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PSlugworth
Posted on 07-15-08 07:51 AM (rev. 2 of 07-15-08 07:53 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 87478


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Back in the mid-'90s, I considered myself a pretty hot-shot toughguy when I figured out HTML and started designing web pages and things.

Somewhere along the way I kind of gave up on the whole thing and never really bothered learning anything new.

Today I still know nothing beyond HTML and some rudimentary CSS. Every time I start to think about web design again I hear all these buzzwords and languages that mean nothing to me--Ajax, DOM scripting, DHTML, PHP, SQL--suddenly to be a designer you need a degree in computer engineering?

I'd like (and need) to catch up on everything that I've missed out on, but I have no idea where to even begin, how to fit all these things together, and so on, and even if I did I have this knot in my stomach that in the amount of time it took to learn any one of them, two or three new "standard" technologies will have cropped up to have made it obsolete.

Does anyone have any suggestions on where I can begin to tackle some of this? I have a web server up and running (barely) with PHP and MySQL installed (to experiment, since I literally no absolutely nothing about either--though running through a tutorial of how to get a simple database up and running on MySQL is still giving me errors, so whatever). The first person to give me some kind of worthwhile resource for a more-or-less total novice can have my firstborn. If two or more people can recommend equally-good resources, you may divide the infant amongst yourselves!

Edit: P.S.: I know about W3C schools, and while they're a great reference they're a terrible teaching tool; it's like learning to drive a car by reading the owner's manual.

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Posted on 07-15-08 08:12 AM (rev. 3 of 07-15-08 08:23 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 87479


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Name him Tod.
EDIT: How did I miss that? Well, I'll leave it here for other lazy people and for the reasons Sukasa mentioned...

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Posted on 07-15-08 08:13 AM Link | Quote | ID: 87480


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Hey! I added a P.S. onto that first post! But thanks anyway...

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Posted on 07-15-08 08:17 AM Link | Quote | ID: 87481


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eh, sort through the fluff and w3schools is okay enough as a starting point. Generally, you don't need to know nearly as many terms as there are out there, which is nice. The general rule I use is:

AJAX = changing web pages without reloading the whole thing (think (i)frames)

PHP/ASP/etc = Web server stuff, for a small example showing the current server time

SQL/MySQL = databases

X(HT)ML = Stupidity

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Posted on 07-17-08 02:10 AM Link | Quote | ID: 87550

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Posted by PSlugworth
Edit: P.S.: I know about W3C schools, and while they're a great reference they're a terrible teaching tool; it's like learning to drive a car by reading the owner's manual.
I dunno, I learned some basic CSS and how to write good CSS/HTML that will pass the W3C compatibility.

Of course, I did wind up using it more of a reference than a learning tool rather quickly.

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