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 Red Paragoomba Level: 20 Posts: 26/64 EXP: 40553 Next: 1886 Since: 02-24-07 From: Playing Super Metroid. AAAAAA nostalgia Last post: 5453 days Last view: 1920 days |
Wowsa. Those are some serious kickass graphics. I really like the forest, jungle castle, switch palace and vine world the best. "Tribal Towers" also looks sweet. Of course, what matters more than anything is level quality - one could still make unbelievable levels with the original GFX - which the levels also appear to have. I'd love to give it a try, looks phenomenal. |
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 Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 140/195 EXP: 215661 Next: 13518 Since: 02-25-07 From: United States Last post: 6049 days Last view: 6050 days |
Posted by Joshua I'm able to slightly modify existing custom sprites, but coding an entire new boss battle is far beyond what I'm capable of. I wouldn't use the SMB1 Bowser sprite as a final boss, but it's still up in the air what I will use. That's a ways off, though. All right, finally decided to do something with the status bar:  
Also, new Thwomps, Boos, and skeletons, I guess. It comes to my attention that the screenshots on my pathetic little website are horribly out of date, so I'm thinking I'm going to go on a photography spree and try to rectify that. Here's something I keep picking at, Goomba graphics: 
The one on top is the one I'm currently using, the bottom one is from my NSMB remake, and the others are in various stages of completion. (There's some of Nintendo's artwork there for reference) Opinions on this? I've been tweaking Mario's graphics a bit. I'm giving him the "friendlier" face from the NSMB remake's Mario sprite and trying to make him look a little more rotund. I've changed his standing frame so that he has his arms are slightly raised up to his side like in most of the official sprites. It seems to animate better that way: 
Actual in-game three frame animation on the left, my desired four frame animation on the right. If anyone can fulfill this request to give Mario more walking frames, it would make the animation so much smoother. (I'm guessing it would be fairly difficult to do, though) Um, more screenies coming soon, I think. |
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 Red Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 107/202 EXP: 226377 Next: 2802 Since: 04-21-07 From: United States Last post: 2422 days Last view: 2383 days |
Posted by icegoomI think that the second-from-right one on the bottom looks the best. It has the least red tones in it (Goombas are now a duller brown than they were in the past) and its head looks about the right width. ____________________ |
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 Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 9/24 EXP: 9244 Next: 1023 Since: 05-26-07 From: Marseille-France Last post: 5999 days Last view: 3005 days |
Icegoom: I've got an final boss idea for you. I'm showing it to you through this fake screenshot:
The Cyclope Star replaces the big Boo. And thanks to the Magikoopa who transforms blocks into Koopas, you have to throw the shell on the Cyclope Star who is the boss. Bowser and Bowser Jr are only obstacles and finally, this boss is similar to the Final Zycloboo of the Second reality project hack. |
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 Shyguy Level: 23 Posts: 71/87 EXP: 64298 Next: 3425 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6122 days Last view: 5728 days |
The Big Boo being the final boss isn't much of a challenge, even with all those obstacles. It did work well in Mario's Return, and SRP II couldn't keep my attention that long. But it's generally anti-climactic. On top of that, I'm not even sure if the eye will work with those graphics. And ripping off another hack in such a manner isn't good (it's fine to rip it off in some ways - but not in that way). |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 144/195 EXP: 215661 Next: 13518 Since: 02-25-07 From: United States Last post: 6049 days Last view: 6050 days |
That's an interesting idea, ristar. It does kind of fit with the ghetto boss set-ups I've already done, where the bosses are normal enemies with level enders and the challenge comes from the room itself. But I'm not big on the idea of only getting four chances to hit the boss and then you're out of luck. (But yeah, there could be more blocks in the room) The Cyclope star wouldn't work with Big Boo's current mirroring, but that's not difficult to fix.
Posted by Mattrizzle87 All right, I'm trying a variation on that one. I switched Goombas over to palette C, which has duller browns than the fiery palette A. Still not perfected: 
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 10/24 EXP: 9244 Next: 1023 Since: 05-26-07 From: Marseille-France Last post: 5999 days Last view: 3005 days |
Icegoom: well, I put four blocks but that's just an idea. You are the creator of the game so you decide how many of them you will put.
