Points of Required Attention™
Please chime in on a proposed restructuring of the ROM hacking sections.
Views: 88,493,780
Main | FAQ | Uploader | IRC chat | Radio | Memberlist | Active users | Latest posts | Calendar | Stats | Online users | Search 04-27-24 07:33 PM
Guest: Register | Login

0 users currently in Super Mario RPG Hacking | 3 guests

Main - Super Mario RPG Hacking - SMRPG:The Bob-omb Mafia - Lazy Shell Flagship Hack New thread | New reply

Pages: 1 2

What do you think about the The Bob-omb Mafia?
Shows the editor off really well!
It's alright, I had fun with it.
Makes me want to create a masterpiece!
I haven't played SMRPG, but I might now!
I didn't like it... Mostly because--
I don't care, gimme the editor.
Multiple voting is not allowed. Changing your vote is allowed. 14 users have voted so far.

Omega45889
Posted on 01-23-09 07:36 AM (rev. 2 of 01-23-09 04:54 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 99262


Red Paratroopa
Level: 31

Posts: 131/178
EXP: 183102
Next: 2261

Since: 01-18-08

Last post: 5484 days
Last view: 4791 days
SMRPG: The Bob-omb Mafia

Authors: giangurgolo and Omega
Date: January 22, 2009
Size: 992 KB

Description:
Bowser's last deal with the so-called Bob-omb Mafia has left him empty-handed: the four koopa shells that belong to him still remain in the mafia's hands. Bowser has kidnapped the princess and is holding her for a ransom--it's Mario's task to fulfill the mafia's end of the bargain and acquire Bowser's shells to rescue the princess.

Screenshots:



Download available on the Cirrus Patch server via LazyShell

Links:
LazyShell Download
Cirrus Download Instructions
Website

A Note from the Authors:
This hack was created using only Lazy Shell as a demonstration of the ability and scope of the editor. Enjoy it, learn from it, and find the motivation and creativity to give back to the community.

Have fun!

blackhole89
Posted on 01-23-09 08:43 PM (rev. 2 of 01-23-09 08:44 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 99278


The Guardian
Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows!
Level: 124

Posts: 2211/4196
EXP: 21535275
Next: 301326

Since: 02-19-07
From: Ithaca, NY, US

Last post: 472 days
Last view: 85 days



Apart from several layering mistakes (like jumping behind houses bringing you in front of the roofs), one more notable bug I've run into is that the Harlequin's "boost to the next level" renders me immobile once I am there. That, together with a black tile on that map, seems to be reproduceable.

Although the lack of balance/difficulty curve would make assessment of the hack on a gameplay basis difficult, I think this is quite impressive as a demonstration of what the editor can do.

____________________



Sukasa
Posted on 01-23-09 09:40 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99280


Red Birdo
Level: 92

Posts: 1484/2112
EXP: 7690198
Next: 66739

Since: 02-19-07

Last post: 4449 days
Last view: 3221 days
Just use the Radishes, they can be easily beaten if you have a full flower gauge with a jump or two, and you level up crazily fast with them.

blackhole89
Posted on 01-23-09 09:48 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99281


The Guardian
Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows!
Level: 124

Posts: 2212/4196
EXP: 21535275
Next: 301326

Since: 02-19-07
From: Ithaca, NY, US

Last post: 472 days
Last view: 85 days



I know, and that is part of the problem. There is a lack of correlation between how difficult and how rewarding things are.

____________________



giangurgolo
Posted on 01-23-09 10:05 PM (rev. 2 of 01-23-09 11:46 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 99282


Level: 34

Posts: 13/219
EXP: 249569
Next: 4082

Since: 02-01-08

Last post: 3248 days
Last view: 3248 days
(link removed, still some bugs with the hack)

One reason for some of imbalanced gameplay is due to the relative length of the hack, which only consists of three or four areas. I figured I'd give the player the opportunity to level up fast with easier monsters to fight the harder bosses since the length of the hack doesn't allow enough time to level up to a high level.

That might seems amateurish or lazy, because it probably is.

KP9000
Posted on 01-23-09 11:51 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99291


Boomboom

Level: 90

Posts: 679/1975
EXP: 6954104
Next: 234505

Since: 02-19-07

Last post: 3581 days
Last view: 3205 days


giangurgolo: I've run into several bugs that I can reproduce and document if you like.

Also, if you're having trouble with the radishes at first, check out one of the houses. There might be something in there that can help you out.

As for the hack, I love it. You really gotta look at it as this: It's the first hack of this game with its own designated editor. Square probably had to put in some serious time to work with all the layering in the levels, scripting, etc.. Now, I've put some time into this editor myself, and it isn't a picnic. It's not the editor, it's the game. It took me a while to even get something that *resembles* a level. What these guys did is a shitload of work. Fantastic amount of work. There are bound to be a few bugs, but its function in the end is to show off the abilities of the editor and the aspects of the game it can edit. Not how well one can avoid bugs, write a story, design a game.

