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cory21391
Posted on 10-28-07 07:58 AM Link | Quote | ID: 68762


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Why must they exist? I mean it's very annoying talking to someone about a game and JUST b/c its not a *insert platform* game it sucks. Me personally? I like all systems as they have their own games and pros/cons. I'm hopefully gonna get a 360 around christmas (for bioshock, gears, halo 3, etc.) and a ps3 next year, hopefully around spring (MGS4, killzone 2, gt5, etc.) And we all know the wii has zelda and mario (and motion-sensing controller). I mean, I do prefer ps3, but there's a difference in preference and "i like this and nothing else." Like cars: I prefer Dodge but that doesn't mean Fords aren't good. And then you go actually read comments and they're fucking retarded! Like "a-dur... ps3 sux."

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Posted on 10-28-07 08:03 AM (rev. 2 of 10-28-07 08:05 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 68763


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I like all systems myself unless a company makes a reason that I should not. Such as Sony. When I hear of them suing small companies for selling import goods (driving them out of business), I lose respect for them and give a reason why I should not use my money on their products.

Ah well.

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Posted on 10-28-07 11:06 AM (rev. 2 of 10-28-07 11:09 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 68769

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Fanboys exist because people make a choice early on and, out of simple insecurity, feel they must remind themselves that they made the right choice by deriding the other options.

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Posted on 10-28-07 04:05 PM Link | Quote | ID: 68771


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Eh, I find fanboys to be more of the AIM grammar, who can never really strike an argument. All they are are bags of flesh wanting to act like their ideals are better.

Elitists are more the assholes I'd rather not exist: fanboys aimlessly try to win fights,l without much evidence. Elitists seem more to actively search out evidence and arguments to win a petty statement; much more likely to flame others in attempts to sustain their ego and viewpoints (much like fanboys, do they ten dot generally feel insecure when their opinion is talked against); and they always tend to generally downtrod a game with another--in any game topic, it seems they'll try to bring in their favorite and make it better than the one being discussed, especially when their game is being compared to, heaven forbid in a lesser state!, isn't the one receiving all the good points.

You can your idiots and then you have your assholes ^^

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Posted by Celice
Eh, I find fanboys to be more of the AIM grammar, who can never really strike an argument. All they are are bags of flesh wanting to act like their ideals are better.

Elitists are more the assholes I'd rather not exist: fanboys aimlessly try to win fights,l without much evidence. Elitists seem more to actively search out evidence and arguments to win a petty statement; much more likely to flame others in attempts to sustain their ego and viewpoints (much like fanboys, do they ten dot generally feel insecure when their opinion is talked against); and they always tend to generally downtrod a game with another--in any game topic, it seems they'll try to bring in their favorite and make it better than the one being discussed, especially when their game is being compared to, heaven forbid in a lesser state!, isn't the one receiving all the good points.
Um, no. "Elistists" and "fanboys" as you described are not just the similar. They are the same fucking thing. Fanboys.

By the way, I like all systems except Wii.

theclaw
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While it may not directly relate to fanboys, one thing I really can't stand is new videeo game hardware that has technical flaws right out of the box. Especially if they're specific to just me and few if any other people experience it. The reliability of Gamecube controllers for instance. Or my previous PSP not being about to read Memory Stick Pro Duo cards.

I guess it's still relevant though. When you mention things like the above to them, they'll damage control it and attempt making said problems seem like your own fault. Gah!

Anyway. Typically call myself a Microsoft fanboy, but it's not too noticable since I play such a wide variety of games on many systems.

And yes. I do hate Nintendo in real-life. People online who disregard the existance of outside are something else that just irks me to no end...

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Posted on 10-29-07 01:33 PM Link | Quote | ID: 68801

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Posted by Alastor
Fanboys exist because people make a choice early on and, out of simple insecurity, feel they must remind themselves that they made the right choice by deriding the other options.
Couldn't it boil down to "I really like franchise X, and Franchise Y is a competitor to franchise X... which makes Franchise Y my sworn enemy!"?

Of course, it might differ from fanboy to fanboy...

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I've always liked Sonic, so when Sonic moved platforms, it made it difficult to stay in the franchise, so I got a Gamecube for Christmas one year and I own like... 2 1st party games...

I have a Wii now and a lot of the games look promising, the majority of the games that seem to sell on the XBOX 360 and PS3 are going to be FPS, which I flat out hate anything past DOOM 2, I mean, they're all practically the same game, you might not have the same exact weapons or enemies, but it just gets really boring, and few companies try to liven things up with something new...

