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PU206C |
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Red Goomba Level: 16 Posts: 11/41 EXP: 18930 Next: 1326 Since: 02-07-10 Last post: 4814 days Last view: 3420 days |
grinding is boring as long as battle system is turn by turn/turn based, I just hate grinding in mario rpgs(well m&l BIS is only mario rpg where there is point for grinding, |
Waddler-D |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 59/71 EXP: 44683 Next: 5260 Since: 01-24-09 Last post: 4821 days Last view: 4788 days |
Posted by Duffman Well, the hack isn't meant to be easy sadly. This hack is meant for people that pretty much ace the original game. Good strategy, having smarts and timing is certainly very important this time around and blocking as many attacks as you can is crucial. Grinding and stats isn't exactly gonna be the saving grace this time around, as the bosses will be the ones to deal out the biggest EXP gains. There's also level up choices, they become a bit more important too. For instance, if physical attacks are giving you trouble, boost your Physical Defense when you level up. Major bosses are definitely gonna be the toughest battles in the game, but Mack is the easiest of the bunch and they are certainly possible at normal levels with good strategy and timing. If something seems overwhelming at first, usually the Defend option can be a lifesaver a lot of the time but also all the bosses have their gimmicks that makes them easier to beat. However, I will lessen the rock attack's frequency a bit. ____________________ AIM: WaddlerD 85 |
Duffman |
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Newcomer Level: 4 Posts: 2/2 EXP: 203 Next: 76 Since: 03-20-10 Last post: 5155 days Last view: 5155 days |
Posted by Waddler-D I understand blocking attacks are crucial, but if they're that crucial to survive, and the window to block them is damn near an instant, it gets overly frustrating. And if leveling and stats are not the way to go, why say that if a boss is giving you trouble, you should level up? If a boss is taking you out in just 2-3 turns (maybe more if you're tossing Pick Me Ups trying to survive), it's going to take quite a while to get your stats up because the enemies give so little EXP. And if they're using all magic attacks, blocking is out of the question entirely. And the chance to block, as I said, is a very small window, so it makes it even harder to survive. Yes, you wanted to make this hack hard. But there is such a thing as too hard; it sucks fighting against a simple enemy and see him hit you for 30+ damage simply because you couldn't block in the half a second time frame. |
MrWeirdGuy |
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Newcomer Level: 7 Posts: 6/6 EXP: 1095 Next: 353 Since: 02-14-09 Last post: 5155 days Last view: 4948 days |
Yeah, I have to agree. There's a big difference between hard and unfair. |
Waddler-D |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 60/71 EXP: 44683 Next: 5260 Since: 01-24-09 Last post: 4821 days Last view: 4788 days |
Posted by Duffman Huh? I meant like when you level up, you do have the options of choosing bonuses and the stats can tip things in your favor. And I doubt the window to block is near an instant. Blocking it perfectly would be that case. I left the timing to shrug off half the damage the same. I've made sure that the majority of enemies have some weakness or something about them to exploit, so it's not like the enemies are invincible creatures that can and will murder you. For instance, the Shysters in Mushroom Kingdom. One good Fire Orb special pretty much murders them in one shot. Bosses have their weaknesses as well, but they're gonna try their best to overshadow them with their own tactics. This hack is just meant for people that just want a challenge or something new with this classic RPG. Hell, some older games in mainstream RPG series (Dragon Quest and Mother are good examples...), some recent PS2 RPGs like Shin Megami Tensei and remakes of certain RPGs like FFIV DS certainly seem a bit unfair, if not more unfair than this one. The fact that Mario and company HAVE the ability to nullify or lessen the damage as opposed to taking the full brunt of it. I've try to make it so that spells aren't gonna doing too much more damage to what the player is blocking physically. Besides, you kind of have to do this in the Mario & Luigi games to survive some battles... I would honestly hope that the player does get around the idea of level grinding when playing through this game and sticks to their skills, wits and the ability to figure out their enemies to progress... I'm not a fan of level grinding either and there isn't exactly just one strategy to beat each boss of course... I know the hack's not made for everyone. But I can definitely say it's far from unfair. ____________________ AIM: WaddlerD 85 |
Steyiak |
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Newcomer Level: 7 Posts: 6/7 EXP: 1342 Next: 106 Since: 12-13-09 Last post: 5154 days Last view: 5044 days |
Many people like hard hacks. Why hacks like Kaizo Mario, Metroid Impossible etc would be created? Maybe your problem is that this is the only serious hack for SMRPG created at this point (correct me if I am wrong) and its difficulty is too high for you to enjoy it but since the creator of this hack made it this way, the only thing you can do is wait for another hack... |
hypershadic88 |
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Red Paragoomba Level: 19 Posts: 44/58 EXP: 32191 Next: 3586 Since: 10-19-09 Last post: 4611 days Last view: 4625 days |
I personally really enjoyed this hack, the only thing that offset me were not the fault of the hack itself, the first time I got seriously into it it froze at the collection for the star you get after defeating jonathan jones(I probably misspelt that horribly). Anyways the second time around(please note that I was playing it on my Wii this time.)I got to the Axem rangers, needless to say they wiped the floor with me So I decided to take a break and guess what? the next day all my saves were gone. Seeing as how the final release seems to be out I may go for it again, third times the charm eh? A lot of people won't like the increased difficulty but at the same time others will so I guess it's just a matter of personal preference, however there is no denying that a lot of hard work and dedication went into this.