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| Stifu |
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 Cobrat Level: 56 Posts: 152/666 EXP: 1361527 Next: 36649 Since: 02-22-07 Last post: 687 days Last view: 309 days |
As for the Goombas... They're all fine, really, but I'd use a mix of the top one (the one you currently use) with the one just below it to the right... I'd use the eyes of the 2nd one, and the mouth of the top one, basically. That's what'd look the best to me, and which would also look the most like the reference Goomba pic. |
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 Chasupa Level: 56 Posts: 32/675 EXP: 1379249 Next: 18927 Since: 05-23-07 From: Kickapoo, Missouri Last post: 5175 days Last view: 5183 days |
Those new Thwomps really look realistic. Much like the ones used in Super Mario 64 DS. ____________________ |
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 Beezo Level: 49 Posts: 308/485 EXP: 846276 Next: 37607 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ontario, Canada Last post: 5459 days Last view: 5459 days |
I really like your background choice for the second screenshot you have shown. It gives off the feel of a haunted canyon, which really ties in with the mood of the level. The fossils and bones are very well done too. ____________________ Want custom overworld music in your SMW hack? Download this. Don't forget to RTFM. |
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Chasupa Level: 56 Posts: 33/675 EXP: 1379249 Next: 18927 Since: 05-23-07 From: Kickapoo, Missouri Last post: 5175 days Last view: 5183 days |
Yeah but he had problems with the background. Some fossils had tile errors. ____________________ |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 147/195 EXP: 215661 Next: 13518 Since: 02-25-07 From: United States Last post: 6049 days Last view: 6050 days |
I wasn't having problems so much as I was just being lazy. Way back when, I assembled the background hurriedly just to see what it would look like without worrying about all the tiles lining up, and then I just left it like that and never bothered fixing it. That's been fixed now:
  
OK, I'm using the old Goomba with the new eyes now: 
The animation still looks a bit wonky to me, but maybe it's the best I'll get with two frames. |
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 Panser Level: 42 Posts: 249/345 EXP: 507722 Next: 13640 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5991 days Last view: 5666 days |
Posted by icegoom To me, it almost looks like his feet are facing the wrong direction. I think perhaps his right foot (his right) although suppose to be the less dominant because it is further from the screen than the left, seems to be acting in a more dominant fashion (catching the eye more). It may be the placement or size. That is what I am guessing might be the problem. |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 57/197 EXP: 219064 Next: 10115 Since: 02-20-07 From: Germany Last post: 2384 days Last view: 934 days |
icegoom, you know, you can actually use 8 frames.  Ever heard of the extended animation feature in Lunar Magic?  It works with sprites, too.  |
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Chasupa Level: 56 Posts: 34/675 EXP: 1379249 Next: 18927 Since: 05-23-07 From: Kickapoo, Missouri Last post: 5175 days Last view: 5183 days |
Looks like the goomba is leaning forwards too much and the torso isn't moving that much. ____________________ |
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Red Paragoomba Level: 20 Posts: 51/64 EXP: 40306 Next: 2133 Since: 05-11-07 From: USA Last post: 5969 days Last view: 5903 days |
Posted by Ice Man Pretty sure that'd use up tile space though, and he has to have room for the other baddies as well. Hmmm.... all the goombas look fine to me, but then again, I'm not picky. |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 148/195 EXP: 215661 Next: 13518 Since: 02-25-07 From: United States Last post: 6049 days Last view: 6050 days |
Yep, I'm already using ExAnimation fairly extensively for enemies with just one frame:
I've currently got room for six more frames of something, I think. (I've been lazy and lumped them all into one file instead of breaking them apart by theme) I'm reluctant to use ExAnimation on enemies with one than one frame because you have to remap them to use one frame for their normal walkcycle. If you have a level with a lot of environmental animation, there might not be room for enemy animations. It isn't a problem for a Bullet Bill to not be animated, but it is for a Goomba. |
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Red Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 119/202 EXP: 226377 Next: 2802 Since: 04-21-07 From: United States Last post: 2422 days Last view: 2383 days |
Posted by icegoomSomething makes it look too jumpy; perhaps it's how both the head and eyes move back and forth. It seems that either the head is too large in comparison to the body, or vice-versa. @ Ice Man:  ____________________ |
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Cobrat Level: 56 Posts: 155/666 EXP: 1361527 Next: 36649 Since: 02-22-07 Last post: 687 days Last view: 309 days |
Posted by icegoom Hmmm, I'm more bothered by the colors... but I guess you can't have the browner ones you showed above. |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 157/195 EXP: 215661 Next: 13518 Since: 02-25-07 From: United States Last post: 6049 days Last view: 6050 days |
So I guess since the previous day's posts got deleted with whatever the heck happened here, I'll re-post my last update. (No sense letting the images languish unused in my imageshack account, I guess)
Blue Switch Palace, new railing for the cruiser, and a new underwater level:  
 
 
Let's see, the last reply I saw to this was from Goldensunboy, who expressed concern that the background was too similar to the castle background from the original game. So yeah, until very recently, I was still using the original castle background for my switch palace levels. I actually tried to draw a dome ceiling, which you can't really see in any of the screenshots because the level doesn't scroll high enough, which might be a good thing with the perspective being all wonky: 
I am thinking maybe I should make the darker columns a tiny bit thinner to indicate that they're slightly further away than the nearer foreground columns. Here's the same background in the yellow switch palace with a different palette: 
Progress-wise, I have one level I want to fix up before I release the demo, so I'm really, really hoping that I'll have a release for you guys soon. (Whatever you want to translate "soon" into) |
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