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Xkeeper
Posted on 07-09-07 08:20 PM Link | Quote | ID: 53472


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Posted by Dwedit
You can't use the words "Majority" and "Pay for music" in the same sentence.
Sure you can, as long as you include "don't" in that list.



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Posted on 07-09-07 08:33 PM Link | Quote | ID: 53473


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Posted by Xkeeper
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd rather just get a laptop and a wireless net card from Verison (I believe they have cards that will allow connection to the cell phone network, for internet access wherever) and Skype.

No stupid contracts, an actual useful machine, and a computer that isn't locked down into what Daddy Jobs says is okay to run.

iPhone: $500 (?) + $60 * 2 year contract = $1,940

My one-year-old laptop: $900
SkypeOut and SkypeIn for a year: $60 +$30

Sorry, but, uh, the laptop wins. $1,000 is far too much for a "pocket size" version.
But then again, you wouldn't wanna bring your laptop into the cinema... I know you could and probably would bring the lappy in, but still, it was easier with just bringing the cellphone.

iPhone certainly looks good, but for me, I will get a cellphone based on the features available on it. I got my Nokia N80 last year for about $500 and it serves me good enough Although the WiFi could not match with a lappy, but its sufficient enough for normal web browsing (since I'm not looking for a portable workstation anyway ).

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Posted on 07-09-07 11:03 PM Link | Quote | ID: 53518

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A mobile phone should be able to make calls... that's about it for me.

I got a new phone recently, but only because my old one that I had since elementary school kept shutting off despite a new battery.

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Posted on 07-10-07 02:49 AM Link | Quote | ID: 53560


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Well, the iPhone looks fascinating, but the price... plus AT&T has terrible coverage in the Greater Boston area, so for those times where I might actually need to, you know, call someone...

I heard that Verizon Wireless (which has excellent coverage here) was offered the iPhone exclusivity deal that AT&T got, but rejected it... not sure if that's true or not.

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Posted on 07-10-07 04:38 PM Link | Quote | ID: 53685

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Posted by Ailure
A mobile phone should be able to make calls... that's about it for me...


And, believe it or not, you're a majority candidate in a bunch of phones that I've sold...which is consequently why I really don't make a lot of money in commission off of phones these days in their transition from 'mobile phone' to 'mobile device'. You really can't call these things phones anymore with the abundance of things that it does. A lot of people are so pissed that they can't find a phone below one that has a camera on it because they want to do things old-timey. The basics of the basics phones not only sell a lot but they're usually in the free to cheap area.

That's why I say that getting phones that do what -you- want and not necessarily whatever -everyone else- wants is generally what you do in terms of buying it. But one thing that has made it clear to me in the selling of these items is that people's insecurities about being inadequate with their current 'device' are the only thing that are completely true in the selling of the high-dollar phones and that's why I'll get them and that's why an iPhone will actually sell at the price it's at based off of rich clients that don't know the meaning of the word 'savings account'. The higher, the better. That's when I'll have a day when I make six cell phone sales and bring home close to 100 dollars extra for that day.

Too bad I can't get those every day. I wouldn't have to get the job I'm looking at now.

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I will only buy one of these new-fangled phones when they finally integrate a gun into it. That way, if I dislike somebody across the street... BANG! BANG!

Instant convenience!

Though, really. I only want a phone. If I can't buy a real cell-phone next time I get one, I'm gonna just not have one.

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Posted on 07-11-07 11:16 AM (rev. 2 of 07-11-07 11:17 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 53866

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You can't hook regular headphones into it, I've learned today.

I got to handle one for someone who bought one when they came in (so it seems I found the sole person who bought one; he said they weren't lined out the door or anything when we bought one) wanting a way to plug their phone into their car radio. So any kind of 1/8" plug won't work unless it's specifically built for the device.

Fortunately, he does have the option of using a decent FM transmitter. Too bad that the only one that is reliable enough to give zero interference is the Monster iCarPlay that retails for 80 bucks.

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I'm honestly suprised they don't just offer plain, no-bullshit phones for full price without a contract. I'd much rather have one of those than a ginormous 23000000-color TFT superbright 7" display screen with a toasterized 1337-megapixel camera and MP3 player jazz.

I mean, I'd rather be able to just pay the $50 or whatever it is for a plain phone than get a swiss army cell phone for $20*.


* 2 year contract only

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Posted on 07-11-07 11:20 AM (rev. 3 of 07-11-07 11:22 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 53868

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Uh...X...they do.

But a salesperson isn't going to show you that. They're going to want to see if they can get you into a contract. The better the contract and the better the phone you buy from them, the more they make.

