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Tarale
Posted on 02-21-07 07:33 AM Link | Quote | ID: 3297


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On a slightly different topic to the 'Favourite Album' thread, I'd like to talk more generally about Albums.

More specifically about Albums as a whole, and if the art of releasing an album as a whole is dying. Sure, you can buy collections of recent songs on a CD -- but I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about albums with a theme to them and not as a mere collection of songs. For instance, the album Plans by Death Cab for Cutie has several underlying themes to it, and this helps tie each song together as a whole. And some albums even make a point of making each song transition to the next, as with Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd, and The Fragile by Nine Inch Nails.

But some albums are just recent material by an artist, and filler tracks they put in to get in the way of the one track you should have just purchased as a single. And is it just me, or are more albums recently like this, sometimes so bad you wind up skipping to the point of missing half the album...?

I need to find more albums that you can sit down and listen to from beginning to end, and be taken on a journey, or explore a theme from different angles, or other fun stuff.

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Posted on 02-21-07 07:38 AM Link | Quote | ID: 3301


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I noticed that about albums, especially the filler track thing. Some filler tracks aren't too bad, I will admit, though some albums I will find myself skipping over a good number of songs or becoming disinterested fast. For the most part I've never found any real "theme" to the albums I've come accross, mostly just as you said it, a bunch of recent singles with fillers to keep things interesting. I guess I don't mind too much if the music is GOOD but you know, if its just some random group of songs just sell more copys because a well known single is on it, then I'm not really going to be too satisfied with my purchase ;x

Toxic
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I could not agree with you more. I was actually just thinking about this the other day.

A Grand Don't Come For Free is really the last album I can think of that had some thread running through all the tracks, and I find it funny that that's now referred to as a concept album.

Tarale
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Funny, the Wikipedia article describes a Concept Album as such:

'In popular music, a concept album is an album which is "unified by a theme, which can be instrumental, compositional, narrative, or lyrical" Most often they are pre-planned (conceived) and with all songs contributing to a single overall theme or unified story, this plan or story being the concept. This is in contrast to the standard practice of an artist or group releasing an album consisting of a number of unconnected songs that the members of the group or the artist have written, or have been chosen to perform or cover. Given that the suggestion of something as vague as an overall mood often tags a work as being a concept album, a precise definition of the term proves problematic.'

But the thing is, I wouldn't describe Ben Folds last album, Songs for Silverman or for that matter, any of Ben Folds' albums, as "concept albums". However they do have a few common threads that go through the tracks, and a few nifty things. The Unauthorised Biography of Reinhold Messner by Ben Folds Five even has tracks that refer to other tracks (lyrically or musically) on the album but I wouldn't call it a concept album either.

Ahh, the concept of concept albums does my head in.

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When I think of a concept album, I think of something like The Wall, which I guess is called a "rock opera", but I'm not sure if either really fit well.

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My first thought is Green Day's American Idiot, which is a story told throughout the whole album. I was reeeeeeeaaaallllly into Green Day when the album came out, I listened to it like crack. Now I don't listen all that often, though I can still appreciate the story. I dig it.

The band says they got the idea for a rock opera from The Wall, as previously mentioned by tox.

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Sublime by Sublime
Blue Haze by Miles Davis
Farmhouse by Phish
Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars by David Bowie

Likewise Frank Zappa's Joe's Garage.

Zem
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Posted by Tarale

But some albums are just recent material by an artist, and filler tracks they put in to get in the way of the one track you should have just purchased as a single. And is it just me, or are more albums recently like this, sometimes so bad you wind up skipping to the point of missing half the album...?

This is probably true of the majority of albums in the history of the music industry, not just a recently. I don't keep up with enough mainstream releases to be sure it's not trending upwards, but it's more probable that the 70s-80s was an unusually high period for concept albums, possibly because it worked better with the popular genres of the time.

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I find that most of my favourite albums have an underlying theme/aspect to them:

- OK Computer - Radiohead (the modern age - and the problems that come with it)

- Downward Spiral - NIN (the main character's descent down his own downward spiral, until he commits suicide in the last song)

- Deloused in the Comatorium - The Mars Volta (concept album about the experiences the main character goes through while in a coma after attempted suicide. The album ends with his awakening and then his successful suicide)

- Geogaddi - Boards of Canada (the occult)

- Kid A - Radiohead (the end of the world)

- Celestial - ISIS (the album portrays a story of how a tower is built up, and subsequently destroyed, and then the aftermath. According to the band, this 'tower' which is referred to in the songs is supposed to represent a man's love for a woman who betrayed him)

So yeah, you kinda get the idea. I like albums with a concept/theme of some kind, and to be totally honest, there's loads more on the way this year, as well as the 7th Radiohead release, and a new NIN album (Year Zero). So right now, I'm not too worried about the album dying out. As long as theres artists that want to tell a story, there will always be longer releases - theres too much for just one song.




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The Sufferer and The Witness by Rise Against seems to deal with a lot of American Government problems, and things like Global Warming, I noticed. Or in "The Approaching Curve", it's like a telling of a story where you get to decide the ending, do the arguing lovers die, or not? It's quite interesting.

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