Points of Required Attention™
Please chime in on a proposed restructuring of the ROM hacking sections.
Views: 88,528,399
 Main | FAQ | Uploader | IRC chat | Radio | Memberlist | Active users | Latest posts | Calendar | Stats | Online users | Search 05-04-24 03:13 AM
Guest: Register | Login

0 users currently in General Chat | 5 guests

Main - General Chat - Dividing by Zero New thread | New reply

Pages: 1 2

Bukkarooo
Posted on 12-31-08 12:25 AM Link | Quote | ID: 97881


Fuzzy
Son of a bitch, I'm sick of these dolphins...
Level: 59

Posts: 52/778
EXP: 1635477
Next: 37651

Since: 10-15-08
From: Florida

Last post: 5191 days
Last view: 4959 days




Well, infinity is endless numbers. I guess my explanation was kinda fucked... just tough to explain. I probably explained it differently how I view it.... ugh. I can only think of explaining infinity as an infinite amount of numbers, and that's basically using a word to define itself.....

Completely disregard my last post. I was tired and apparantly really confused myself . Reading it over, it makes almost no sense.

My only point for my answer is that when you divide, you take the largest amount possible. For example, 8/2. You can't say 2, because 2*2=4, but that's still less than 8. One more 2, and you have 4, which is the answer. Going by that logic, 0 has to go into any number an infinite amount of times, as we can keep adding it without it being larger than x.

This is tough to explain... hope this one made more sense and what I actually mean!

____________________



Layout made by Stark.

nutman217
Posted on 12-31-08 02:56 PM Link | Quote | ID: 97903


Buster Beetle
Goddamn citrus!
Level: 47

Posts: 133/459
EXP: 740805
Next: 25398

Since: 10-20-08
From: The Bowels of Hell

Last post: 5516 days
Last view: 5412 days 		Based on what my crazy brother said, infinity cannot be defined by any number, it's just a concept.

Based on my logic, infinity is not just a number, it is everything that exists in some form, whether it is text, or physical or mental or whatever.

Before you scream at me, keep in mind that the first 'paragraph' was what my BROTHER said. Scream about my second 'paragraph'.

Does that mean X/0=Anything you imagine/want?

...nah

____________________
RAEG

RetroRain
Posted on 12-31-08 03:12 PM (rev. 3 of 12-31-08 03:21 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 97906


Fuzz Ball
Level: 66

Posts: 363/994
EXP: 2439735
Next: 22116

Since: 09-30-07

Last post: 1942 days
Last view: 965 days 		I always thought that whole dividing-by-zero thing was weird myself.

If you have 1 slice of pizza in your hand, and you want to divide it by 1, then basically it is saying you want to divide it by itself, which you can't do, so it makes sense that you are left with the 1 slice that is still in your hands.

Now, if you have 8 slices, and you want to divide by 1, you can't divide 8 slices into 1, unless you are giving somebody the whole pie, so it makes sense to me that you are still left with 8 slices. If you give somebody that whole pie, you are giving them 1 WHOLE pie, which consists of 8 slices, so that whole dividing-by-one thing makes sense.

Then they say that anything divided by zero, whether it be 8, 5, or 9, is 0.

I have that same slice of pizza in my hand, and now I want to divide it by 0. I don't LOSE that slice. I still have it.

According to mathematics, I would lose that slice, which is impossible. If I am dividing it by 0, I am not dividing it by anything, so I still HAVE that 1 slice.

____________________
My YouTube Channel

blackhole89
Posted on 12-31-08 03:32 PM Link | Quote | ID: 97908


The Guardian
Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows!
Level: 124

Posts: 2173/4196
EXP: 21546111
Next: 290490

Since: 02-19-07
From: Ithaca, NY, US

Last post: 479 days
Last view: 91 days



Just because some kind of metaphor helps you visualize a mathematical concept, you shouldn't assume that it is equivalent to it... much less so try to question the concept because of something not lining up in the "common-sense" metaphor.

____________________

Bukkarooo
Posted on 12-31-08 08:35 PM Link | Quote | ID: 97927


Fuzzy
Son of a bitch, I'm sick of these dolphins...
Level: 59

Posts: 53/778
EXP: 1635477
Next: 37651

Since: 10-15-08
From: Florida

Last post: 5191 days
Last view: 4959 days




Posted by Logical Operand
I always thought that whole dividing-by-zero thing was weird myself.

If you have 1 slice of pizza in your hand, and you want to divide it by 1, then basically it is saying you want to divide it by itself, which you can't do, so it makes sense that you are left with the 1 slice that is still in your hands.

Now, if you have 8 slices, and you want to divide by 1, you can't divide 8 slices into 1, unless you are giving somebody the whole pie, so it makes sense to me that you are still left with 8 slices. If you give somebody that whole pie, you are giving them 1 WHOLE pie, which consists of 8 slices, so that whole dividing-by-one thing makes sense.

Then they say that anything divided by zero, whether it be 8, 5, or 9, is 0.

I have that same slice of pizza in my hand, and now I want to divide it by 0. I don't LOSE that slice. I still have it.

According to mathematics, I would lose that slice, which is impossible. If I am dividing it by 0, I am not dividing it by anything, so I still HAVE that 1 slice.


My earlier point still stands that a physical example just does not work for this. Though thinking along the lines of a (pizza) pie may help you understand division in general, it isn't a valid model for this. You can't divide a pizza by zero, because you can't end up with no slices or an infinite amount of slices.

____________________



Layout made by Stark.

NSNick
Posted on 12-31-08 09:07 PM (rev. 2 of 12-31-08 09:07 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 97931


Ropa
Alcoholic
Level: 59

Posts: 718/737
EXP: 1585827
Next: 87301

Since: 02-20-07
From: The North Side


Last post: 5462 days
Last view: 2598 days




Profile
PM
Rate
Posts
Threads
After this thread, lets discuss .99999... = 1

Or the Monty Hall problem.



____________________
"Why so serious?"

Komaru
Posted on 01-01-09 06:53 AM Link | Quote | ID: 97964


Red Cheep-cheep
Level: 33

Posts: 165/204
EXP: 219593
Next: 9586

Since: 10-15-08
From: A Wormhole, John Chrichton!

Last post: 5574 days
Last view: 5538 days

Posted by blackhole89
Posted by Komaru
Wait a second. Dividing is the same as multiplying by the reriprocal of the denominator, right? So the denom. of 5/0 is 0; recip. is 0/1.
Resulting in 5/0=5*(0/1)
But 0/1 is 0,
so 5/0=5*(0)=0

Am I doing something wrong here?
You are aware that the reciprocal is 1/x, not x/1, right? x/1 is just x again.



Ahh. That was where I made a mistake. I knew it was somwhere, but I couldn't find i at the time. Kinda funny, because I use fractions that way all the time.

In which case, my example leads you into a circle of dividing by zero.

____________________
Pages: 1 2


Main - General Chat - Dividing by Zero New thread | New reply

Acmlmboard 2.1+4δ (2023-01-15)
© 2005-2023 Acmlm, blackhole89, Xkeeper et al.

Page rendered in 0.023 seconds. (322KB of memory used)
MySQL - queries: 62, rows: 77/78, time: 0.017 seconds.