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Posted on 07-19-07 09:01 AM Link | Quote | ID: 56198


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I think the Favorites function was useful, and it's not there...
Unless I'm really blind...

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I thought it was quite useless... It's something that should be handled by your browser. If you like a thread, bookmark it...
I know that doesn't let you keep your favorite threads on any computer then, but is that really necessary ?

I think we're missing much more vital features at the moment, such as letting users edit the title of their thread...

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Posted by Stifu
such as letting users edit the title of their thread...
Or even letting moderators do it.

I'll do it if I'm still here in a few days. At this rate...


(Although I am not so sure on allowing users to edit their own thread titles any more)

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Posted on 07-19-07 11:49 AM Link | Quote | ID: 56222


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Well, I don't think it's a bad idea to let members edit their thread titles, though I'd suggest to set a limit like letting them edit it ONCE only, so they cannot keep changing it to cause a mass confusion.

if($user=[ttitleedited]=="0"){
$isallowed
}else{
$notallowed
}

or something like that.

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Posted on 07-19-07 12:30 PM Link | Quote | ID: 56226


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If you're really worried about users messing with thread titles, you could go for somewhat-annoying-to-implement workarounds, such as having moderators validate new thread names before they're accepted (users would suggest a new title, and mods would be warned by a little icon or text next to the thread title, then they accept or refuse)...

Or another solution: you could have some kind of list of actions users can do (or profile fields they can edit), and add the possibility for admins/mods to lock/disable some of them for certain users who abused them (o user X can no longer edit the title of his threads, or change his user title, for example)...


Truthfully, though, I don't think people would really abuse it... I've seen no such thing on ezboard, phpBB and the likes...

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Posted on 07-22-07 12:55 AM Link | Quote | ID: 56641


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Posted by Stifu
If you're really worried about users messing with thread titles, you could go for somewhat-annoying-to-implement workarounds, such as having moderators validate new thread names before they're accepted (users would suggest a new title, and mods would be warned by a little icon or text next to the thread title, then they accept or refuse)...

Or another solution: you could have some kind of list of actions users can do (or profile fields they can edit), and add the possibility for admins/mods to lock/disable some of them for certain users who abused them (o user X can no longer edit the title of his threads, or change his user title, for example)...


Truthfully, though, I don't think people would really abuse it... I've seen no such thing on ezboard, phpBB and the likes...

Yeah, having thread title editing would be great.
Not having it is the reason why my NSMB editor thread is stuck with an old title that misrepresents it and doesn't make sense.

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Posted on 07-22-07 02:49 AM Link | Quote | ID: 56664


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As I said before the board went kablooie, thread title editing would be awesome, that way we don't have to bug Ailure/bh to fix it (since there's no editthread.php?).

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Posted on 07-22-07 09:24 AM Link | Quote | ID: 56761


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If thread editing gets implemented, it shouldn't be like on Acmlm Board 1.x, where there's a separate page to edit thread stuff... But in a field at the top of the first post when you edit it, as other boards do it.

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I personally liked it being on a seperate page.... I've seen how other boards do it, but they usually have a wide array of "things" for each post (subjects, icons, etc).

That, and without more work, it would automatically mark any edited thread as having edited the first post.

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Stifu
Posted on 07-23-07 05:20 PM Link | Quote | ID: 57196


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Posted by Xkeeper
That, and without more work, it would automatically mark any edited thread as having edited the first post.

Which I don't really see as a problem. Else you could just change the title anytime without any evidence that it has been edited... So if you add thread editing in a separate page, then yeah, I guess that one page should be mod only.
So you could do both... Although it'd probably be cleaner to have everything in the same place...

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That, and without more work, it would automatically mark any edited thread as having edited the first post.

Which I don't really see as a problem. Else you could just change the title anytime without any evidence that it has been edited... So if you add thread editing in a separate page, then yeah, I guess that one page should be mod only.
So you could do both... Although it'd probably be cleaner to have everything in the same place...
To that point, why allow normal users to edit their threads at all?

