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Posted on 06-22-07 05:25 AM (rev. 2 of 06-22-07 05:27 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 47710


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WTF...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19354827/

This is insane...

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Posted on 06-22-07 05:35 AM (rev. 2 of 06-22-07 05:38 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 47713

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Here come a stream of random shots:

Heaven forfuckingfend we get an overkill of book reading!

HAY IT'S NOT GOOD TO BE HOLED UP IN THAT ROOM READING BOOKS ALL DAY!

Hell, ain't that most RPGs?

Not my fault there isn't anything good on TV these days.

In all seriousness, I guess we're all mentally disordered. Guess now we can claim disability.

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Posted on 06-22-07 05:48 AM Link | Quote | ID: 47718

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Please, both of you, be quiet. You are misrepresenting this. As one could plainly see, they are talking about addiction. The people they profile show signs of addiction. The fact of the matter is, people can be addicted to videogames, many people are addicted to videogames, and if you think otherwise, you're just naive. Just because you don't have all that many negative repercussions as a result of your videogaming (or don't realize that you do) doesn't mean no one can. There are people that periodically drink alcohol, and drink responsibly. There are people whose lives are utterly ruined by alcohol. The same is true of any addictive substance, and videogames are no different. All addiction is a psychological illness. So don't go saying this is stupid when they are so obviously right. About damn time, I say.

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Posted on 06-22-07 05:49 AM Link | Quote | ID: 47719


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so... I should stay home because I'm addicted to video games.... but alcaholics have to go places.... sweet.

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Posted on 06-22-07 05:51 AM Link | Quote | ID: 47721


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The addictions they list here are people who put this over other more realistic needs, sure we have a slight addiction to games, but not as serious as this. These people haven't showered for weeks... That stench must really fowl up the room they keep themselves locked up in. For addicts like me, we know our limits, we still do things required of us, then shortly afterwards ruin our eyes with the loveable lasers of amusement.

Although if this did become a mental problem, does that mean I would have to go to the asylum or get insurance money?

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Posted on 06-22-07 05:54 AM Link | Quote | ID: 47722

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Z, glad to see someone else actually read the article. Now, if you became truly addicted to games, then you'd have the same option as anyone else addicted to something, if this motion passes - rehabilitation and therapy.

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Posted on 06-22-07 05:59 AM Link | Quote | ID: 47724


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Oh, so these are like the people in korea that play starcraft 52 hours straight, or the people who play WOW and live off of cheetos.

lol 2 blizzard references.

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Posted on 06-22-07 06:02 AM Link | Quote | ID: 47726

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Posted by tyty210
Oh, so these are like the people in korea that play starcraft 52 hours straight, or the people who play WOW and live off of cheetos.

lol 2 blizzard references.
More proof that you didn't even read the article. Go spam up your post count elsewhere. I do not take kindly to the likes of you in serious threads. Actually, better yet, just leave altogether. I don't think you'll be all that welcome anywhere if you won't even have the decency to educate yourself before you go running your keyboard.

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Posted on 06-22-07 06:36 AM Link | Quote | ID: 47743


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Yeah, I actually read this article, and a few ones similar to it. It seems legitimate in many of the extreme cases mentioned. When you let your infant baby starve to death because you're too busy playing World of Warcraft, I'd say there's a mental problem involved.

Why is it always World of Warcraft though?

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It's funnier that way.

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Posted on 06-22-07 06:52 AM Link | Quote | ID: 47750

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No Alastor, no. I read the article start to finish. I completely agree with you in that such a thing exists. This article does represent that fact no question and I'm not saying that such a thing doesn't exist. I'm just saying WE ALREADY DAMN WELL KNOW AND HAVE FOR A LOOOONG ASS TIME THANKS!

I don't need any more of these statistics flooding my reading material given day-by-day telling me something I don't already know. Great to know what we're researching psychologically these days but at the same time it's nothing new. The way I take it is another venue that someone's going to use against the community as a whole (ala Tack Jhompson) and do something stupid with it.

You can get addicted to practically anything and have negative effects on it. Anything. Tell me something I don't know, please. Like I said, the next thing you know it really will be a disability if we get too out-of-hand with it.

Why do you think parents ground their kids from the vid games only to see their grades improve usually? I mean tell me something the PARENTS don't already know (at least those responsible)...

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Posted on 06-22-07 07:10 AM Link | Quote | ID: 47757

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Great that you already know. You have no reason to complain (much less rant) that its professionally recognition is getting made official, however. You say that anything can be addictive, but video games are a hell of a lot more addictive than other stuff, so please shut up. I would wager that I know much more about this than you do, and I do not like profound ignorance.

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Posted on 06-22-07 07:31 AM (rev. 2 of 06-22-07 07:31 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 47766


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Posted by Alastor
You say that anything can be addictive, but video games are a hell of a lot more addictive than other stuff, so please shut up.


Well, a professional swimmer can get addicted to swimming, a professional football player to football... the human brain can react with certain chemicals to things it enjoys and practically get addicted to anything.

Just that some addictions (such as to sports or exercise) are usually more beneficial than excessive video game playing. And often have physical limitations keeping them under control.

