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Xkeeper
Posted on 08-22-07 07:42 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63001


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073431> +blackhole89> this sleazy little coward always waits for me to get in some difficult access position before he starts blowing up shit
073439> +blackhole89> oh yeah
073439> +blackhole89> who let him in here again

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072701> +blackhole89\laptop> he probably interrupted Acmlm's RO playing until Acmlm decided to give him the password
072706> +Electrometer_Prime> quit blaming people till you have actual proof
072726> +blackhole89\laptop> Electrometer_Prime: quit opening your retarded mouth

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*195242» Acmlm> it's Xkeeper doing it all
*195246» Acmlm> but it wouildn't have happened without me
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*195946» Acmlm> watch blackhole try cleaning the mess tomorrow and ask me what happened
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*200028» Acmlm> "I was looking at MSN logs when Xkeeper decided to watch my screen.php and that's about it lol"
*200028» Acmlm> ah

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[discussing potential destruction]
*203923» ~Xkeeper> then I could put up a real doom timer
*203934» Acmlm> that'd be the official resignation I should have done 3 years ago
*203935» Acmlm> I guess
*203943» ~Xkeeper> is that an agreement?
*203946» Acmlm> you should have taken a backup right before this if you're going to do that though

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*204355» Kles> let's hope the blackhole doesn't have backups stowed away somewhere
*204402» ~Xkeeper> I'm sure he does
*204403» Kles> and that he decides to revive it
*204406» Kles>
*204409» Acmlm> he probably will

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*204524» Acmlm> too bad "make me a local mod!" can't be used to ban myself
*204528» Acmlm> or even demote
("Make me a local mod!" was a link early in the destruction that would instantly local-modize any normal user.)
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*204646» I banned myself

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*204820» Acmlm> sad to see it go like this though
*204821» Kles> it's a sad scene, isn't it?
*204822» Metal_Man88> Woulda been a lot easier had you just moved the forum when BH annoyed you :p
*204823» Acmlm> but it was doomed since last month

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*205508» Acmlm> I'm still somewhat attached to it even though I haven't done anything for it since forever and have no motivation to run it
*205510» Acmlm> anymore
*205510» @Drag> It's *like* Acmlm's Board
*205520» Metal_Man88> Well. There is a few pieces left, but...
*205526» Acmlm> that was like the only thing stopping me from officially making it not "Acmlm's Board"

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*210137» Acmlm> [20:59:50] blackhole89: I understand you want to avoid boarddrama, but following my proposal might be in fact the better choice in that respect right now
*210137» Acmlm> [21:00:45] blackhole89: it's also a bit of a time question since I am bound to go on a 10 day trip related to the maths olympiad to a place where I am likely not to gain internet access
*210138» Acmlm> [21:02:10] blackhole89: and I'd rather have this sorted out at least to a point I can rely on Xkeeper not screwing up my server, the community not breaking apart and not becoming fully assimilated by him before that
*210143» Acmlm> guess which day
*210148» ~Xkeeper> 7/20
*210153» ~Xkeeper> I remember it well
*210153» Acmlm> yep
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*210235» Acmlm> [19:36:48] blackhole89: I informed Emuz and it looks like he is strongly in favour of demoting Xkeeper as well
*210235» Acmlm> [19:36:56] blackhole89: also said he would be willing to help with the staff reorganization
*210257» Acmlm> 00:02:34» (+MillyBot)» Emuz was last seen 23days 22:33:32 ago, quitting: "Quit: Leaving".

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*210850» Acmlm> if either of us had realized the mess it was going to cause
*210854» Acmlm> I'd have said no

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*211137» Acmlm> I don't even care either way at this point, either it's gone or I'm just going to be inactive forever while the neverending drama goes on

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*211316» Acmlm> and then still expect the staff applications to get done
*211324» Acmlm> I was already 2 weeks late
*211402» Acmlm> even if I took the time to read the whole thing, I doubt I'd even be able to make good decisions

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*212449» Acmlm> it still wouldn't be "Acmlm's Board" if blackhole himself ran it to keep it going


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Xenaero
Posted on 08-22-07 07:47 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63002


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Last view: 5242 days 		Why we can't just merge ||board, this and justus into one board is just beyond me. Are you all that fucking dense about this separate board drama bullshit?

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Electrometer Prime
Posted on 08-22-07 07:48 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63003


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Posted by Xaer0
Why we can't just merge ||board, this and justus into one board is just beyond me. Are you all that fucking dense about this separate board drama bullshit?


It was like it before, didn't work, SPLIT

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Xkeeper
Posted on 08-22-07 07:49 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63004


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TheGreatGuy
Posted on 08-22-07 07:50 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63006


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Posted by Xaer0
Why we can't just merge ||board, this and justus into one board is just beyond me. Are you all that fucking dense about this separate board drama bullshit?

Think about what you just said for a second. The communities just aren't compatible, they are too different to merge, and getting Xk and Bh to agree on anything is pretty much impossible.

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Grey
Posted on 08-22-07 07:51 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63007


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(1:46:10 PM) DetectiveGrey: You're all jackasses who're wasting their time doing things that take up energy that could be used to change the world

I don't know how many successes I rolled on my Ugly Truth skill, I'm waiting for another Challenging test to bring it up to a B5.

Nicole
Posted on 08-22-07 07:51 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63008


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Posted by Xaer0
Why we can't just merge ||board, this and justus into one board is just beyond me. Are you all that fucking dense about this separate board drama bullshit?

Why merge them? Oh, sure, there was one board once, and that didn't work out... I don't see any reason to go back.

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Electrometer Prime
Posted on 08-22-07 07:51 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63009


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Posted by TheGreatGuy
Posted by Xaer0
Why we can't just merge ||board, this and justus into one board is just beyond me. Are you all that fucking dense about this separate board drama bullshit?

