 6954051 Next: 234558 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 3581 days Last view: 3205 days |
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