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Posted on 06-06-07 02:26 AM Link | Quote | ID: 42766


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Ok, so Facebook recently added 'applications'. Basically, it has a library of apps that people make and send, and you can add the apps to your profile. It's just like any other module on your profile (like photos, notes, etc), and it's fully integrated into the system.

Now, I found an app called Audio. Audio uses Facebook's built-in mp3 player, and it's a section in your profile. You upload the song yourself (for now), and you give it the link, and the player will play it. Autostarting is impossible. I like Audio better than the others, because I can upload whatever song I want. So I can make a song, and upload it, and have my own compositions on my profile, as opposed to the other apps which work like MySpace.

Now, some huge douchebag comes into the discussion board and advertises his own audio app, and here's the thread. I've removed everyone's last names.


Stephen (this is the zMedia dev):
[Link to the app]



Cal:
You don't even have a screenshot or description. Give me a break.



Stephen:
ha, yeah i don't... is a screenshot really the important part? you can see it when you add it...anyways, added a screenshot to make you happy.



Ok, before we go farther, let's do a comparison.
This is audio (image)
and this is zMedia (image)

Which do you like better?


Chris:
no its not



Cal:
Thanks, but yours isn't better.



Stephen:
You must be a personal friend of the developer of audio then, because mine clearly has more functionality. All Audio does is put a simple facebook-created mp3 player in your profile, and the songs have to be URL's that are created by other users.



Ok wait... just Cal doesn't like Stephen's app, Cal must be a personal friend of Audio's dev? Ego! "You don't like zMedia? Oh you must be a friend of Audio's dev, because NOBODY won't like my app hahahahaha "


Jaspreet:
are you retarted, all anyone needs to know is how to host mp3's (takes 10 seconds with gmail), and as far as functionality goes they do exactly the same thing, and...

your app doesn't follow the facebook style (it's like a red blob on the page)



Wes:
You spelled "retarded" wrong.

There's always one of these guys...


Stephen:
Exactly, that is all anyone needs to know... anyone can recreate 'audio' in minutes.



That is all you need to know to put a song in your profile like audio does... takes a genious, i know.

and mine does have more functionality. mine has an entire music player- a library where you make a playlist and listen to it and save the playlist (multiple if you want).. I'd say thats a bit more functionality then just having the fb:mp3 player in your profile. You're clearly another personal friend of the developer of Audio, and immature if you're going to try and talk crap to another developer.



Ok stop. In order to set the song you want his app to use, you load the page (which takes a LONG time to load), and the page lists ALL of the songs currently uploaded (probably why it takes so long), with a "set song" button next to each one. The font is big too, so it's a big page, both filesize and spatially.
Needless to say, Audio's system is a lot more organized, and looks a lot more professional, the options are categorized into tabs, like the rest of Facebook, you can keep track of all the songs you added (and you can remove songs you added too), songs others have added, etc.
Also, another case of "You don't like my app you must be personal friend of audio's dev cuz noone should h8 my appz lol"


Nolan:
If you want people to get your player, you should probably make more information about it available. Is it based of a pre-existing library or do you upload your own music to it? How do you add music to your player or library? Can you have more than one song on your profile at a time? The only things listed is a screenshot (with a design that doesn't mach the Facebook theme, which is a strike against it already), and a vague idea of what it does "Play Music in facebook."

Your program may very well be better than Audio, but you don't offer any reasons why, or any features at all on the page for your application. Audio is far from perfect, which is why, though I have the application, I don't have it on my profile, because as of right now it still doesn't have all the features I want. But at least I know what it does have to offer, whereas with yours, I don't.

You're on a social networking site where the majority of people don't know you. You can't just say "My app is the greatest! Get it!" You have to show people why.



Stephen:
Haha... thanks for a more mature reply

You're right, I don't give much of a description... but it takes about 5 seconds to add it, and another 5 seconds to delete it. And the short description I do have is really all that is needed, haha. The profile functionality is basically the same as Audio's is, with the change in appearance (you may not like it, but many other people like it better than plane). However, you don't have to give a URL to add your music, you can simply copy a file into the library over ftp server.