While I realize someone can counter that statement with saying Platformers are all the same per se but add something to spice it up a bit, but most of the time, when I am playing a Platformer I don't normally find the same exact thing in all of them, there is more verity than shoot and kill, and the major selling point of these FPS is the online multiplayer mode, I'm willing to bet Halo 3 wouldn't have sold hardly anything if it didn't have it's multiplayer mode.

While I think Multiplayer is a great thing to have in games, I don't normally like playing with total strangers, and I certainly don't like playing with those idiots who memorize re-spawn points and hand your ass to you on a silver plater a few thousand times... I think games should be made in the sense that the 1st player mode is good and doesn't require you go online to enjoy the game (which from my understanding is what everyone loves about Halo) While I have only played Halo 1 one time, I fell asleep while playing it... so boring...

As for Sony, I feel that they're in a boat that many companies have been in before, expensive hardware and no games that are really good just yet, but I have the slight feeling Metal Gear Solid 4 is going to bring them back up a bit, while I don't think it'll be the systems selling point because that only covers just about the majority of everyone who loves FPS and thinks that's the only true Video Game... While I've only played the original Metal Gear (and didn't get very far in it) and I don't have a PS2 or anything so I can't play the ones that came out later in 3D, I am a little biased towards Sony because most of the time if I buy something from them it ends up breaking sooner or later, the best thing I've ever bought from them was a CD player that lasted me a good 11 years, I know they have a lot of say in the video game market seeing how they dominated last gen, but I don't see the Wii staying ahead much longer unfortunately, I like the Wii because it's something different, while on the XBOX 360 and PS3 you have people debating which HD looks better because they have the same exact graphical capabilities. Honestly Graphics aren't going to get much better than they are right now, while HD can look nice it's usually wasted on shades of grey, brown, black, ect. I mean... it's not even the slight bit of appealing...

Microsoft is trying to open up to the casual game audience, and most of those games have failed to make any difference. I personally would like to see all the systems take Nintendo's course with casual gaming, not having one platform dominate them all and only have one type of game that actually sells on the thing (check a few sales charts for the XBOX 360, I'm willing to bet the top 5 games, the majority are FPS).

To be honest, I hate Microsoft fanboys who put down other systems for no apparent reason. While I'm taking bits of pieces of the systems, I'm not just going to go out and say that "Nintendo is the best and they're going to flat out win this generation. " I have the feeling that the Wii will soon be overlooked because the XBOX 360 and PS3 have better graphics (while I don't honestly see why anyone should give a flying shit about graphics, when the hell did it become a requirement for games to try and look realistic?)

While Sonic has taken the path of stupidity because the people who make his games are only concerned about what he looks like as a character, not how his games play... and they gave the games a really shitty cast to voice them. (Japan casted them, not SOA and SOA can't do anything about the voices... which I realize is a small issue.) I'm about to just give up on Sonic all together, Sonic Rush Adventure is the only Sonic game really appealing to me at this moment and I do want it, it looks fun and I've heard it's really good.

I'm what few people would consider a gamer, at least that's what I consider myself, I was never able to own any consoles till my Gamecube, other wise it was just pick and choose from my emulators... (at least I was able to play good games, and I have a PS1 emulator and love most of the games I've played on it.) I like systems for the games on them, not the system. I actually am considering getting a XBOX 360 or a PS3 if they come out with some games that actually interest me... For now, I'll just stick with my Wii because it's the only thing that isn't living off of FPS.

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slimthug102
Posted on 10-30-07 09:27 PM Link | Quote | ID: 68875


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I have a 360 now and a lot of the games look promising, the majority of the games that seem to sell on the Wii are going to be Platformers and RPGs, which I flat out hate anything past The first few Marios, I mean, they're all practically the same game, you might not have the same exact environments and enemies, but it just gets really boring, and few companies try to liven things up with something new...

While I realize someone can counter that statement with saying FPS are all the same per se but add something to spice it up a bit, but most of the time, when I am playing a FPS I don't normally find the same exact thing in all of them, there is more variety than jump and do kindergarten puzzles, and the major selling point of these Platformers and RPGs is the singleplayer mode, I'm willing to bet these wouldn't have sold hardly anything if it didn't have it's singleplayer mode.

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Posted on 10-31-07 01:06 AM Link | Quote | ID: 68883


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In my opinion, it's kind of sad when a game can't deliver a decent single player experience, let-alone depend on multiplayer by itself'.
Shadowrun, Counter Strike...although awesome games, it really does appeal to a small market. This market is growing, which is good. Nintendo need to bloody jump on board, FFS.

