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| Main - Computing - XP or Vista? | New thread | New reply |
| Smallhacker |
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 Panser Swedish weirdo times eleven Level: 42 Posts: 120/339 EXP: 494714 Next: 26648 Since: 02-19-07 From: Stockholm, Sweden Last post: 5191 days Last view: 5190 days |
I'm most likely going to buy a new computer, but I'm having problems deciding if I should try to get XP or Vista.
XP has always worked well enough for me and is compatible with nearly anything. All Vista's criticism sort of scares me and I dislike some of the changes they made to it. Also, there's probably a lot of programs that are incompatible with Vista. However, XP is old and developers will move onto Vista and ignore XP, making pretty useless within two years or so, forcing me to upgrade anyway. So... What should I do? 1) XP: What I'm used to and that which currently works, but not in the future. 2) Vista: What I dislike and doesn't work, but will work in the future. 3) Linux: Uh... Maybe some day. 4) Whatever Mac's OS is called: No way! D:< ____________________   |
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 Boo Level: 68 Posts: 682/1036 EXP: 2642841 Next: 85959 Since: 02-19-07 From: It is a mystery. Last post: 5728 days Last view: 5728 days |
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 Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 1181/4792 EXP: 26242717 Next: 181903 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3740 days Last view: 3652 days |
A) Get XP and wait until you have to get Vista (by which time it MIGHT work)
B) Get Vista and put up with the crap until it's fixed C) Get a Mac (recommended, although I hear they are more expensive than PCs) ____________________ |
| Katelyn |
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beh Level: 86 Posts: 1702/1816 EXP: 6132856 Next: 9251 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 6152 days Last view: 6152 days |
Beh, just get a Linux with KDE. It's the kutest thing for your komputer. 
(yeah, I know, it's spelled cutest and computer) |
| Black Lord |
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 Red Cheep-cheep Level: 35 Posts: 99/220 EXP: 258621 Next: 21315 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5427 days Last view: 5427 days |
Posted by Katelyn Okay, I'm a big Linux person myself, but it's just not for the everyday user, especially if they're fond of proprietary software not available to Linux users. Posted by NightKev Honestly, I hate M$ just as much as the next person, but in all honesty, Vista isn't as bad as people have made it out to be. It's the first time I've installed a M$ OS without having to go driver searching after the install. It's actually takes advantage of the modern pc rather than letting resources going to waste... I'm just going on the record saying that Vista isn't as bad as a lot of people make it out too be. As far as compatibility issues are concerned... I believe that there is a previous versions of Windows emulator for apps that may not be compatible built into Vista. None of the apps I ever when in a Windows environment have any compatibility issues with Vista, plus most OS's now are pre packaged with it anyway so that may be the easiest route for you. ____________________  |
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 Paratroopa Level: 30 Posts: 60/155 EXP: 152674 Next: 13195 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 6051 days Last view: 6000 days |
In response to the wise apples who suggested using non-Windows OS's, I remind you that one of Smallhacker's concerns is compatibility for the software he uses.
As far as user support is concerned, Microsoft responding to a "My long-loved software doesn't work right on Vista" report sounds FAR more likely than them listening to "This new Vista-only software won't run on XP." If compabilitity and support is an issue, I recommend using Vista. If you are willing to jump into the deep end and try alternate solutions altogether, then I recommend using anything else but Mac OS. (-: |
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Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 1184/4792 EXP: 26242717 Next: 181903 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3740 days Last view: 3652 days |
Posted by GuyPerfectLIES MAC BEATS ALL ... Get a Mac and put Windoze on it. Problem solved. You get a good computer + if you need to use something that's Windoze-only then you have no problem because you also have XP or Vista or whatever. ____________________ |
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 Spike Dragon Level: 57 Posts: 524/705 EXP: 1483688 Next: 2240 Since: 02-19-07 From: 
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To be completely honest, Vista seems like an incomplete OS. It might just be me, but there doesn't even seem to be a logo for it. (Startup is blank, just has the progress bar thing and the copyright, and the "Windows Logo" screen saver is blank).
Not to mention, there are countless bugs. One of the bugs I encountered with my mom's new computer is when it uses certain screensavers, the monitor never goes into standby mode... it just "wakes" back up. 
Not to mention, Vista has issues with certain hardware, not just software. For example, if you hook into a router, Vista may not like it. I'd say stick with XP (which seems to be hard nowadays, you'll probably need to manually install it) until Microsoft completes Vista and gets the bugs worked out of it. ____________________  |
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 Mole Level: 43 Posts: 270/366 EXP: 554984 Next: 10062 Since: 02-19-07 From: 
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Smallhacker, get XP, and wait till vista is at SP2 to get it.
I can't explain other than how the others have explained it. < ____________________  |
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Done. Level: 79 Posts: 857/1471 EXP: 4471713 Next: 107754 Since: 02-19-07 From: ??? Last post: 6092 days Last view: 6085 days |
Too bad that product support ends for Win2K Pro in 2010 or I would've recommended that. Stupid Microsoft Lifetime Policy.
