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Hiryuu
Posted on 06-03-07 09:40 AM Link | Quote | ID: 41774

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...For a top of the line computer?

cpubasic13
Posted on 06-03-07 09:44 AM Link | Quote | ID: 41775


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20 MHZ!?

Wow, its definitely is strictly for business!

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Hiryuu
Posted on 06-03-07 09:47 AM Link | Quote | ID: 41777

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Yup, to this day even.

Metal_Man88
Posted on 06-03-07 11:07 AM Link | Quote | ID: 41792


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My Dad bought one of those new. A competitor, at least. the 386-SX. An incredibly advanced ZEOS machine for its day. I learned how to use the computer from that; it's also thinks to that I wound up on the internet so fast.

Though it still was only 20 MHz >.<

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Posted on 06-03-07 01:31 PM Link | Quote | ID: 41813


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I don't even want to think about what our Extended Amstrad must have cost back in 1986 or something. A lot...

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And yet now, that computer would go for...5 dollars?

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Jordan
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"mouse support included." You KNOW it's old when they're bragging about stuff like that. Oh, and the monitor and mouse aren't even included! Most companies these days wouldn't dare to sell a computer without a mouse. Maybe without a monitor if it's a cheap one.

This sorta reminds me of the Commodore 64 my dad had way back when. 64 KB of RAM.

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Posted by Jordan Mega Gamer
"mouse support included." You KNOW it's old when they're bragging about stuff like that. Oh, and the monitor and mouse aren't even included! Most companies these days wouldn't dare to sell a computer without a mouse. Maybe without a monitor if it's a cheap one.

This sorta reminds me of the Commodore 64 my dad had way back when. 64 KB of RAM.
The Mac Mini comes without a keyboard, monitor or mouse. Of course, the idea of that is they are marketing it at people who already have these things...

A few other companies make "headless" computers too.

And I remember when mouse support was a big thing. My first computer had a mouse, but it was unusual for the time. My first computer also had a GUI -- GEM.

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Hiryuu
Posted on 06-04-07 12:02 AM Link | Quote | ID: 41990

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I didn't mess around with mice until about 1990 or so. Even then it had very limited capabilities in DOS and I mostly messed with Windows 3.0 at the time which had more use for it.

Still, that didn't mean that I didn't know how to use Windows without a mouse. It's still pretty much possible to do for the most part these days except for a few instances.

HyperHacker
Posted on 06-04-07 05:51 AM Link | Quote | ID: 42097

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Turn MouseKeys on. I use it all the time for precise movement.

Kernal
Posted on 06-05-07 05:54 AM Link | Quote | ID: 42493

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My parents had outdated computers, so I grew up with just keyboards and no mice. My dad had a very early Tandy 1000 and we also had a Commodore 64. He would write novels on his Tandy using something called WordStar, and I would often wake up in the morning to the sound of the dot-matrix printer.

MaxKnight
Posted on 06-05-07 06:07 AM Link | Quote | ID: 42495


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Our first computer... A Magnavox Headstart. It had a 386/16 processor with 1MB onboard RAM. Came with a 40MB Hard Drive, and DOS 4.01. Also came packaged with Geoworks Ensemble, a GUI environment that tried to handle DOS programs (though it wasn't all that great). Needless to say, I learned command line computing very quickly.

It was cool, though. We had Sim City, and this really neat game called Millennium: Return to Earth. I so very much enjoyed that game.

This was also our main computer up through about 1996/8 (can't remember the exact year...).

Then we upgraded to a Compaq Presario POS. It came with a 233MHz Pentium II w/MMX. It was great until it started the endless reboot.

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Kernal
Posted on 06-05-07 01:33 PM Link | Quote | ID: 42588

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Geoworks Ensemble...hmmm.

I've used a GUI called GEOS, which was for the Commodore 64 and was slow as hell if you didn't have a fast disk drive and more RAM, and expansion RAM for a Commodore was extremely rare for a long time. It was similar to early Mac systems, although more limiting as the computer wasn't designed to operate a GUI. You couldn't move windows around, multitasking was very limited , and so on. Because not too many Commodore owners had mice, GEOS was designed to work with joysticks and other game controllers as well.

Hiryuu
Posted on 06-05-07 06:33 PM Link | Quote | ID: 42631

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Think my first one that we had at home was back in 1990. 286 with 1024K RAM, 12MHz processor (turbo button'd), a 40 MB hard drive (split 32/8, got me as to why) and DOS 3.3 installed with Wordperfect Office Shell 3.0 over it. It was later messed with be me at age 10 or so to include Windows 3.0, mouse support and DOS 5.0.

I later re-reformatted and re-partitioned it and got the 286 to run Windows 3.1 without problem. The only thing is that the OS took nearly half of the hard drive (about 18MB). It was still a good thing to type on, play a few games (namely Scorched Earth) and a few other things. It was in service to me until around 1998 when it was outdated by a 166MHz computer that my father couldn't use anymore which was subsequently outdated in 2001 by this 1.0GHz comp.

Needless to say, I'm -still- outdated.

Kernal
Posted on 06-05-07 07:01 PM (rev. 2 of 06-05-07 07:02 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 42637

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Posted by Valkyrie
40 MB hard drive (split 32/8, got me as to why)


Maybe that version of DOS had a 32 MB max partition size?

I'm thinking that because one of our computers ran into a partition limit present in Windows 95 and late DOS era. We bought a 2.5 GB hard drive and the max partition size was 2.1 GB, so we had to put it into two partitions.

Hiryuu
Posted on 06-05-07 11:04 PM Link | Quote | ID: 42698

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I believe you're thinking the old-style FAT 2.0GB partition maximum (which isn't ancient; it's still used in SD cards and digital cameras unless otherwise SDHC compatible). I re-partitioned it and it was at 40MB just fine. It just had to do with the fact that they had certain files on the 8MB partition and the OS on the 32MB. Got me as to why but a -hard drive- was a big thing more than the space was back in the day. It used to be an office computer but my mother brought one home.

It was a Packard Hell.

Xeon
Posted on 06-06-07 01:14 AM Link | Quote | ID: 42726


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I remember when I had a Commodore 128, I loved to play this game called Theif on it all the time. I also tried my hand at BASIC programming, but the compilers where so primitive and almost unusable I never succeeded. I'm so glad computers have gone down in price so much the past few years, I don't think id be here today if it weren't for that fact.

Kernal
Posted on 06-06-07 01:18 AM Link | Quote | ID: 42728

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Actually, they were interpreted.

I learned programming in Basic on the Commodore 64. The only real problem I had with it was the slowness, it was very hard to code a decent game without using ASM, which is the programming language from hell.

I hated Qbasic though.

Hiryuu
Posted on 06-06-07 02:29 AM Link | Quote | ID: 42769

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10 GOTO 20
20 GOTO 10

BWAH GW-BASIC AND SPAGHETTI CODE

QBasic sucked for me but I know far too many people, on net and in real life, that -still- swear by it. I used to mess with DOS Batch Files, in terms of creating them, when I was a little kid but I didn't mess around with QBasic that much...just enough to get some weird errors and mess with a few things in MONKEY.BAS.

xpCynic
Posted on 06-07-07 06:14 AM Link | Quote | ID: 43217


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Well, wasn't the Macintosh XL more expensive?

On the subject of first computers, my grandma had an old machine running Windows 3.1. She also had Microsoft Entertainment Pack. Being a 6 year old at the time, I thought it was the greatest thing ever, but after using it all in a virtual console without my laptop breaking a sweat, it kind of loses its impact.
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