Keep this in mind when you start your own hack.

Once again, completely awesome, and I haven't even completed it yet.

____________________

Omega45889
Posted on 01-24-09 12:54 AM Link | Quote | ID: 99299


Red Paratroopa
Level: 31

Posts: 135/178
EXP: 183102
Next: 2261

Since: 01-18-08

Last post: 5484 days
Last view: 4791 days
Thanks KP, we know about the bugs and their being fixed. Should be available again soon.

Raccoon Sam
Posted on 01-24-09 02:15 AM Link | Quote | ID: 99302


Cobrat
Level: 56

Posts: 586/672
EXP: 1380176
Next: 18000

Since: 02-19-07
From: Hi

Last post: 3469 days
Last view: 2700 days
I'm a Mac user and can not run the application. Could you point me to the server they're hosted on so I can snag the IPS straight from there?



____________________


PressAdob
Posted on 01-24-09 03:12 AM (rev. 2 of 01-24-09 03:14 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 99303


Red Goomba
Level: 15

Posts: 4/36
EXP: 16278
Next: 106

Since: 10-09-08

Last post: 3830 days
Last view: 3826 days
I seem to get stuck at the forest boss, the blue one, and can't move after battle, is that being looked at too?

Levesque
Posted on 01-24-09 03:21 AM Link | Quote | ID: 99304


Red Cheep-cheep
Account taken over, please contact admins to reclaim
Level: 34

Posts: 186/217
EXP: 242732
Next: 10919

Since: 07-14-08

Last post: 3031 days
Last view: 3031 days
Posted by Raccoon Sam
I'm a Mac user and can not run the application. Could you point me to the server they're hosted on so I can snag the IPS straight from there?




The Bob-omb Mafia (Lazy Shell Flagship Hack)

Currently the hack is being debugged. Wait a day or two and it should be good.

Omega45889
Posted on 01-25-09 02:22 AM Link | Quote | ID: 99386


Red Paratroopa
Level: 31

Posts: 139/178
EXP: 183102
Next: 2261

Since: 01-18-08

Last post: 5484 days
Last view: 4791 days
The hack has been debugged, and is now up on Cirrus. The direct link posted by Levesque is no longer valid. The reason we are hosting it exclusively on Cirrus is to encourage people to download and start using LazyShell right away. There is a direct link posted in the info section on Cirrus, but we prefer people to at least try LazyShell. PM me if you need a direct link for any reason.

Thanks for being patient with the debugging.

And if I may say so, I just love the atmosphere in The Bob-omb Mafia. Its mostly done by giangurgolo, so I got to play it too .

Enjoy.

PressAdob
Posted on 01-25-09 05:25 AM (rev. 3 of 01-25-09 05:34 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 99404


Red Goomba
Level: 15

Posts: 9/36
EXP: 16278
Next: 106

Since: 10-09-08

Last post: 3830 days
Last view: 3826 days
Edit 2:

Ah, those were just for decoration. Nice work on the hack.

Waddler-D
Posted on 01-25-09 06:32 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99445


Paragoomba
Level: 21

Posts: 3/71
EXP: 44657
Next: 5286

Since: 01-24-09

Last post: 4814 days
Last view: 4781 days
There's another thing I noticed with the hack while checking out the battle scripts. From what I've learned from my experiences, if you want an enemy to do multiple attacks with an enemy, you have to have a "If target is alive" conditional to check if anybody in the player's party is still alive. Otherwise, you're gonna get a buggy situation where Harlequin will end up attacking nothing until it goes to "return script" function.

I think I probably should get a Battle Scripting tutorial up real soon.

____________________
AIM: WaddlerD 85

Levesque
Posted on 01-26-09 01:31 AM Link | Quote | ID: 99469


Red Cheep-cheep
Account taken over, please contact admins to reclaim
Level: 34

Posts: 192/217
EXP: 242732
Next: 10919

Since: 07-14-08

Last post: 3031 days
Last view: 3031 days
Great hack Omefa45889 and Giangurgolo.

Honestly.

It's awesome.

Thumbs up from me, and 99% of the board2 community.

Omega45889
Posted on 01-26-09 04:12 AM Link | Quote | ID: 99480


Red Paratroopa
Level: 31

Posts: 147/178
EXP: 183102
Next: 2261

Since: 01-18-08

Last post: 5484 days
Last view: 4791 days
Posted by Waddler-D
I think I probably should get a Battle Scripting tutorial up real soon.


That would be very handy.

messiaen
Posted on 01-26-09 12:59 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99494


Cheep-cheep
Level: 32

Posts: 115/193
EXP: 204475
Next: 1967

Since: 05-26-08
From: Porto Alegre, Brazil

Last post: 4444 days
Last view: 4772 days
Unless I'm missing something important, there's another way to get stuck in this hack (I'm playing the corrected version).