Windows XP. Vista blows unless you need to use something DX10 exclusive...which doesn't exist. I say this with the fact that having Vista is pointless as of now...it may not be 'the worst OS ever' but it's mostly not worth the time. |
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Gone Level: 88 Posts: 1794/1881 EXP: 6465305 Next: 185359 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6152 days Last view: 6143 days |
Posted by Black Lord That's why I dual-boot. On the Windows side, I'd stick with XP until the bugs are ironed out of Vista, although I have a feeling I'll get Vista courtesy of Ripoff University this summer along with a new laptop. (Even with the perks, it's still a ripoff. The laptops are pieces of junk.) |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 921/3965 EXP: 19788643 Next: 268053 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3307 days Last view: 2058 days |
I went with XP because I heard of horrible bloated Vista is. And DX10 dosen't seem to be worth it enough.
Also I'm considering to put Ubuntu on my laptop. Becuse I realized I hardly play games on my laptop, and most of the programs I use work well, or even better in Linux.  ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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| DarkPhoenix |
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 Micro-Goomba Level: 12 Posts: 6/19 EXP: 6514 Next: 1407 Since: 05-24-07 Last post: 5306 days Last view: 5293 days |
First off:
- If money's an issue at all, and you're buying a pre-made PC, go with Vista, it'll be cheaper in the end to get it bundled with the PC. - If you're seriously worried that compatibility is going to be an issue, do what businesses do, wait for Service Pack 1 to be released before diving in. - If you're looking for new features, they aren't here. For a fresh out of the oven OS, Vista's about as tepid as they come. But do keep in mind, until Linux decides to stop being geekware at its core, resistance is futile. I'm running Vista Business x64 right now, it shouldn't get less compatible than that. For the record, my only major compatibility issue has been my crazy ghetto GBA EZ Flash Advance card's cable, because of unsigned drivers. That's easily fixed with VMWare. Everything else has mostly been solved by downloading a no-longer-included DLL or something. As far as bloat, it hasn't noticeably effected anything, even in this quite mediocre machine. And I'm one of those guys that keeps his desktop clear of icons just to make sure windows boots up faster. But honestly, the only new features I really care about, you can pretty much get from Google Desktop (or, if you're willing to do some coding, Samurize is more flexible). Alternatively, if you really like pretty things, money is no issue at all, and you don't mind paying $3000 (+the cost of windows) for a $1000 PC that you won't really be able to upgrade without buying a brand new PC, then go for a Mac. OSX is actually pretty cool. But I'd imagine if that were the case, you'd've referred to your intended purchase as a "laptop", rather than a "computer". |
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 Snifit Level: 38 Posts: 112/277 EXP: 364718 Next: 5729 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 5801 days Last view: 4337 days |
Posted by Ailure That's funny because dx10 would be the only reason I would get vista. This is a concern for me as well when I build a new system. Do you think Dx10 will run on any other OSes? |
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... Level: 73 Posts: 799/1220 EXP: 3368416 Next: 117452 Since: 03-25-07 From: no Last post: 6097 days Last view: 6081 days |
I'd have to say stick with XP as long as possible. By then both Vista and Linux should have improved considerably. (I'm expecting a good deal of XP users migrating to Linux, prompting improvements to Wine and similar programs. Vista should be at SP1.) Then try Linux and see if you like it. If not, get Vista and try again later. |
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Paratroopa Level: 30 Posts: 63/155 EXP: 152674 Next: 13195 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 6051 days Last view: 6000 days |
I know this post will be posted in vain, but...
Linux is just the kernel. An operating system is made up of the software you run on it. The bash command prompt in and of itself is installed to the computer in order to make the kernel useful. OS's are the whole deal, like Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc. Calling Linux an OS is like calling Text a newspaper. Part of the way there, but only a part. |
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Spike Dragon Level: 57 Posts: 527/705 EXP: 1483688 Next: 2240 Since: 02-19-07 From:
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Posted by GuyPerfect Picky! Whenever people say "Linux", their intention is "Linux-based operating system". If everyone called Linux-based operationg systems by their names, we'd have like 500 different operating systems. It's for simplicity's sake. It's like saying "I photoshopped this image" instead of saying "I enhanced this image using Adobe® Photoshop® software". ____________________ |
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... Level: 73 Posts: 801/1220 EXP: 3368416 Next: 117452 Since: 03-25-07 From: no Last post: 6097 days Last view: 6081 days |
OK then, smart guy.
Posted by HyperHacker God dammit Notepad's replace function cut off my list. >: |
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Micro-Goomba Level: 12 Posts: 7/19 EXP: 6514 Next: 1407 Since: 05-24-07 Last post: 5306 days Last view: 5293 days |
Funny how no one's asked what he intends to use the system for.
For that matter, whether DX10's even an issue. Moreover, .Net 3.5 will probably be backported to XP, and mono's getting better and better. But, for the linux and mac fans, he did say right off the bat: 3) Linux: Uh... Maybe some day. 4) Whatever Mac's OS is called: No way! D:< I suppose this thread's as good a soapbox as any, though. |
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 Red Goomba Level: 16 Posts: 8/39 EXP: 19301 Next: 955 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 5908 days Last view: 5902 days |
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