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Level: 105 Posts: 2554/2846 EXP: 12033877 Next: 228383 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
*180427» Closing Link: ip72-193-41-219.lv.lv.cox.net laptuna (Killed (OperServ (You are banned from this network: You're rude and obnoxious. You can take a break from EsperNet for five days. To contact EsperNet visit http://www.esper.net/contact.html)))
I had joined #dragonwhatever to ask about why MB was banned on a server that allows bots without reason. I wasted an hour waiting and eventually left with a sarcastic message. Anyway... Needless to say after this (and Millybot: see quote below) ... I'm pretty much ready to leave. Currently considering a) EmuNET all over again, b) Deltaanime, or c) Djbouche's. a) EmuNET: I'm not sure about the longtime stability of it. We'd probably be able to customize it somewhat (I'd hope, with Emuz on it), but I'm not sure if it'd last, and there'd be no users but us. b) DeltaAnime: I just don't like this network in general. To stay connected I have to constnatly ping myself, as well as a general distaste for the network in general. c) DjBouche: I also dislike the bot names here (japanese instead of just "ChanServ"/"NickServ"), and the stability of it also worries me (but not nearly as much). Shrug. Opinions? Oh, and:
I got this when asking about why MillyBot was banned:
But aparrently they don't like people calling them out. Needless to say, I'm ready to move. ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 1062/3965 EXP: 19788379 Next: 268317 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3307 days Last view: 2058 days |
Well, I would go towards emunet, with maybe a backup channel for emergencies on another IRC network. I'm not fond of Deltaanime, and DjBouche's is the least stable of them.
Also with emunet we set the rules as well. As long it doesn't lead to a new forge-tits, we should do fine. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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 Mole Level: 43 Posts: 210/363 EXP: 548145 Next: 16901 Since: 02-19-07 From: Massachusetts/Virginia Last post: 4356 days Last view: 3334 days |
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 Red Cheep-cheep Level: 34 Posts: 160/216 EXP: 251612 Next: 2039 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6092 days Last view: 6074 days |
Posted by Xkeeper I'm leaning away from B, mostly for the same reasons as yours (sans pinging.) Options C or A sound good, though. Also, they way the ops seem to be handling this reminds me of a smaller server I go to. Except on this server, there's a grand total of one op (Brian) who constantly harasses a channel I go to. So that server (Initialized.org) is out of the question, as far as I'm concerned. ____________________ 
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 Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 1531/4792 EXP: 26242365 Next: 182255 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3740 days Last view: 3652 days |
EmuNet sounds good. It doesn't matter that it's only us since it's not like we have public channels now anyway. ____________________ |
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 Beezo Level: 49 Posts: 383/477 EXP: 825688 Next: 58195 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5888 days Last view: 5869 days |
Posted by HydraPheetz I was just about to suggest initialized, since SMW Central's channel is there (as dead as it is...). I have no idea about the social workings of the network nor do I care, so seeing whatever channels move there would agree with me. ____________________ |
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Level: 105 Posts: 2556/2846 EXP: 12033877 Next: 228383 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
From what I hear about initialized now (from Hydrapheetz)... I'm not trusting that one either 
In the short time I've been there I've already been force-joined to some crap channel... ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 1532/4792 EXP: 26242365 Next: 182255 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3740 days Last view: 3652 days |
So I tried to be reasonable with the Espernet people and got this (apparently he thought I was Xk for some reason).
"Your ban is for five days, and it wont be a second shorter. You are RUDE and your fabrication of the truth is disgusting. You felt the need to insult the administration of this network, "20:10 < laptuna> nice to see the admins here are really on the ball" and you can deal with the consequences. Don't like it, don't use our network." Edit: He also completely ignored my question about MillyBot. ____________________ |
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Level: 105 Posts: 2557/2846 EXP: 12033877 Next: 228383 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
Posted by NightKev
wait what ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Co-Founder Acmlm's Board Owner Kafuka.org 3.14159 Error - Pi(e) Not Found. Level: 16 Posts: 3/39 EXP: 19094 Next: 1162 Since: 07-04-07 Last post: 3330 days Last view: 4282 days |
EmuNET'S stability was in direct proportion to the other servers we had. Our bandwidth and stability on my personal server varied because of the connection at the time. Needless to say stability will only be indicated in us, but it should be much better than before.