It may just be me, but I do not like giving that freedom to users, especially on this kind of forum. Asking a mod is just as easy and worked rather well both here and on the old board.

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Stifu
Posted on 07-23-07 05:29 PM Link | Quote | ID: 57198


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Posted by Xkeeper
Asking a mod is just as easy and worked rather well both here and on the old board.

As you can see from Treeki's post it's not "just as easy", else he would have got his thread title changed. Other examples come to mind, too, like the "Demo 6" thread etc... First, asking a mod takes more time (from you, and for the mod to do the change), and people may want to avoid bothering mods, too.

I can't think of any reason not to allow users to edit thread titles. If people abuse it, just punish them, like you would if they fuck up with their title or signature, or spam the board, whatever.

I don't mean to sound offensive, but if you're that paranoid, why are we even allowed to edit our posts, rather than asking mods to do it for us ? That doesn't make sense to me.

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Posted by Stifu
As you can see from Treeki's post it's not "just as easy", else he would have got his thread title changed. Other examples come to mind, too, like the "Demo 6" thread etc... First, asking a mod takes more time (from you, and for the mod to do the change), and people may want to avoid bothering mods, too.

I can't think of any reason not to allow users to edit thread titles. If people abuse it, just punish them, like you would if they fuck up with their title or signature, or spam the board, whatever.

I don't mean to sound offensive, but if you're that paranoid, why are we even allowed to edit our posts, rather than asking mods to do it for us ? That doesn't make sense to me.
That's because the current administration system is basically retarded and can't do shit.

Beyond that, bothering mods shouldn't be a problem. That's why they're, uh, mods. Hello.

To that end, some of these same forums that allow post editing don't allow it after a single reply has been made in the thread. That and a few other reasons...

Allowing one free title edit would not be out of the question, but allowing complete, unrestricted access to it would be.

But that's under my rules. Blackhole89ism will probably dictate that you will get full control over it just how you want it.

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Posted on 07-23-07 07:06 PM Link | Quote | ID: 57216


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But that's under my rules. Blackhole89ism will probably dictate that you will get full control over it just how you want it.

Sounds good.

Full control is better than zero control, in some cases (especially if it doesn't involve security issues). At least it things would be moving, unlike now. And I don't know what kind of restriction you're thinking of. Not being able to edit a thread title after one reply has been posted sounds stupidly restrictive to me (I'm not saying that's what you proposed).

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Posted on 07-24-07 10:59 PM Link | Quote | ID: 57501


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So to cut down to the essential, make titles editable for everyone, and if someone does stupid things with it, prevent title editing for that user...

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Posted by Stifu
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But that's under my rules. Blackhole89ism will probably dictate that you will get full control over it just how you want it.

Sounds good.

Full control is better than zero control, in some cases (especially if it doesn't involve security issues). At least it things would be moving, unlike now. And I don't know what kind of restriction you're thinking of. Not being able to edit a thread title after one reply has been posted sounds stupidly restrictive to me (I'm not saying that's what you proposed).
No, that's other forums... I think my restriction would allow for one edit (usually for something minor), but any more and you'd need a mod simply to prevent changing it over and over to confuse everyone.

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Posted by Xkeeper
No, that's other forums... I think my restriction would allow for one edit (usually for something minor), but any more and you'd need a mod simply to prevent changing it over and over to confuse everyone.

I can't say I like that idea. Some thread title would ideally need to be updated regularly, too (like when indicating the latest version number of a certain program or game, Demo 6/7/8 is out, whatever).

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Posted on 07-25-07 10:30 AM Link | Quote | ID: 57781

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I think my restriction would allow for one edit (usually for something minor), but any more and you'd need a mod simply to prevent changing it over and over to confuse everyone.
This is where the "abuse=ban" policy comes in.

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Posted on 07-25-07 11:07 AM Link | Quote | ID: 57785


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I agree. Innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around.

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Either way works, I suppose, but I'd rahter implement a compromise that allows a thread's title to be edited ias often as desired after a mod sets it so, otherwise only one edit.

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