You tire of adventure/puzzle games. You're a good man for acknoledging the fact that people feel the same way about your genre of choice. Kudos.

Your agrument about why you like FPSs is exactly the same as mine, except mine is geared towards Nintendo's style of games.
I enjoy the third-person view, yet dislike Gears of War.
Maybe it's a realistic style vs. non-realistic style...who knows.
It might go much deeper than graphical power, and just rely on the style, or "demographic" of the games.
It's incredibly possible that if not for Nintendo's uniqueness...ugh...
If Nintendo were just another fish in the three-fish-pond, they'd lose.
It'd be a repeat of the last generation.

Good on 'em for taking the risk...
...But I really do hate the way they're handling the "hardcore" games. Said games which are to show appreciation to the gamers who got 'em where they are.
Metroid Prime 3's advertising campaign is a main example.
I bet we can expect the same thing for Brawl.

Is watching people play video games with a smile on their faces, meaning reduced screenage of actual gameplay, REALLY that effective at attractive people?
I'm seriously doubting it at the moment...
The advertising campaigns are doing nothing, IMO. The only thing that's selling Wiis is word-of-mouths-'n-feces.
Sure, these commercials slightly what the Wii-mote can do, but...ugh...
I dunno...

We need an unbiased opinion on this...but we'd never get one, as people who hate video games would ONLY be persuaded by playing it themselves (word-of-mouth if you will), or would be consistant in not giving a fuck about it. These commercials do absolutely nothing!

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Posted by cory21391
I prefer Dodge but that doesn't mean Fords aren't good.


FORD IS SUPERIOR

DODGE SUX

STFU


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In my case it's more a matter of which platforms we can actually afford. Sometimes we buy them ourselves, once in a while my parents get one for a Christmas present, but the idea is the same. The Nintendo consoles are usually the cheapest, so that's what we usually end up getting. I don't see us affording a PS3 anytime soon. If I had that kind of money, I'd spend it upgrading my computer or saving it for college or something.

Frankly, I prefer computer games because I always end up getting drawn to certain mods. I'd never play Oblivion without a full complement of them, that's for sure.

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Posted by ShadowTails
I have a Wii now and a lot of the games look promising, the majority of the games that seem to sell on the XBOX 360 and PS3 are going to be FPS, which I flat out hate anything past DOOM 2, I mean, they're all practically the same game, you might not have the same exact weapons or enemies, but it just gets really boring, and few companies try to liven things up with something new...

While I realize someone can counter that statement with saying Platformers are all the same per se but add something to spice it up a bit, but most of the time, when I am playing a Platformer I don't normally find the same exact thing in all of them, there is more verity than shoot and kill, and the major selling point of these FPS is the online multiplayer mode, I'm willing to bet Halo 3 wouldn't have sold hardly anything if it didn't have it's multiplayer mode.
You do realize that your opinion about FPSs is worth nothing on this arguement right? Really, what Crim said.

Posted by ShadowTails
While I think Multiplayer is a great thing to have in games, I don't normally like playing with total strangers, and I certainly don't like playing with those idiots who memorize re-spawn points and hand your ass to you on a silver plater a few thousand times... I think games should be made in the sense that the 1st player mode is good and doesn't require you go online to enjoy the game (which from my understanding is what everyone loves about Halo) While I have only played Halo 1 one time, I fell asleep while playing it... so boring...
I don't get what is so bad about the Halo single player mode. It was fucking win. It's still fucking win. In fact I'll reinstall Halo just to play it.
I still think EVERY game nowadays should have a multiplayer option. Not necessarily online, but multiplayer is a must. We're in 2007 ffs.

Posted by ShadowTails
but I have the slight feeling Metal Gear Solid 4 is going to bring them back up a bit, while I don't think it'll be the systems selling point because that only covers just about the majority of everyone who loves FPS and thinks that's the only true Video Game...
It's not FPS it's MGS. You fucking fail sir.