As for it justing being you guys. That's all well and good but the network can grow as long as new people come in and new channels are built. -Tom ____________________ "You must delete this ROM after 24 hours" |
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Level: 105 Posts: 2558/2846 EXP: 12033877 Next: 228383 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
One thing I was thinking was it just being (for now) two servers, maybe yours and blackhole89's (if he's up for it), just with different IRCops (blackhole89, me) handling the user side of things...
That way you would be relaxed to just network maintainence if you wanted. I just don't want a massive network explosion (here's 7 nodes for 56 users, we'd all better get IRCop status too) like last time and we can keep the IRCop status undre control; two should be omre than enough, especially if it's bh89 and I since we're ususally on at opposite times. I'd just rather not approve anyone who has a server to join the network unless it's needed... before, like I said, we had probably 4-7 nodes and many, many IRCops, which was far too much for the small network we ran. ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 1063/3965 EXP: 19788379 Next: 268317 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3307 days Last view: 2058 days |
After seeing what XK got banned for, espernet sucks. That was hardly offending, it's like the espernet equilant of erkdog... angry at people for no reason. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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Level: 105 Posts: 2559/2846 EXP: 12033877 Next: 228383 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
It's _dave's _dickwaving, nothing more.  ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Co-Founder Acmlm's Board Owner Kafuka.org 3.14159 Error - Pi(e) Not Found. Level: 16 Posts: 4/39 EXP: 19094 Next: 1162 Since: 07-04-07 Last post: 3330 days Last view: 4282 days |
Posted by Xkeeper I am going to be very restrictive, and I am on the same page. I ment let's get users not servers. Two starting out is quite a bit. Assuming blacky jumps on board. ____________________ "You must delete this ROM after 24 hours" |
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Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 1533/4792 EXP: 26242365 Next: 182255 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3740 days Last view: 3652 days |
Well 95% of the users on the IRC server we're setting up will be from Acmlm's, so having Xk/bh as ircops + 1 server/network/whatever = perfect. ____________________ |
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Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 1535/4792 EXP: 26242365 Next: 182255 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3740 days Last view: 3652 days |
Posted by Electrometer PrimeWhat happened there? ____________________ |
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Red Cheep-cheep Level: 35 Posts: 107/221 EXP: 260357 Next: 19579 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 4453 days Last view: 4452 days |
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 Spike Dragon Level: 57 Posts: 620/705 EXP: 1483668 Next: 2260 Since: 02-19-07 From: 
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#rom-hacking is considering moving to irc.darkmyst.org. There's a few pros and cons there, but I haven't gone there myself. Apparently, nickserv doesn't support linked nicknames, so you'd need to register each of yor nicks seperately.
Second, chanserv has to actually be inside the channel, but it has a few more features than esper's chanserv. Dunno. Since I go to #rom-hacking as well, I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to connect to multiple servers. Either way, I never have problems with espernet. The netsplits don't bother me that much. Anyway, whatever server we decide to move to (if we move), I'd also appreciate it if it allowed connections on additional ports other than 6667, because I can't seem to connect to irc servers on port 6667 when I'm at school. I have a feeling I know why and how to fix it, but just to be safe... ____________________  |
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Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 1536/4792 EXP: 26242365 Next: 182255 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3740 days Last view: 3652 days |
Posted by DragThat's going to be an inconvenience for quite a few rohmackers but meh. More features = good. But how are we supposed to get it into the channel ...? Meh. That's not why we're moving (at least, it isn't the main reason, more of a secondary reason). Don't most IRC servers have that? ____________________ |
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