So I say kudos to you Waddler-D. |
Steyiak |
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Newcomer Level: 7 Posts: 7/7 EXP: 1342 Next: 106 Since: 12-13-09 Last post: 5154 days Last view: 5044 days |
Posted by hypershadic88 This is a glitch of the emulator. To fix it you must play this game with ZNES 1.41 (I think this version fixes other emulator glitches in this game) |
TAxxOUTBR3AKxx |
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Newcomer Level: 3 Posts: 1/1 EXP: 71 Next: 57 Since: 03-25-10 Last post: 5153 days Last view: 5134 days |
Posted by SteyiakPosted by hypershadic88 Save a state before the star is collected, then force load the rom as PAL and reload your save state. It won't freeze. You also have to do it when the Axem Rangers use the Breaker Beam and sometimes when riding the cloud on the overworld from Nimbus Land to Bowser's Castle. Just an FYI in case you don't wanna use Zsnes 1.41. |
Ryoka |
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Newcomer Level: 3 Posts: 1/1 EXP: 71 Next: 57 Since: 04-05-10 Last post: 5140 days Last view: 2390 days |
I gave a Shy Ranger Pure Water, and it killed one of the piranha plants with Phazer, then ran away. When the other plant went to attack though it doesn't reach the party, and effectively locks up the game. |
Waddler-D |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 61/71 EXP: 44683 Next: 5260 Since: 01-24-09 Last post: 4821 days Last view: 4788 days |
Posted by Ryoka Thanks for letting me know about it. I do plan to release another version in the future to really get rid of every plausible bug there is, as well as balance things even more. Though, for the most part, there won't be too many lock-up battles. ____________________ AIM: WaddlerD 85 |
al2fenrir |
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Panser Level: 41 Posts: 159/333 EXP: 444051 Next: 36094 Since: 09-20-09 Last post: 4965 days Last view: 4971 days |
BUGS found: (Revolution v.2.0)
1. The dialogue "Do you know how to use items..." at Mario's pad is screwed. It now says "Do you know how to usePeach..." 2. Battle Dialogue - Goomba Training says "No Physical attack" instead of "They're on the menu", and when Toad rush back to say "Read about em' OK", he now says " ". I'll update you whenever I found more. ____________________ SUPER MARIO RPG EXPANSION MY PERSONAL BLOG Got any SMRPG Hacking related question? astralgamma.nursing-resource.com |
Waddler-D |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 63/71 EXP: 44683 Next: 5260 Since: 01-24-09 Last post: 4821 days Last view: 4788 days |
Posted by al2fenrir Did you patch it to a rom with no header? ____________________ AIM: WaddlerD 85 |
al2fenrir |
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Panser Level: 41 Posts: 160/333 EXP: 444051 Next: 36094 Since: 09-20-09 Last post: 4965 days Last view: 4971 days |
I patch an unmodified ROM. ____________________ SUPER MARIO RPG EXPANSION MY PERSONAL BLOG Got any SMRPG Hacking related question? astralgamma.nursing-resource.com |
Waddler-D |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 64/71 EXP: 44683 Next: 5260 Since: 01-24-09 Last post: 4821 days Last view: 4788 days |
Posted by al2fenrir Well, mainly the issue is... If the ROM has a blank 200-byte header, that will affect the patching process and make the ROM screwy. Some SMRPG roms might have a header which just has the first 200 bytes "00" ____________________ AIM: WaddlerD 85 |
Waddler-D |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 65/71 EXP: 44683 Next: 5260 Since: 01-24-09 Last post: 4821 days Last view: 4788 days |
Unfortunately, I stumbled upon two bugs... However, I was planning to release one final version and probably gonna be this weekend, most likely Sunday. ____________________ AIM: WaddlerD 85 |
Waddler-D |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 66/71 EXP: 44683 Next: 5260 Since: 01-24-09 Last post: 4821 days Last view: 4788 days |
Things are looking good with testing, I may have a release of the hack tomorrow! ____________________ AIM: WaddlerD 85 |
sonic7978 |
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Newcomer Level: 3 Posts: 1/1 EXP: 71 Next: 57 Since: 05-11-10 From: Canada Last post: 5107 days Last view: 5073 days |
yo yo what's up waddle I need to know how do I have get to play super mario rpg revolution? |
Waddler-D |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 67/71 EXP: 44683 Next: 5260 Since: 01-24-09 Last post: 4821 days Last view: 4788 days |
Posted by sonic7978 I suggest checking out Zophar's Domain's Patch Utilities. Available here are programs that will make patching the ROM easy and user-friendly. ____________________ AIM: WaddlerD 85 |
Ingus81 |
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Micro-Goomba The FAQ is your Mantra!! Level: 11 Posts: 5/16 EXP: 4567 Next: 1418 Since: 05-25-10 Last post: 5091 days Last view: 5090 days |
Ohh..over Level 30? Awesome! Me want to download! |
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