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Posted on 06-22-07 07:41 AM (rev. 2 of 06-22-07 07:46 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 47782

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Oh man, I was going to refute what you said, when I saw this article on CNN.


Outraged community calls for ban on violent books

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Walter Smith, Age 16, killed himself in a school shooting that left 67 injured and 11 dead later Wednesday afternoon. His family is saying that the shooting was likely provoked by his obsession with books.

"It was like he was possessed," Amanda Smith, the boy's mother, said. "He used to be so outspoken, so good, but recently, he started to read more and books. We thought it was strange, but he reacted so violently when we said it might be an issue. Shortly after that, he started visiting the local library for hours at a time. But still, we never thought it would lead to this."

This shooting is the latest of many acts of violence experts say stem from the content of books. Dr. Kim Lee, professor of psychology at the local university, said "There is no doubt that we have on our hands a growing trend of book-related acts of violent crimes. A small but insignificant portion of our youths are being corrupted by these evils."

Walter's favorite book genre was military science fiction, particularly the works of the best-selling author Tom Clancy. His parents are considering joining a class-action lawsuit against Mr. Clancy. More information on this story is forthcoming.

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


I guess I was wrong.

Wait, no, I made that up because that is a stupid assertion. While you CAN become addicted to anything, videogames, because of their greater level of immersion than other media, of are far more likely to provoke a psychological dependancy and addiction.

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Actually, I did read this story once about a rich guy who practically ruined his life and the lives of those around him because he was obsessed with trying to buy every book ever made.

I can't remember the name of the person though... it was from an earlier century.

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People can get hooked on anything. ANYTHING.

It's just the extent and severity of the addiction that's the problem; video games seem to get it worst.

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Posted on 06-22-07 08:54 PM Link | Quote | ID: 48444


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Why the fuck would you create a thread like this? WE ARE ALL GAMERS HERE. If you don't like games or people that play games then LEAVE. Yes, people can get addicted to games, just like anything else in this world. Most of us here probably ARE addicted the games. I know I am. And you know what? I like that I am addicted to games. I hope I always stay addicted the games.

I have lost and gotten jobs because of games. I have made and lost friends because of games. That's fucking life. If your not addicted to this, its that. Live with it. And stop posting crap we all already know about.


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Posted on 06-23-07 02:58 AM Link | Quote | ID: 48670


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Posted by Alastor
Please, both of you, be quiet. You are misrepresenting this. As one could plainly see, they are talking about addiction. The people they profile show signs of addiction. The fact of the matter is, people can be addicted to videogames, many people are addicted to videogames, and if you think otherwise, you're just naive. Just because you don't have all that many negative repercussions as a result of your videogaming (or don't realize that you do) doesn't mean no one can. There are people that periodically drink alcohol, and drink responsibly. There are people whose lives are utterly ruined by alcohol. The same is true of any addictive substance, and videogames are no different. All addiction is a psychological illness. So don't go saying this is stupid when they are so obviously right. About damn time, I say.



The difference between alcohol and video games of course being that if you drink an extreme amount of alcohol due to addiction you could actually die from simply stopping or trying to solve the problem yourself.


Though of course I agree that it is possible to get addicted to games and well, any rewarding activity because this is something we already know.

I would like to quote the article though.


Dr. Michael Brody, head of a TV and media committee at the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, agreed. He praised the AMA council for bringing attention to the problem, but said excessive video-game playing could be a symptom for other things, such as depression or social anxieties that already have their own diagnoses.

“You could make lots of behavioral things into addictions. Why stop at video gaming?” Brody asked. Why not Blackberries, cell phones, or other irritating habits, he said.


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Posted on 06-23-07 06:00 PM Link | Quote | ID: 48914


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Posted by AlexAR
Why the fuck would you create a thread like this? WE ARE ALL GAMERS HERE. If you don't like games or people that play games then LEAVE. Yes, people can get addicted to games, just like anything else in this world. Most of us here probably ARE addicted the games. I know I am. And you know what? I like that I am addicted to games. I hope I always stay addicted the games.

I have lost and gotten jobs because of games. I have made and lost friends because of games. That's fucking life. If your not addicted to this, its that. Live with it. And stop posting crap we all already know about.




Okay, first, I didn't agree with that article from the beginning. I'm a gamer too. Read my post, and you'll see "WTF..." Obviously showing I don't agree with it. Now I kinda agree, people can get addicted to video games.

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Please, both of you, be quiet. You are misrepresenting this. As one could plainly see, they are talking about addiction. The people they profile show signs of addiction. The fact of the matter is, people can be addicted to videogames, many people are addicted to videogames, and if you think otherwise, you're just naive. Just because you don't have all that many negative repercussions as a result of your videogaming (or don't realize that you do) doesn't mean no one can. There are people that periodically drink alcohol, and drink responsibly. There are people whose lives are utterly ruined by alcohol. The same is true of any addictive substance, and videogames are no different. All addiction is a psychological illness. So don't go saying this is stupid when they are so obviously right. About damn time, I say.



The difference between alcohol and video games of course being that if you drink an extreme amount of alcohol due to addiction you could actually die from simply stopping or trying to solve the problem yourself.

It's the difference between physical and mental addiction.

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