You still have to have some sort of an initial contract to start out with them, however. The smallest you have (until they finally do away with them) is at least a year. That's what I've been told at least; I'm not sure if any Cingular rep would be willing to go without contract but I know Sprint works in such a fashion (you just pay a fucking high deposit and your plan sucks). If it's through Cingular, then it's really a matter of buying the phone that you want via eBay and swapping the chip out of your phone and have someone change the ESN/IMEI and SIM readouts to correspond to your phone. Cingular does like to make random checks on that to see if they match up but there are ways around that security that many people have taken advantage of over the years. That's why eBaying cell phones are so popular these days. People would rather get a new phone via that route than be forced to wait two years to get something at a decent price.

Oh, and not to forget that there is such a thing as Pay As You Go. GoPhones are big for those that can deal with using their phone only a half-hour a month.

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Well, it's a pretty huge deal for AT&T, seeing how they're locked in a very hyped piece of hardware. iPhone have the same problem as the PS3, impressing hardware but simple too expensive for what it does.

Forced contracts are bad. It's common to see phones being sold at a symbolic sum for 1 SEK, while being forced into a expensive monthly price. :/

Heh, makes you wonder how much more expensive it would be without the forced contract.

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Odd, I haven't even heard of a normal phone being sold in forever (other than dumb prepaid ones) and considerable amounts of my family works at Sprint.

Then again, that might also be why they don't have any normal phones

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Posted on 07-11-07 11:25 AM Link | Quote | ID: 53873

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It's very hard to find, but most lie in refurbished phones. RadioShack still prints tags where there are UNACTIVATED prices of the 50 dollar mark. Not that we still sell them; we're told to sell the 'clearance' or 'Manager's Special' items quickly so that we can get new items in. So we're forced to get our old inventory out to keep up with the competition to make our bottom line work. It's just the way sales and their target audience work.

The fact is, you aren't going to find a bare basics phone (for a plan with Sprint/Cingular) anymore. They just don't make them unless it's in a pay-as-you-go account like GoPhone, Tracfone, Virgin Mobile, etc.

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Somehow, I'm not suprised...

Oh well, at least my main consideration for a phone (namely, a car) is gone now anyway, so I guess I can avoid that dumb speedbump for now.

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Only reason I bought one was because it was better than using a landline phone for the price that they were wanting to charge me otherwise. That and I didn't like the possibility of getting overcharged for something I wasn't going to use that much anyways. Only reason I pay phone anyways is the possibility of backup and the fact that I need some way to get on the net (56K; DSL is NOT available).

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Posted on 07-13-07 05:05 AM Link | Quote | ID: 54460

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I completely agree with Xk, which is why I got a nice basic phone with a pay-as-you-go plan. I can see the advantage to having one of those fancy phones that plays MP3s and browses the web and takes pictures and scratches your back, but I have yet to see one I like. A hacked iPhone would probably come close, but I'd need it to have all the camera features my actual camera has (6+ megapixels and optical zoom), so I doubt I'll find one any time soon.

(And I am NOT getting a contract.)

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Eh.

If you hate the service, then you don't need a GoPhone or something, but if you like it and you're overpaying (like I was, I needed it for home/business use) get a cheap rate plan. 39 a month for people our age isn't something that bad for a good plan.

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I have myself a dinosaur of a phone. It works well, as it has no fancy things and has survived being stepped on and frozen while turned on. Yes. I was camping and it froze sitting next to me. Good thing I had a sleeping bag... (Although everyone else got really cold too--only I had a sleeping bag good enough for the weather)




I also have 1576 unused prepaid minutes O_o

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That's a variant off the 6010, right?

A 6010 could withstand a freaking nuclear blast if it wanted to. It's a good phone.

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Posted by Xkeeper
I'm honestly suprised they don't just offer plain, no-bullshit phones for full price without a contract. I'd much rather have one of those than a ginormous 23000000-color TFT superbright 7" display screen with a toasterized 1337-megapixel camera and MP3 player jazz.

I mean, I'd rather be able to just pay the $50 or whatever it is for a plain phone than get a swiss army cell phone for $20*.


* 2 year contract only

That's just because you can't afford the latter though.

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Posted on 07-14-07 07:55 AM (rev. 3 of 07-14-07 07:58 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 54899

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Not necessarily. In my case I don't care for a phone with an MP3 player or camera in it because I already have both of those things and they work much better than any built into a phone will. (6 megapixel camera, hacked DS as MP3 player = support for damn near every format ever created and homebrew. Show me phones with these features?) And (again) because contracts FTL.

The only real upsides to a fancy phone is it takes up less room in your pocket (so get bigger pockets) and if you're using it to play music it can interrupt when you get a call (so use vibrate mode and just pause the damn thing). Meanwhile you have the disadvantages of having all your eggs in one basket and potential difficulty multitasking. (How do you take notes during a call when your notepad is your phone?)
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