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Omega45889
Posted on 02-13-08 01:44 PM Link | Quote | ID: 77586


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Its been more and more clear to me as ive grown up that rom hacking is somewhat of a dilemma. Time becomes more and more scarce, and when I really have spare time I find myself choosing between doing something productive that can further my life in terms of finances, education, social life, and doing something that while I enjoy, doesn't get me anywhere, rom hacking being the example here.

When I look at what I could have done with the time ive invested in programming Lazy Shell for instance, its a bitter sweet feeling. Ive spent god knows how many hours working on it. Im very proud of what me and Giangurgolo have created. Its one hell of a program, and I never envisioned it going this well before I began.

For a sense of perspective, the source is currently at 69,652 lines of code.

Thats almost 70,000 lines of code, and it will probably be another 10 - 20 thousand more before its complete. Thats what it takes to write a good editor.

I have a unique position where I can invest time in my career by myself and see returns. I could probably have earned an additional 50-100 thousand dollars had I spent that time working instead of writing lazy shell. Now, I almost guarantee I would have wasted the time on something else like partying/drinking/video games, but this is what I mean by it being a dilemma.

So as I grow older, and money becomes more and more important its a tough decision to invest time into Rom Hacking.

How do you guys feel about this?

blackhole89
Posted on 02-13-08 02:06 PM Link | Quote | ID: 77589


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While money itself doesn't seem like quite much of an issue to me - at least at the moment - (looking at average wages in computing, my thoughts mostly are along the lines of "what in hell am I going to do with that much money"), I do kind of share your feelings at time, except in regard to my education. Every minute spent on spare time projects, for me, means a minute I could spend doing a minimum of preparations for subjects I can't score in without doing anything (ex: History) or improving my knowledge in something altogether different (advanced maths, languages) "wasted".
However, as long as I just do keep dedicating a minimum required amount of attention to those fields, I feel like I am doing the right thing. This might sound like a terribly pathetic thing to say, but, assuming you happen to be one of those (un?)lucky ones who get to anticipate their end, be it due to disease or high age - at some point, lying in your deathbed, you will ask yourself if your life was worth it, and the answer you will give yourself will hardly be a function of the amount of money you earned in the course like in some arcade game revolving around high scores.

To boil it down, the stance of me, an 18 year old who never had to earn a single penny of his own money yet, is that you should do something yourself and others will remember you for, no matter how irrelevant.

Did that make any sense at all? I just literally went wake up->turn on PC->acmm.kafuka.org->latest posts->this thread->new reply.

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Posted on 02-13-08 06:01 PM (rev. 2 of 02-13-08 06:13 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 77601


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Omie: (Assumng you're the same Omega from the Tek Hacks days) Age plays a major factor, and doing things that are a priority'll always come first. I went through what you're going through now (How old are you anyways?) There's alotta things I wish I coulda accomplish in my younger years. Now that I'll be turning 33 next month doing things I needa take care'a is really hard to do.

I do alotta side jobs with my brother for his business, and it doesn't pay very well. The job market is so hard these days, I'm looking for something stable so I can go back to school and get a graphic design & animation course so I can be farther with my cartoons.

Suffering from depression doesn't help either to do anything productive. I do wanna finish the projects in my Work in Progress folder, but honestly I don't see it happening. There's just too many things to deal with that ROM Hacking at times doesn't even pop in my head. I still like the hobby, sometimes I do get turned off cause I dunno the Black Arts of ASM, and I really don't have time to sit down and study it.

I do like that editors are still being made, and I'm the type that I'll try'em out. But yeah, real life issues is a kick in the ass that'll just get harder as you get older. I got into ROM Hacking cause I used to work all crazy type'a hours, if I woulda get my things straight when I was in my 20's, who knows what I woulda accomplish.

ROM Hacking for me is like I'm living a dream I had when I was a kid growing up in the NES days, I used to make my own levels and send them to Nintendo of various games.

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Koolboyman
Posted on 02-14-08 10:16 AM Link | Quote | ID: 77762


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Yes ROM Hacking can be a very time consuming hobby, however I tend to view it in a different light. One day, I hope to become a game designer, and with ROM hacking (complete rewrites), I'm learning what makes a good game. One of most important things I've learned is to make the overall experience fun from start to finish, and I still have a lot to learn. So, I suppose my ROM Hacks are just practice before I make real games.

The week before Prism's latest beta release, my life was basically Prism (as well as eating, drinking, sleeping and using the bathroom). I kind of felt empty inside when all I did was ROM hack all day, as well as question myself "Is all this hard work worth it?". I can totally understand where you're coming from.

However, if you're older, you obviously won't be able to spend as much time on it, since you have to worry about the real world. It really matters what kind of situation you're in. As we all know, time seems to go faster as you get older, but worrying about "How much time you have left" isn't a good way to live. We should just live our lives doing what we want, and then when it's time, we'll all die; theres no escaping from death. I mean, there are other time consuming hobbies that take up way more time than ROM hacking. If you're feeling like it's a waste of time, take a break, and when (or if) you're motivated work on it again, go ahead. Usually works for me, but motivation seems to come at random times.

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Posted on 02-14-08 12:00 PM Link | Quote | ID: 77771


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To me, ROM hacking is not just a pointless time waster, it's a source of experience.

My work on disassembling SMW, determining how it works on a technical level and how they solved certain problems has given me invaluable experience when it comes to game coding (as well as other things). When I made a Zelda-like game as a school project, the structure of the program was based on that of SMW. If I didn't have that knowledge, god knows how horribly structured it would have been, and the knowledge will hopefully also come in handy in the future.

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Omega45889
Posted on 02-14-08 02:51 PM Link | Quote | ID: 77786


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Omie: (Assumng you're the same Omega from the Tek Hacks days) Age plays a major factor, and doing things that are a priority'll always come first. I went through what you're going through now (How old are you anyways?) There's alotta things I wish I coulda accomplish in my younger years.

Yeah, im the same guy from Tek Hacks, so ive been around for a while. Whatever happened to that place anyways?

I just turned 22 recently so im still relatively young.


To me, ROM hacking is not just a pointless time waster, it's a source of experience.

Yeah, I feel the same way. Ive learned a lot about coding from writing Lazy Shell.

I think i explained myself in the OP, and im sure we all understand what I mean. Im not looking for answers here, that everyone needs to come up with themselves. Its an interesting topic that is very relevant to rom hacking as lots of people seem to leave the scene as time passes.

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