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Posted on 08-12-07 03:46 AM Link | Quote | ID: 61923


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In older Acmlm's board incarnations, there were a few extra features to make post layouts a little better.

The first of which was that sample posts would include a sample quote. This makes post layouts with modified quotes cooler.

The second of these was the option to remove the little ------- bar from the bottoms of posts. This makes post layouts not end in a stupid little random bar*.

*Though I must admit that I'm getting used to the stupid little random bar, it's almost an aesthetic trademark of this board.**

**Do you really want stupid little -------- lines being the aesthetic trademark of this board?

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One feature I miss is the ability to edit your layout in a post when you edit your post. I often used this to remove the transparency in my layout if I posted an image because the layout also made the image partially transparent.

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Last view: 310 days 		BooUrns: actually, I'm not sure how they did it, but if they made it so layouts are only stored in user profiles rather than in posts too, I think it's better this way... Takes less database space, and updating your layout updates it for all of your posts.

Also, using a somewhat advanced CSS trick, you should be able to have fully opaque text over a semi-transparent background. Doing something like putting the text in a different div than the background, on the right, then position it back to the left.

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Posted on 08-14-07 05:21 AM Link | Quote | ID: 62321


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Last view: 3222 days 		I always liked the non auto updating layouts. It was possible to go into a thread and see the posts as they originally appeared. They don't take up that much space anyway. The 1.9x versions of AcmlmBoard used special tables for post layouts. If the layout for a post matched one of the existing layout text blocks, the post would just refer to the appropriate entry in the table.

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Last view: 310 days 		Yeah, but change one character in your layout, and it's considered a new one...

Anyway, why should layouts have some kind of "history", while avatars and titles don't, for example ?

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Posted on 08-15-07 02:54 AM Link | Quote | ID: 62499


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Layouts are one of the most distinguishing things about a user. It's the first thing I go to when trying to figure out who's talking, personally. Having a history of it is nice. On the other hand, being able to fix something in all your posts at once is nice too.

I like it enough either way not to care which way we end up with.

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Posted by Stifu
BooUrns: actually, I'm not sure how they did it, but if they made it so layouts are only stored in user profiles rather than in posts too, I think it's better this way... Takes less database space, and updating your layout updates it for all of your posts.

Also, using a somewhat advanced CSS trick, you should be able to have fully opaque text over a semi-transparent background. Doing something like putting the text in a different div than the background, on the right, then position it back to the left.
it's called a transparent png and there's no css bullshit involved

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Posted by Kheiz
it's called a transparent png and there's no css bullshit involved

Yeah, everyone knows about PNG-24... Except it wouldn't work with IE6... but yeah, there are probably very few people who use that here. And if they do, they ought to upgrade, so whatever about them.
Working as a webmaster, though, I'm forced to make my stuff work with IE6 (as it's still the most used browser on average), that's why I proposed a more complicated solution in the first place.

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Posted by Stifu

Working as a webmaster, though, I'm forced to make my stuff work with IE6 (as it's still the most used browser on average), that's why I proposed a more complicated solution in the first place.

I never quite understood the hatred towards microsoft among the nerd community until I started serious web development

not just pngs but all the CSS inconsistencies and bugs and IE7 is even crazier and ghghlghlghlg

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Last view: 310 days 		Nah, actually, although IE7 is also quite flawed, it's still much better than IE6, in my opinion... It supports PNG-24, position:fixed, and more pseudo selectors (like :hover for all tags), among other things... It's definitely a step up from IE6, although it's still far behind other browsers.
Something like 99% of the bugs I encoutered with IE7 are also in IE6. I only found IE7-only bugs on very rare occasions, and they were minor.

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Posted by Zem
Posted by Stifu

Working as a webmaster, though, I'm forced to make my stuff work with IE6 (as it's still the most used browser on average), that's why I proposed a more complicated solution in the first place.

I never quite understood the hatred towards microsoft among the nerd community until I started serious web development

not just pngs but all the CSS inconsistencies and bugs and IE7 is even crazier and ghghlghlghlg


but microsoft is the internet nowadays

microsoft invented the internet as we know it

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Last view: 310 days 		Thankfully, IE is starting to sink... And yeah, I'm aware these stats are mostly based on a geek population, which means there are more IE users than that, actually... But it still shows long-term evolutions...

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For me, in that table it also seems more like that IE7 is sucking users from IE6 and IE(people actually still use it?)5 in year 2007. Would be more intresting if the stats was combined for similar browsers, such as all IE browsers being combined.

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Posted on 08-15-07 01:25 PM (rev. 3 of 08-15-07 01:29 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 62603


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Last view: 310 days 		The majority of IE6 users move to IE7, yeah. But if you combine the different IE versions together, you get those figures...

July 2007 - IE: 58.5%
July 2006 - IE: 62.4%
July 2005 - IE: 75.5%

The release of IE7 helped Microsoft slow down a bit the migration from IE to other browsers.

And it's interesting to know the part of IE 6/7 users, rather than having all of them combined, considering IE7 isn't as bad as IE6. But that site could have some kind of "flexible" table, where visitors could combine/uncombine the different IE versions at will. I guess that'd make everyone happy.

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Posted by Stifu
Posted by Kheiz
it's called a transparent png and there's no css bullshit involved

Yeah, everyone knows about PNG-24... Except it wouldn't work with IE6... but yeah, there are probably very few people who use that here. And if they do, they ought to upgrade, so whatever about them.
Working as a webmaster, though, I'm forced to make my stuff work with IE6 (as it's still the most used browser on average), that's why I proposed a more complicated solution in the first place.
PNG-24 is just a standard RGB PNG that IE works fine with

you are thinking of PNG-32 (RGBA) PNG


as a "web developer" it's kind of a shock that you could goof up something so simple

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Last view: 310 days 		Boy, you sure are loud mouthed... I'm calling them PNG-24 because that's what Photoshop calls them, that's it. But if you'd like to draw conclusions about my skills as a webmaster from that detail, go ahead.

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