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Ailure

Posted on 01-29-08 05:22 PM (rev. 2 of 01-29-08 05:23 PM)

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Wikipedia article.

My opinions, posted in my journal.

Video the started it all.

Discuss~

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Arbe

Posted on 01-29-08 07:00 PM

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I love this. It really shows that all those creepy kids sat in their basements can make a difference to the world. It gives a thousand hopeless flames fuel.

blackhole89

Posted on 01-29-08 07:10 PM

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I'm all in on it.

Right now, though, it looks like internal differences in Anonymous, IRC channel and board leaders fearing the party van, a certain number of Scientologist /b/tards and recent-joiner kids who are too tame and timid to go against an enemy of this magnitude massively impede the progress of this.

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Posted on 01-30-08 06:04 AM

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What a complete and utter waste of resources. I suddenly have more sympathy for the Church of Scientology.

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Posted on 01-30-08 06:14 AM

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Posted by Juggling Joker
What a complete and utter waste of resources. I suddenly have more sympathy for the Church of Scientology.

That's really sad, because they deserve absolutely none.

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Posted on 01-30-08 06:17 AM

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Like it or not, they are an officially recognized religious organization. Their members are a bunch of loonies and scam artists, but that's true of most (if not all) major religious organizations.

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Posted on 01-30-08 07:38 AM

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Posted by Juggling Joker
Like it or not, they are an officially recognized religious organization. Their members are a bunch of loonies and scam artists, but that's true of most (if not all) major religious organizations.

"Because the law approves it, it must be right".
This kind of thought kills any country. I'd say it's a form of jingoism, too.

Ailure

Posted on 01-30-08 07:43 AM

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Posted by Juggling Joker
Like it or not, they are an officially recognized religious organization.

In US yes. Everywhere else... it depends on the country. It's not recognized as a religion in Germany last time I checked, because it wasn't run non-profit.

Since it's run more like a business than a non-profit orginization, I don't really consider it a religion.

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Stark

Posted on 01-30-08 11:55 AM

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This is pretty dumb. Much as Scientology is retarded and wrong, this can't plausibly help.

Posted by Juggling Joker
Their members are a bunch of loonies and scam artists, but that's true of most (if not all) major religious organizations.

Thanks, it's really comforting to hear you say that religious people are crazy. I don't find that offensive. I don't find that offensive.

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slimthug102

Posted on 01-30-08 12:30 PM

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Posted by Juggling Joker
What a complete and utter waste of resources. I suddenly have more sympathy for the Church of Scientology.

Why is that, do you understand what the operation is truly about?

Are you just blinded by your personal bias against the *chans and similar websites?

Posted by "ArBeWhat"
I love this. It really shows that all those creepy kids sat in their basements can make a difference to the world. It gives a thousand hopeless flames fuel.

I always love it when people think Anonymous as a whole is just a bunch of stereotype nerds or something. If anything, this forum probably has a higher ratio of fat nerds swimming in mountain dew and potato chips in front of their computers. The reality is that the majority of *channers are young people in college with (relatively) healthy social lives, even if they're considered a bit nerdy.

As a whole, Anonymous is completely unorganized, there's no single leader or small group of individual at the reins. The campaign will be chaotic, effective, produce backlash, resentment.

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I wouldn't respond on generalizations by making new generalizations. *rolleyes*

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Posted on 01-30-08 12:42 PM

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Posted by Ailure
I wouldn't respond on generalizations by making new generalizations. *rolleyes*

knuck

Posted on 01-30-08 01:08 PM

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Posted by Juggling Joker
What a complete and utter waste of resources. I suddenly have more sympathy for the Church of Scientology.
Why is that, do you understand what the operation is truly about?

Are you just blinded by your personal bias against the *chans and similar websites?

Posted by "ArBeWhat"
I love this. It really shows that all those creepy kids sat in their basements can make a difference to the world. It gives a thousand hopeless flames fuel.
I always love it when people think Anonymous as a whole is just a bunch of stereotype nerds or something. If anything, this forum probably has a higher ratio of fat nerds swimming in mountain dew and potato chips in front of their computers. The reality is that the majority of *channers are young people in college with (relatively) healthy social lives, even if they're considered a bit nerdy.

As a whole, Anonymous is completely unorganized, there's no single leader or small group of individual at the reins. The campaign will be chaotic, effective, produce backlash, resentment.

I love you

blackhole89

Posted on 01-30-08 01:40 PM

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Currently, the project seems to be suffering massive damage from nobody quite having the guts hosting them out of fear of the Scientology-driven party van. Three IRC networks have kicked the raid channels out, 711chan has pulled a large show and all other chans don't seem to be quite keen on hosting the planning either. Wikis and the like keep going down.

I wonder if this will work out...