Also, like I said previously, I have a music player site with playlist functionality. This is available off of facebook, so if you dont want to spend 5 seconds to add and 5 seconds to remove the app... anyone can use this without needing to use the facebook app....

http://zakula.homeip.net/music.php


That site is just...
Did a 15 year old create it?



David:
Seeing as audio has almost 500,000 users, this knobhead decides that he'll promote his ZMedia crap, fully knowing that it's functionality and popularity as less than that of Audio.

Fucking idiot



Stephen:

Haha, wow, you're real cool. The functionality of my app is much better than Audio... thats without question, so you can't really argue that, "fucking idiot". Yes, Audio is clearly more popular than mine, because its been out quite longer than mine and has more exposure.. I just created mine and it has not been exposed to anyone until yesterday.

You high school kids are very immature



Chris:

That's ironic, because I find shilling your own application in the the competition's forum to be a bit immature.

The functionality of your player is fine, but the design (as stated before) is less than desirable. If you want people to use your application rather Numair's, I recommend that you stop being an ass and actually do something pro-active: re-skin your player.



Candie:

This entire forum is SWEET. You guys all talking crap is pretty much amazing, and made me chuckle. More than once actually.

If you wanted my opinion, which I am sure you don't... I think the graffiti application is better. It's pretty and filled with color. =]

Yay for color!



Stephen:

Haha, thanks Candie
And of course I wanted your opinion.
opinions and criticism are always welcome as long as they are mature


It will become very obvious that Candie is a personal friend of zMedia's dev. (also the only one not bashing it... coincidence?)



Stephen:

By the way, Chris, I don't really consider Audio to be 'the competition'. I'm not trying to beat out Audio and get more users, or anything of the sort. I could care less... I just thought I'd throw my app out there for people that may like it better... which many appear to. If you like Audio better, by all means keep using Audio... but if you like mine better, than your welcome to use it.



James:

If you don't consider Audio to be the "competition" then don't advertise your application here under the topic name: "My audio app is better ." You're just asking for attention, the very notion that you say your app is better indicates you are using Audio as a basis of comparison to your own app. This, along with the fact that both applications do pretty much the same thing strongly implies that ZMedia and Audio are natural competitors.

Case in point: nt



Stephen:

Haha. you humor me. The topic name is 'my audio app is better .' because in my opinion, it is. Yes, in my opinion, I was using Audio as a basis of comparison, because in my opinion, it is better. In YOUR opinion, it may not be better, and in your opinion you may think of audio and zmedia as natural competitors... but that really isn't a matter of opinion, because being the developer of zmedia, i am telling you that i do not consider audio as a competitor. Its up to the users what they want... I really made my app for myself and some friends... I could care less if anyone else uses it or not... but I thought I'd throw it out there for others that may like it better than Audio. If you particularly don't, that's cool- don't use it. But don't talk shit like you know what you're talking about. Audio has nearly half a million users, ZMedia has 100 users............ tell me where you get the idea of competition?


I love how he thinks everything is a joke. I mean first, he didn't want to add a screenshot or a description to his app's main page (the page where you decide whether or not you want to add it to your profile), and he's expecting everyone to just be content with adding his app, seeing if they like it, and if not, removing the app, which is something *NONE* of the other app devs do.


Joanna:

not to be rude or anything, posting on SOMEONE ELSE's audio forum a topic entitled "My audio app is better " and expecting a mature response is like walking up to someone and saying "hey mine's is bigger " and expecting a mature response.

If you made an audio app, that's great, man, but find some other way to promote it. This method just makes you look like an ass.

ps, Shouldn't there be rules against these kinds of posts or something?



Salar:

If I take a shit and say my shit is better than your shit that doesn't necessarily make my shit better now does it?