Posted by ShadowTails
While I've only played the original Metal Gear (and didn't get very far in it) and I don't have a PS2 or anything so I can't play the ones that came out later in 3D, I am a little biased towards Sony because most of the time if I buy something from them it ends up breaking sooner or later, the best thing I've ever bought from them was a CD player that lasted me a good 11 years, I know they have a lot of say in the video game market seeing how they dominated last gen, but I don't see the Wii staying ahead much longer unfortunately, I like the Wii because it's something different, while on the XBOX 360 and PS3 you have people debating which HD looks better because they have the same exact graphical capabilities. Honestly Graphics aren't going to get much better than they are right now, while HD can look nice it's usually wasted on shades of grey, brown, black, ect. I mean... it's not even the slight bit of appealing...
Nintendo fanboy detected. However, let me address that last point you made:
Posted by ShadowTails
while on the XBOX 360 and PS3 you have people debating which HD looks better because they have the same exact graphical capabilities.
God forbid people like games that don't look like utter shit.
Posted by ShadowTails
Honestly Graphics aren't going to get much better than they are right now
You don't know what you're talking about.
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while HD can look nice it's usually wasted on shades of grey, brown, black, ect. I mean... it's not even the slight bit of appealing...
... What? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by ShadowTails
Microsoft is trying to open up to the casual game audience, and most of those games have failed to make any difference. I personally would like to see all the systems take Nintendo's course with casual gaming, not having one platform dominate them all and only have one type of game that actually sells on the thing (check a few sales charts for the XBOX 360, I'm willing to bet the top 5 games, the majority are FPS).
Eh that's not really Microsoft's fault. It's people that only want to buy FPS games for Xbox. Did you ever hear about Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey? Yeah thought so.
And again, lol @ everyone should be like nintendo.

Posted by ShadowTails
To be honest, I hate Microsoft fanboys who put down other systems for no apparent reason. While I'm taking bits of pieces of the systems, I'm not just going to go out and say that "Nintendo is the best and they're going to flat out win this generation. "
I think exactly this same thing about Nintendo fanboy. I've been listening to shit like "The N64 clearly beat the PSX in sales" or "Playstation2 only has racing games" for the past 7 years.

Posted by ShadowTails
while I don't honestly see why anyone should give a flying shit about graphics
Hey not everyone likes to see games looking like the last generation. If graphics never improved, we'd have shitty 12x12 antialiased textures like in the N64. Some people like eyecandy. Get the fuck over it.

Posted by ShadowTails
when the hell did it become a requirement for games to try and look realistic?)
Uhm, how can a game look realistic with shitty graphics?

Posted by ShadowTails
I'm what few people would consider a gamer, at least that's what I consider myself, I was never able to own any consoles till my Gamecube, other wise it was just pick and choose from my emulators... (at least I was able to play good games, and I have a PS1 emulator and love most of the games I've played on it.) I like systems for the games on them, not the system. I actually am considering getting a XBOX 360 or a PS3 if they come out with some games that actually interest me... For now, I'll just stick with my Wii because it's the only thing that isn't living off of FPS.
Nintendo fanboy detected. [2]

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Posted by ShadowTails
while I don't honestly see why anyone should give a flying shit about graphics
Hey not everyone likes to see games looking like the last generation. If graphics never improved, we'd have shitty 12x12 antialiased textures like in the N64. Some people like eyecandy. Get the fuck over it.

If wanking to polygons hadn't become a fad, we wouldn't have had shitty 12x12 antialiased textures like in the N64. Instead, we actually might have gotten a solid full-colour RGBA rendering console with graphical abilities that modern-day consoles are just barely starting to match as an accidental byproduct of bloom and 8xAA.
Before the like last 3 years, people were unable to make 3D games that don't look like shit. The fact they still tried gave us 8 wasted years of gaming history.

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Because making videogames support as many polygons as the SuperFX chip would magically create awesome HDR algos as well as making the cpus and gpus fast enough to render HDR.
Sorry, you're wrong.

Oh yeah if you think every 3D game before 2004 looked like shit, what kind of expectations did you have? You wanted Doom 2 to have real life-like graphics? Then it's your own fault for having such high expectations from a game supposed to run on 486 computers. This is just an example obviously but I'm sure you get my point.

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Posted by ShadowTails

...but I have the slight feeling Metal Gear Solid 4 is going to bring them back up a bit, while I don't think it'll be the systems selling point because that only covers just about the majority of everyone who loves FPS and thinks that's the only true Video Game...



Sony has the Gran Turismo series but what about other people who don't like RTS'? Sucks to be them!

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I like fanboys. They always make me laugh. The only people who take them seriously are other fanboys.

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This should be in the Debate forum *caugh*

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Hm, since it's a Gaming-related debate, it can go in either forum, really. It's fine where it is

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Posted by Sp!t
This should be in the Debate forum *caugh*


yes because this is a serious discussion more serious than other issues in our world mmk?

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