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| Main - Computing - DirectX 10 CPU | New thread | New reply |
| Jin Dogan |
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 Snifit Level: 38 Posts: 109/277 EXP: 364720 Next: 5727 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 5801 days Last view: 4337 days |
I know that the CPU is very important in a system and it's also quite hard to tell which is the best and what to look for. Hopefully I will be able to buy parts for a new computer by the fall for directx10 games and other high end graphics games(my current video card is only a radeon x800). I need some help in what I should look for. I've seen that dual core processors can run anywhere up to $900. It's really confusing for me and I'd appreciate any help. Thanks. |
| BMF54123 |
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 Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 289/375 EXP: 575582 Next: 35703 Since: 02-19-07 From: [citation needed] Last post: 6092 days Last view: 6092 days |
My Athlon 64 X2 4200+ cost me a little over $100. I dunno where you're getting $900, unless you're looking at high-end Opterons or something.  ____________________ [citation needed] |
| Hiryuu |
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Done. Level: 79 Posts: 858/1471 EXP: 4471746 Next: 107721 Since: 02-19-07 From: ??? Last post: 6092 days Last view: 6085 days |
He wants bleeding-edge apparently.  |
| Jin Dogan |
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Snifit Level: 38 Posts: 110/277 EXP: 364720 Next: 5727 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 5801 days Last view: 4337 days |
Ok, like this one right here:
is 1295. But I can't tell it apart from this one which is a little over 100. |
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 Shyguy Original user deleted Level: 24 Posts: 6/94 EXP: 72094 Next: 6031 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 6257 days Last view: 6257 days |
Wait, what? Those two CPUs are not similar, not at all. Different companies, one is 2.93 Ghz per core, the other is 2.6 Ghz, and the intel is a quad-core, the other dual, how can you not tell them apart? Also, the specifications tab is your friend, it lists everything. The intel one is rediculously more powerful than the athlon one. Which is why it costs around 9X as much. Maybe I misunderstood, but those two, are completely different. |
| Hiryuu |
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Done. Level: 79 Posts: 870/1471 EXP: 4471746 Next: 107721 Since: 02-19-07 From: ??? Last post: 6092 days Last view: 6085 days |
Top:
Quad-core @ 2.93GHz -No- Hyper-Threading Support. Larger L2 cache by a margin of 4:1. Which I guess isn't surprising. No processor fan or cooling system...and for something that powerful, it's gonna need quite a bit. Bottom: Dual-core @ 2.6GHz 5200+ (better than BMF's) Hyper-Transport supported. Comes with heatsink and fan. More. Than. Enough. I would seriously be on that bottom one 100x more than the top. |
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Shyguy Original user deleted Level: 24 Posts: 7/94 EXP: 72094 Next: 6031 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 6257 days Last view: 6257 days |
I never mentioned that the intel was a better deal, not by a large margin, it has more brute-force, but that's about it. Free cooling is always good, and so is hyper-threading. It would run faster, but it's not worth it. I should have mentioned that. *is an idiot.* |
| Hiryuu |
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Done. Level: 79 Posts: 872/1471 EXP: 4471746 Next: 107721 Since: 02-19-07 From: ??? Last post: 6092 days Last view: 6085 days |
I didn't see your post.
Honestly, the top one would beat it out...but it's cost-effectiveness; the top one doesn't have it and it's ludicrous to pay 1300 bucks for a block when you have something that costs 100 and does the job -and- has all the extras to go with it. Which ironically makes the lesser model a superior product. |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 922/3965 EXP: 19788789 Next: 267907 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3307 days Last view: 2058 days |
Hey, I have that 2.6 GHZ dual-core processor.
It's great. I probably would recommend buying it over the overly expensive one. I yet have to get into a situation where my CPU is the bottleneck. And it being dual-core is just pure awesome...
I don't really think that the other processor is 9x more powerful as someone say. Also multicore processors only benefits when there's several threads that requires lots of CPU time. Dual-core helps lots performance wise as a thread can go really greedy without slowing down the system but... I'm not sure if Quad core makes really that huge difference as dualcore does. Very few programs are pure multi-threaded for some reason... (come on, it's not really THAT hard programming-wise) ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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| Xeon |
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 Red Paratroopa Level: 31 Posts: 93/174 EXP: 181663 Next: 3700 Since: 03-09-07 Last post: 6026 days Last view: 3228 days |
I hate to say it, but if you plan on running DirectX 10 games, its not just the processor you should be worrying about, its the video card. Your going to need to get a new video card, one that supports the new DirectX 10 pixel shaders.
Although I wouldn't buy ATI...they have fucked me over many times in the past, and I know not to buy from them anymore. Posted by Ailure I beg to differ, implementing multi threading correctly is sometimes a nightmare of biblical proportions. |
| Jin Dogan |
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Snifit Level: 38 Posts: 114/277 EXP: 364720 Next: 5727 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 5801 days Last view: 4337 days |
Posted by Xeon Well yea, but my current cpu can't support the games, it barely runs some of the ones out now. ATI's 2900 XT HD is cooler than the nvidia 8800 series but I think I can wait until heat isn't so much of an issue. |
| Hiryuu |
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Done. Level: 79 Posts: 882/1471 EXP: 4471746 Next: 107721 Since: 02-19-07 From: ??? Last post: 6092 days Last view: 6085 days |
Just have a couple gigs of RAM and the shaders necessary with a decent size RAM on the chip and hope the hell it cools well enough.  |
| Jin Dogan |
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Snifit Level: 38 Posts: 115/277 EXP: 364720 Next: 5727 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 5801 days Last view: 4337 days |
You mean make sure I have the latest shader software for the video card?
2 GB DDR2 is fine, right? |
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 Panser Level: 42 Posts: 123/348 EXP: 513107 Next: 8255 Since: 03-26-07 Last post: 4167 days Last view: 2118 days |
2 GB DDR2 should be fine. I have that amount myself.
It isn't a 'software' issue, ATI was late adopting Shader Model 3 in their hardware. Any program requiring it won't run on the x700/x800/x850 family for example. ____________________  |
| Jin Dogan |
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Snifit Level: 38 Posts: 116/277 EXP: 364720 Next: 5727 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 5801 days Last view: 4337 days |
Ah, and DirectX10 uses Shader 4. |
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