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Juggling Joker

Posted on 01-30-08 02:40 PM (rev. 2 of 01-30-08 02:53 PM)

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Posted by knuck
This kind of thought kills any country. I'd say it's a form of jingoism, too.

Then fight it legally. The protest is a good idea, if anyone could get off their ass to make it happen (hint, they won't). Childishly attacking Scientology's websites does nothing but make them the victim.

Posted by Ailure
In US yes. Everywhere else... it depends on the country. It's not recognized as a religion in Germany last time I checked, because it wasn't run non-profit.

Since it's run more like a business than a non-profit orginization, I don't really consider it a religion.

Acknowledged, and irrelevant.

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Thanks, it's really comforting to hear you say that religious people are crazy. I don't find that offensive. I don't find that offensive.

Anything for you, baby.

Posted by CrimsonGx
Why is that, do you understand what the operation is truly about?

Are you just blinded by your personal bias against the *chans and similar websites?

Here's a newflash kid: nobody who isn't a Scientologist already believes that Scientology is anything but a nutsy cult. I don't think I've once visited a chan site, nor do I have any interest. To each their own.

Right, you guys go on believing that it's okay for a group you support to censor another organization (lulz, remember when Scientology tried to get the Tom Cruise video off the internet and then some internet retards DoS'd their site? Good times), and I'll go on believing that everyone has a right to support whatever ridiculous things they want. If they break the law, punish them. If you think what they did broke the law and it really didn't, contact the appropriate authorities/organizations/whatever and make a change to your legislature.

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Posted on 01-30-08 03:59 PM

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If they break the law, punish them. If you think what they did broke the law and it really didn't, contact the appropriate authorities/organizations/whatever and make a change to your legislature.

Scientology has gained a sufficient amount of influence on relevant authorities in an all-but-democratic manner.
Truth is, Scientology hacks the western countries' legal system like a ROM hacker hacks his SMB1. As long as they are riding in the legal slipstream of a multiple billion dollar industry (copyrights, DMCA and what-not), there is no legal chance to put an end to that either. The question whether or not it is morally acceptable to go against them in this manner is equivalent, in a way, to the old question whether the people are above the law or the law is above the people.

Here's a newflash kid: nobody who isn't a Scientologist already believes that Scientology is anything but a nutsy cult.

And yet, they are growing. How's that? I doubt it's because they are fast breeders.

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Posted on 01-31-08 02:21 AM

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Posted by "blackhole89"
Scientology has gained a sufficient amount of influence on relevant authorities in an all-but-democratic manner.
Truth is, Scientology hacks the western countries' legal system like a ROM hacker hacks his SMB1. As long as they are riding in the legal slipstream of a multiple billion dollar industry (copyrights, DMCA and what-not), there is no legal chance to put an end to that either. The question whether or not it is morally acceptable to go against them in this manner is equivalent, in a way, to the old question whether the people are above the law or the law is above the people.

How does this change the fact (yes fact) that Project Chanology's DoS attacks on Scientology webpages is exactly the sort of "internet censorship" that supposedly trigged their entire existence? Whether the CoS is a technically legal organization is kinda irrelevant if the only way to "go against them" is to commit the same crimes.

Do I support the CoS's actions concerning the leaked Tom Cruise video? Of course not, the people have the right to see the video if they want. But the people should also have the right to believe in Scientology and visit their webpages if they desire, even if you and I know that doing so is almost assuredly a bad decision.

And yet, they are growing. How's that? I doubt it's because they are fast breeders.

Acknowledged, there are crazy people that aren't Scientologists yet.

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Posted on 01-31-08 03:31 AM

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Posted by Juggling Joker
But the people should also have the right to believe in Scientology and visit their webpages if they desire, even if you and I know that doing so is almost assuredly a bad decision.

And yet, they are growing. How's that? I doubt it's because they are fast breeders.
Acknowledged, there are crazy people that aren't Scientologists yet.

fukkin retard

Juggling Joker

Posted on 01-31-08 03:34 AM

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Thanks for the contribution, sport.

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Posted on 01-31-08 04:23 AM

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Chanology is a hoax, very few events reported or depicted on their sites really happened or were in any way related to their claimed cause.

Chanology is simply owned by DSMagnum, all contributions simply go to him buying beer and weed.

the PartyVan irc network has been around for atleast 4 years.

it is no longer anonymous, as you must provide your real name when registering for the wiki, and your email address which is traceable to actual ip used when registering for the irc network in order to be able to speak.

it is in no way a threat to scientology.

in fact the DDoS program of Chanology is non-functional and extremely buggy, often being reported to simply crash the user's own computer.

Chanology is simply a "call-to-lulz" and nothing more.

it's just a hoax.

99% of partyvan irc users are simply DSMagnum himself.

all the DDoS software really does is set up 10 to 25 proxied irc clients on partyvan controlled by himself.

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