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| Main - Gaming - Simcity is now open Source | New thread | New reply |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 2120/3965 EXP: 19781551 Next: 275145 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3303 days Last view: 2054 days |
Slashdot discussion. Though it will only be called Simcity on the OLPC laptop, everywhere else it will be called for (understandable trademark reasons) Micropolis.
Don Hopkins, worked on it... same guy that is pretty much invented pie menusa, popular from The sims and some other applications/games (some of the earliest being from the late 80's...). And the Sims transformgifier for The sims (1) as well, so he's pretty known name in the Sim fan community.  ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 2123/3965 EXP: 19781551 Next: 275145 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3303 days Last view: 2054 days |
OpenTTD is a good example of what happens to a game after it got "open sourced", though unlike openTTD Simcity wasn't reverse engineered... just reworked for a open source release. Expect somewhat faster progress with Simcity too, as the openTTD crew spent (and still spend) on code cleaning from the reverse engineering days. Don Hopkins already done this with the Simcity source apparently. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 2125/3965 EXP: 19781551 Next: 275145 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3303 days Last view: 2054 days |
I wouldn't be so quick saying that.
A huge point with Simcity is that it's a simple game. And this version is supposed to be highly moddable. In other words, it can be used to learn kids about programming... while having fun with a game.
Besides, peopel in the open soruce community probably wind up adding concepts from later Simcity games (traffic simulation, hospitals, garbage system...). (Of course, having the source from Simcity 4 wuld be the best... but it would be totally unfit for the OLPC project. They would self-ignite from even trying to start that game. xD) ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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 CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 652/5344 EXP: 30948683 Next: 714298 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4499 days Last view: 2635 days |
I smell political debate in a thread about SimCity being opensourced. Is it just me or...? ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks  — byuu |
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Posted by blackhole89 man their is a naive viewpoint I grew up in the third world, they don't wait for open source, they just pirate games, it's not like there is any law enforcement cracking down on them, the law has bigger problems.
also so this is just sim city right? not even sim city 2000? wow, it's been awhile since I've picked up the old one. ____________________ Petition for Factor 5 game on Wii |
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The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 124 Posts: 1255/4196 EXP: 21535596 Next: 301005 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 473 days Last view: 85 days |
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Koopa Level: 26 Posts: 109/113 EXP: 94427 Next: 7848 Since: 05-28-07 From: Salem, Oregon Last post: 5932 days Last view: 3463 days |
you're right, and you're wrong, I grew up in the country of Papua New Guinea, I spent my most of my years in the Eastern Highlands town of Goroka. The internet is crap, but it's there, I figure the entire country has like 1 T1 connection for everyone.
the country is diverse, there is everyone from people living off the land in huts to big coastal towns that are not quite first world but they are plenty modern. it is a 3rd world country, technology has arrived, we live in the line of asian islands and coast from hong kong through the philipeans and indonesia, stuff is stolen, modified, and pirated, and sold in stores in our towns. you can catch a ride into town and by VCDs (pirated movies on a video cd format, only I'd imagine they've upgraded to DVDs by now) for 10 Kina, that's roughtly 3 dollars. there is plenty of legitimate merchandise too, don't get me wrong, in fact there is a lot, but when it comes to movies and gaming everything is modified and most likely copied to keep the price down. All PS2s are modded, this is due to the fact that the only games sold are copied games. there are some music cds too but cassette tapes are still a hot item. heck, brian bell (big store in png) even has it's own website now if you don't believe me have a look http://www.brianbell.com.pg/AudioVisualPage.html I live in America now, going to university, but be carefull who you stereotype, you never know when you're going to run into one. I know you didn't mean anything, but just because someone lives in a developing nation, and has a weak economy doesn't mean that they're technologically backward. sorry, it's a touchy subject for me, I put up with a lot of presumptions because I come from a developing nation. On the flipside it's humorous to think that everyone over there are wonderful people who use open stuff only, because the sad truth is the new stuff isn't open, and in oceania (pacific-asian region) copied merchandise is pretty accesible. ____________________ Petition for Factor 5 game on Wii |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 2131/3965 EXP: 19781551 Next: 275145 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3303 days Last view: 2054 days |
Actually, it's pretty widely known that 3rd world countries uses pirated content. Way more than 1st world countries do.
The point with OLPC was to develop a cheap computer for education. Nothing else. OLPC computers won't solely be for 3rd world nations, some been ordered for American schools apparently. In the end, I'm glad that EA games got their act together and did dare to at least let the source of the original Simcity to be released. Even if in somewhat reworked form. And the license for the game is very strict about the Simcity trademark, or rather that you can't call it Simcity without the permission from EA. xD Ironically, it probably take a bit before there's a Win32 port of this. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 654/5344 EXP: 30948683 Next: 714298 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4499 days Last view: 2635 days |
It wasn't just me, was it? This really is a debate. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 124 Posts: 1260/4196 EXP: 21535596 Next: 301005 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 473 days Last view: 85 days |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 2136/3965 EXP: 19781551 Next: 275145 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3303 days Last view: 2054 days |
blackhole89, the laptop is mainly meant for elementary school level education anyway. I believe masterofpuppets is educating himself on a university level as well.
I got my laptop free from my university. But you have to remember that not every country have the money for doing that with it's students. >> Considering that the education budget in USA is apparently more... limited as well, compared to the Swedish socialistic education which also doesn't cost anything apart from student union fee and study material. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 2142/3965 EXP: 19781551 Next: 275145 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3303 days Last view: 2054 days |
Posted by beegLol, that failed hard i heard. It had some nice fresh ideas, but was badly executed from what I heard... and was blamed for overly simplification. At first, I thought it was just Simcity 4 fans who wanted a more complicated game... but apparently not. xD I loved Simcity 4 for being complicated, it's my favourite simcity. <3 PSP port shouldn't be that hard now I think on it. DS should be simple as well. There's work porting openTTD to the DS, which is really tricky because of it's limitations. Simcity should be easier to port. Got it running on my Ubuntu VM... now if it wasn't hardcoded after the OLPC resolution. XD ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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OH GOD YES
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 2208/3965 EXP: 19781551 Next: 275145 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3303 days Last view: 2054 days |
Small bump, but yeah I read there is some kind of multiplayer support. However, I don't know how to set that up. And I hadn't seen a Windows port yet either... ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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