Sheldon:

I think you definitely need to chill out here. If people want to use your audio app, terrific! If they prefer this one, terrific! Either way, I doubt this is REALLY affecting your life at all and the countless posts that you keep repeating yourself in need to stop. Arguing about something as little as a Facebook application is just ridiculous to me.



Matt:

Audio > ZMedia

/discussion



Stephen:

haha, sheldon - thats exactly what I've been trying to say. These other people keep aimlessly arguing and putting words in my mouth



Will:

Testicles... that is all.



Numair (This is Audio's dev):

This guy keeps replying to stuff you guys post on here to move his topic to the top of the page. It's sort of ridiculous that he has to use this page to advertise, and I'm going to remove this topic once I have moderation on the discussion forum this week. For now, try not to reply. And as for the original poster - you're being utterly rude.



Stephen:

Haha, WOW, you are really full of yourself. I keep replying to move my topic to the top of the page? Are you kidding me? You can remove this topic right now for all I care. Using this page to advertise? Like I said... I don't have any competition, I don't care if I have only 5 users. In fact, the fewer users, the better. Ridiculous that I post on this page? The whole purpose of posting here was to give them an alternative they may like better. If no one does, great, I truly don't care. But yes this would be the spot to post it if I were trying to give users an alternative, is it not? It's unbelievable how rude YOU are. Delete the damn topic already.


WHO'S full of WHO'S self now? Who's the one who made the topic? Who's the one who can't believe nobody likes the app, and thus declares everyone to be a pesonal friend of the dev? WHO NEEDED TO USE HIS GIRLFRIEND TO GIVE A NON-NEGATIVE RESPONSE? GOD what a DUMBASS!


Matthew:

Christ mate... look at your App.. although It may be good a description of 'Plays music on FaceBook' is shite.

What you need is a proper description, links to the actual code and a help guide...

Also... It does look rather... ugly? not all of us want a blood red box in the middle of our facebook... bring out a blue and white version like Audio already is and you may be able to compeate... heck If you can get playlists etc and have 6-7 fully playing songs on your profile then sure I'll use it and tell others to.

I do agree with the less users part... many of FB's apps are crashing/not working due to overloading too quickly...

Lastly... Joanna... Mine is bigger =P



Stephen:

Hahah, nice touch at the end matt...
I will work on allowing the option of a standard blue/white facebook style when I get a chance.
Thanks for your thoughts.



Candie:

All you silly, silly gooses that keep arguing about maturity, are clearly showing no maturity yourselves, and therefore, only showing that you have wayyyy too much free time to read the entire forum and then reply to it to argue. And yes, I am a hypocrite. K.Thanks.Bye.

P.S. The kid who posted that his app is better is a freaking hottie, and he can do whatever the f he wants, and be mature, because only mature, smart, people are able to develop programs. :-D


..................
Did she REALLY just say all of that?


Stephen:

Haha, thanks Candie You rock.


"Yay! My friend is saying good things about me! I'm the KING OF THE WORLD!!"


Andrew:

Because we all know that being hot is the way to win an argument, and being smart enough to write an app defines maturity.. right Candie?

I'm about to write my own facebook audio app because Audio has some annoying bugs (which I've already posted about on their page). I was looking at all the other audio related apps, and all I have to say is that nobody will use this thing unless you change the skin, and the style of the playlist site you posted. Sure it works, but it looks like trash. Audio fits the facebook style and that's why everyone uses it.

Also, you're kind of a douchebag to everyone that posts here about your app, except the one cute chick that took your side. Criticism doesn't have to be nice to be correct.



Derek:

ok everybody, not that i care at all, but i just read through this entire forum and it totally added some much needed humorous enjoyment to my day. and for that, i thank all of you. i have no intention of adding any audio app to my fb profile because ultimately it doesn't matter. but keep up the good work and arguing and stuff. it peanut butter jellytime.


oh, and mine is my far the biggest.



Stephen:

Hahaha. Yeah this makes me laugh.