I defeated the boss after Harlequin (sorry, can't remember its name), got the key to the double door house and grabbed the itens there. Then I paid to be warped to the same boss and defeated it again. Afterwards, I returned to the same boss location (without using a warp though) to gain more experience/coins and he wasn't there. At this point, I'm stuck. I have looked everywhere and haven't found a way to return to the first screens. The game also hasn't saved, so my progress up to here is lost.

Is this a bug or am I missing some way to get out of this?

Phoenix Yoshi
Posted on 01-26-09 04:56 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99504


Red Cheep-cheep
Level: 34

Posts: 213/216
EXP: 251507
Next: 2144

Since: 02-19-07
From: Georgia

Last post: 5567 days
Last view: 5540 days
Also, I have my own bugs to report on this.


1: You can break into the double-door house early. Get in front of the doors, and jump. You stand on an invisible wall. Walk towards the door slowly, you fall. Face the door, run, and you burst in. This lets you break in right from the start!

2: The battle after you get out of the sewers after beating that Belome-like creature (I forget how to spell his name) can be lost right at the start, even if you're wearing the Shy Hood...and losing puts you in an infinite loop. The music starts droning out, but after the screen fades, it comes back in, and that's it. Freezes right then and there. I take it something's supposed to happen at this point instead of you dying? But yeah...

3: Using the Tank Shell, I was able to beat this battle. I was told they had a shell, didn't find it in the house. So... I left through the door. Uh oh! I can't go back in through it, it's still locked! So I went through the sewer. Entering the pipe to the house puts me exactly on top of the warp, so I warp right back. In other words, once you leave the house, you can't get back in. Ever. Well, unless you use codes or something...

Sorry if this stuff is already known.

KDE User X
Posted on 01-26-09 06:42 PM (rev. 2 of 01-26-09 06:45 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 99507


Koopa
Level: 25

Posts: 12/104
EXP: 79374
Next: 10246

Since: 12-26-08
From: Finland

Last post: 5199 days
Last view: 5199 days
Not sure are these already said but..

1. Get game over screen and music dont play, win battle and battle music plays on that area, but music glith will fix when going to another area(somtimes)

2. Game keeps crashing/freesing on Snes 9X v1.43+ v12 (beta8), for example, when you get cut-scene with Yul(on first post, screen 1), push A tuu early and cut-scene freezez, only L+R+Str+Sel helps. Also, at battle with yul + two big bob-omb and Vadim, die before Vadim says "I'm gonna cleave ya!", and Vadim moves glithy left and game freezez, also theres another glith with that battle, die after Vadmin says "i'm gonna..." and screen goes black, wait moment and when you push B, you can hear marios jumping sound, you cant do anything else.

3.Figth that blue thing at 2nd screenshot and win battle, those two toads join you and game locks/freezez and you cant move..

4.figth that thing at 4th screenshot and youll get that bonus area, but game locks/you cant move

5.you'll need level-up foever to win that Vadmin battle, or you die at when that (vim?) uses instant-kill attack, so you have to kill every possible enemy and then figth wiggers to get marios hp to around 107, or simply use save-state editor.

6. M/w/g allow sucks wihtout armor, and I cant find one anywhere

7. magickoopas last 500-coin warp locks game, even when you have over 500 coins or nothing :\

EDIT: I think I'm using older version of this hack, not sure

____________________


PressAdob
Posted on 01-26-09 08:39 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99518


Red Goomba
Level: 15

Posts: 12/36
EXP: 16278
Next: 106

Since: 10-09-08

Last post: 3830 days
Last view: 3826 days
You may have an old version.

You alsoshould help NPC's more! they can give you items that can keep you still alive

DiscoPeach
Posted on 01-27-09 05:08 AM Link | Quote | ID: 99564


Octoballoon
Level: 31

Posts: 101/175
EXP: 177165
Next: 8198

Since: 04-15-08
From: Puerto Rico

Last post: 4555 days
Last view: 4536 days
Posted by giangurgolo
(link removed, still some bugs with the hack)

One reason for some of imbalanced gameplay is due to the relative length of the hack, which only consists of three or four areas. I figured I'd give the player the opportunity to level up fast with easier monsters to fight the harder bosses since the length of the hack doesn't allow enough time to level up to a high level.

That might seems amateurish or lazy, because it probably is.


Well, the editor is called Lazy Shell

____________________
MathOnNapkins' Zelda 3 (ALttP) Hacking Forum on Arc-Nova: http://arc-nova.org/forum/index.php?board=7.0
Pages: 1 2


Main - Super Mario RPG Hacking - SMRPG:The Bob-omb Mafia - Lazy Shell Flagship Hack New thread | New reply

Acmlmboard 2.1+4δ (2023-01-15)
© 2005-2023 Acmlm, blackhole89, Xkeeper et al.

Page rendered in 0.030 seconds. (343KB of memory used)
MySQL - queries: 119, rows: 163/164, time: 0.019 seconds.