Think about what you just said for a second. The communities just aren't compatible, they are too different to merge, and getting Xk and Bh to agree on anything is completely impossible.


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Xkeeper
Posted on 08-22-07 07:55 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63011


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Posted by Imajin
Posted by Xaer0
Why we can't just merge ||board, this and justus into one board is just beyond me. Are you all that fucking dense about this separate board drama bullshit?

Why merge them? Oh, sure, there was one board once, and that didn't work out... I don't see any reason to go back.
The foundation and rulesets of all three are pretty much completely incompatible, although board2 and ||board are remarkably similar:

justus: bans handed out like candy, rules enforced
board2: lax rule enforcement, very little actually happens aside from constant warnings
||board: no rules

Basically, they're all at completely different points of the "strictness" scale. Any merger will fall apart.

(And it's part of the reason this one fell apart, as it went from a midpoint between board2 and justus to about where it is now)

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setz
Posted on 08-22-07 08:26 PM Link | Quote | ID: 63036


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Posted by Xaer0
Why we can't just merge ||board, this and justus into one board is just beyond me. Are you all that fucking dense about this separate board drama bullshit?


YES

BEST IDEA EVER

LETS PUT THREE TOTALLY DISAGREEING HEADS AND METHODS OF DOING THIGNS TOGEHTAR FOREVAR

fuck thats an awesome idea, golden for sure.

I propose we get this man on world peace.

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Nick
Posted on 08-23-07 12:35 AM Link | Quote | ID: 63088


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max
Posted on 08-23-07 05:47 AM Link | Quote | ID: 63239


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Posted by setz
Posted by Xaer0
Why we can't just merge ||board, this and justus into one board is just beyond me. Are you all that fucking dense about this separate board drama bullshit?


YES

BEST IDEA EVER

LETS PUT THREE TOTALLY DISAGREEING HEADS AND METHODS OF DOING THIGNS TOGEHTAR FOREVAR

fuck thats an awesome idea, golden for sure.

I propose we get this man on world peace.

||board and this one arent that different, the leaders of both boards (whoever those are) just need to get together and talk about it

i really think the board/s would be better if ||board and this place merged.

GreyMaria
Posted on 08-23-07 05:50 AM Link | Quote | ID: 63240

>implying even the Japanese understand the Japanese
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Posted by max
Posted by setz
Posted by Xaer0
Why we can't just merge ||board, this and justus into one board is just beyond me. Are you all that fucking dense about this separate board drama bullshit?


YES

BEST IDEA EVER

LETS PUT THREE TOTALLY DISAGREEING HEADS AND METHODS OF DOING THIGNS TOGEHTAR FOREVAR

fuck thats an awesome idea, golden for sure.

I propose we get this man on world peace.

||board and this one arent that different, the leaders of both boards (whoever those are) just need to get together and talk about it

i really think the board/s would be better if ||board and this place merged.


Absolutely WRONG, max.

Check the banlists on ||board.

Check the banlists here.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE: ONE HAS SMARTER ADMINS

now stop the drama

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witeasprinwow
Posted on 08-23-07 06:37 AM (rev. 2 of 08-23-07 06:37 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 63254


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Posted by Grey Mario
Absolutely WRONG, max.

Check the banlists on ||board.

Check the banlists here.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE: ONE HAS SMARTER ADMINS

now stop the drama


Because obviously a large number of bans is an indicator of smart admins

obviously

I'm going to get a board to a million members and then ban them all, and then I will be the uber-genius

(The correct answer is that neither is objectively better, or smarter, as much as you may be horrified by the fact that the kids posting "LOL COCKS" over and over again are no dumber than you. We just have different values.)

Kheiz
Posted on 08-23-07 06:37 AM Link | Quote | ID: 63255


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Posted by Grey Mario
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE: ONE HAS SMARTER ADMINS
currently I'm tempted to agree that ||board has the smartest admins.

Flan
Posted on 08-23-07 06:41 AM Link | Quote | ID: 63257


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GreyMaria
Posted on 08-23-07 06:49 AM Link | Quote | ID: 63259

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Posted by Kheiz
Posted by Grey Mario
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE: ONE HAS SMARTER ADMINS
currently I'm tempted to agree that ||board has the smartest admins.


Uh, morons like Legion run around there.

So no.


And do you see an SVG function over there? DO YOU??

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max
Posted on 08-23-07 06:50 AM Link | Quote | ID: 63261


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admin:
bh89
bass
ailure
yde

fm:
drag
setz
zem
wite
nick
kles

lm:
whoever fits the post really

i would put people like knuck and leg on there but really there is too much drama behind them

Xenaero
Posted on 08-23-07 06:51 AM Link | Quote | ID: 63264


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Skreeny
Posted on 08-23-07 06:59 AM Link | Quote | ID: 63265


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Posted by max
admin:
bh89
bass
ailure
yde

fm:
drag
setz
zem
wite
nick
kles

lm:
whoever fits the post really
I don't remember so well, but wasn't that how a lot of the staff was composed for a decent amount of time before the split?

Ignoring that Kles didn't post back then, Zem and Nick got banned (or left) when Xk took over, and that wite was never on staff that I remember.

I always find it interesting when people say that the boards are completely incompatible, given that ||board, this, and Justus all originated in one place. I'm not quite sure how well they'd reintegrate given the directions taken (Xk's iron fist of death and destruction vs. ||board's almost nonexistant moderation), but it could be interesting.

If nothing else, trying to settle that grudge between the two boards would be a good thing in the long run. Absolutely nothing is gained by having both groups sit in their respective treehouses and curse the other out.
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