PS. Andrew, i've had probably more people that say they like the red/black skin more than people that would rather have the plane blue skin. So dont jump to conclusions saying nobody will use it. (which by the way, i will add the option for either skin soon) Also, I am not a douchebag to everyone who talks about it... If you write honest criticism I am more than nice... but don't expect me to be nice to immature people that talk crap or put words into my mouth. And i think i get as much humor out of this as the guy before me haha.


"I have 3 people using my app, and 2 said "red and black", so it stays hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha."


Josh:

Dear Stephen,

Here are a few things I noticed about your program.

1. Your program is ugly.
2. It does everything audio does, so why bother.
3. You can't spell.
4. Sleek Box > Ugly Red Box
5. ZMedia = Retarded name
6. You have horrible photoshop skills.
7. Your player is way too big and that giant ad link has to go.
8. You have 200 users, while Audio is about to reach its 500,000 mark.

Sorry man, but you need to try and make something different instead of just copying the leading music player and advertising it all over the place. Uploading a song on fileden.com is just as easy, if not EASIER than ftp.



Josh:

BTW

I could make a better app than ZMedia in about 10 minutes.

All you did was use the normal code to post a song and then you stuck it inside a shitty red box that you made in MSPaint. Give me a break...

Better? I actually feel sorry for those who think your player even deserves a 1 out of 10 for extreme gayness.



Andrew:

second



Stephen:

Haha, wow, Josh... do you not have anything better to do with your time? I truly feel bad for how pathetic your life is.

1... my program is ugly? apparently 250 people in the last 3 days didn't seem to think it was ugly... so speak for yourself
2. You're right, it does do everything audio does, AND more. I don't believe Audio has the functionality that my website player does.
3. I can't spell? PLEASE tell me what i don't know how to spell, because looking at my previous post, i do not believe i spelled one word wrong.
4. ...hahah... well this just speaks for itself
5. See 4.
6. I have fantastic photoshop skills, and actually do photoshop work on a daily basis for my work
7. Yes... My 3 inch media player is way too big, i couldn't agree more. i mean come on, THREE inches... thats ridiculous.
8. Yes, you are right. I don't know how many times I have to tell you that Audio is not my competitor and that I don't care if I only have 5 users. But for the sake of making you look even more like a complete fool... ya think the difference might have something to do with the fact that Audio has been around for a couple weeks, whereas my app was created a couple days ago? And that Audio will grow more rapidly than mine because it has more users and it spreads like a spiderweb. But you're clearly not intelligent enough to know this.

I didn't 'copy' anything, and i'm not 'advertising' anything either. if you haven't figured this out yet... read through every one of my posts again, because i say over and over again that i could care less if i only had 5 users.
I love how defensive you kids get about something that doesnt matter.

You can make your own facebook media player in 10 minutes? Wow, thats amazing. How long do you really think it took me? You can do it in an entire 1 line of code.

If you were saying you can recreate my website player in 10 minutes, I would bet you couldn't. Unless of course you cheated.

hahah... i can't spell... that was my favorite.



"You decided to make a list of the things you don't like about me/my program? Wow, you're life is so pathetic! You have a pathetic life and you have nothing to do with your time, you pathetic lifeless patheticguy! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha."

Yeah... so WHO'S the one who's masturbating over his own app, in SOMEONE ELSE'S APP'S DISCUSSION FORUM?

I didn't bother posting in the thread, nobody'll ever be able to knock any sense into this guy... we can't reach him, his horse is too tall! (speaking won't work either, his skull's too thick)

It's people like this who make me want to add some chlorine to the gene pool...

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This screams 'tl;dr'.

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tl:dr
Oh wait I already heard it in IRC.
Heh. Funny stuff.

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Drag
Posted on 06-06-07 02:37 AM (rev. 2 of 06-06-07 02:38 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 42777


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Posted by Valkyrie
This screams 'tl;dr'.


Then don't read it and shut up. This isn't 4chan.

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Posted on 06-06-07 02:38 AM (rev. 3 of 06-06-07 02:49 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 42778

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Posted by Drag
Posted by Valkyrie
This screams 'tl;dr'.


Then don't read it and shut the hell up. This isn't 4chan.


I quote Scar:

"Temper Temper...I wouldn't -dream- of challenging -you-."

Christ, Drag, grow up.

Besides...I don't understand why you had to edit 'the hell' out of it. It runs with the flow of a flame. C'mon.

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It was better in IRC

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Posted by Xkeeper
It was better in IRC


This thread owns.

Drag
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Posted by Valkyrie
Besides...I don't understand why you had to edit 'the hell' out of it. It runs with the flow of a flame. C'mon.


Flaming staff usually ends up in a ban, and I wanted to tone my response down because I didn't want to actually flame.

"tl;dr" really extremely bugs me... I mean, if it's too long and you didn't read it, why would you post saying so? Normal user, staff, admin, it doesn't matter, it bugs me no matter what.

Plus I was still annoyed after reading the thread, I felt like punching that guy.

So yeah, sorry if I ruined the flame for you.

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Posted by Drag
...Flaming staff usually ends up in a ban...


No shit? I hate to think that I wouldn't be aware of such a thing.

So I guess I such hit the 'b&' now.

Oh wait, I didn't really care about that to begin with. Like I said, calm down. It's not like I meant to get on your nerves or anything. You've been around this place long enough to know that.

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Yeah, sorry, this is just my typical Drag's Overreaction™

Anyway, getting back on topic...

umm... zMedia sucks and I should totally make my own.

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Posted by Valkyrie
This screams 'tl;dr'.
This screams "knuck!"

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LET'S GET BACK ON TOPIC.

In other news this guy is clearly a moron.

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Posted on 06-06-07 04:17 AM (rev. 2 of 06-06-07 05:29 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 42821


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One thing about the MySpace music apps. Yeah, it cusks sucks badly. However, because of Tom and Co.'s obliviousness to IP addresses, making a band/artist account is stupidly easy. And, because of that, you can just upload the songs you need. Yeah, it's a hassle, but better than being forced to use already-available accounts, right? Music app still sucks, though.

As for the thread, I believe there were faults on both sides. Stephen made the mistake of "advertising" on Facebook, then claiming he isn't. He then says he posted it as an "alternative" to Facebook's app, contradicting himself, it seems. He also has a huge ego, not to mention saying that his posts are "flawless". Hey, y'know that its/it's rule? Yeah, that still exists. " haha" is also not, in any way, mature.

The supporters of Audio also didn't just simply ignore Stephen's thread, which would've ended the conflict much faster.

So Audio supporters kinda screwed up on their end, but not as much as Stephen.

[Edit] Oh, and Stephen did, in fact, make a spelling error. He spelled "genius" as "genious". lolfail

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That's one ego I would like to pop with a needle.

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I can believe there are people like this. Especially on sites like myspace and facebook, they attract retards like a magnet. A very stupid magnet. One that doesn't know which end of itself is positive or negative. This person, is one of the reasons I can't stand people in general. Ignorance, stupidity, he just doesn't seem to get it.

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This screams 'tl;dr'.
This screams "knuck!"


I ate him.

And we have on-topics in this forum?

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Another thing people are upset about is the fact that "top friends" apps are showing up, and in every single one of them, there are comments like "I joined Facebook to get AWAY from MySpace".

Just as long as nobody makes a "hey, put any kind of html on your profile" app, we'll be good.

But yeah, there's a lot of people who are being stupid with these apps. The applications are a good idea, but it's inevitable that there will be dumbasses who are stupid with them.

The amazing thing is that Stephen constantly is saying that his app has more functionality, when in reality it doesn't. It's just an Audio ripoff, made very ugly, and with a very clumsy and blatently unprofessional system backing it. It's apps like this that Facebook really needs to add a quality control system for.

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