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The Red Snifit
Posted on 05-14-07 10:57 PM Link | Quote | ID: 35325


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Posted by Spontaneous Madness
Oh yes! Mac's are all fun, and no work

(Stupid comic)
Good ol' CAD to put in my post.

(Stupider comic)
Yet another one

Don't be a jerk to us Mac fans. We're not being a jerk to you.
Besides, both of those are lies.
1. I, along with most of my friends, are Mac gamers.
2. Macs do have better security. Nobody makes Mac viruses because nobody can.

Katelyn
Posted on 05-15-07 12:16 AM Link | Quote | ID: 35346

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And Linux has no viruses or spyware either, and plenty of open-source games

Tarale
Posted on 05-15-07 12:18 AM Link | Quote | ID: 35348


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I'm a mac user.

I would like to say that there's no viruses cause it's too hard, but that's a lie.

The reason there aren't many viruses for Mac is pretty much the same as why there aren't many viruses for Linux. Most of the viruses in either case are either proof-of-concept viruses that never went anywhere, just proved a point -- or viruses that don't spread because a virus has to work a lot harder on a UNIX system to get anywhere.

"Virus requires your administrative password..."



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DarkSlaya
Posted on 05-15-07 03:46 AM Link | Quote | ID: 35426


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There should be a rule stating "Do not make a thread about an OS Or a browser".


Anyway, seriously, just use what the fuck you want and stop saying "this is better lol, so this must mean I'm cooler".


It's old, and fucking retarded. Also, people, stop saying false facts.

Why there are tons of viruses on Windows:
1- More people use it. Which leads to number 2.
2- More people means higher number of retards.
3- More retards means worms and the like are spread easily, or that anything is run in admin.
4- You can guess the rest.

Yes, I'll admit Windows could be way better in some ways, when it's about security (and I don't mean "program.exe wants to open. Do you want it to open, even if you did say yes the last hundred times? Oh, and who cares about putting a checkbox to say "Don't ask again, I know what the fuck I'm opening"").


I am aware that the is in fish/craziness, but hey, I felt like typing a rant or something.

Oh, and the only reason I'd go Mac is for Pro Tools, everything else doesn't appeal to me.


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Tarale
Posted on 05-15-07 04:12 AM Link | Quote | ID: 35439


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Posted by DarkSlaya
Anyway, seriously, just use what the fuck you want and stop saying "this is better lol, so this must mean I'm cooler".
But I am cooler. I am fucking awesome.

I am awesome and so is my Mac. You're all just jealous you can't be as cool as me.

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NightKev
Posted on 05-15-07 05:17 AM (rev. 2 of 05-15-07 05:18 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 35453


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Posted by The Red Snifit
*Cough*
(This is for all those who are like, "Windows > Macs because of the Windows-only stuff.")

I never said Windows > Mac (I'm the opposite, I think Mac > PC), I just said it's unfortunate that most things are designed for Windows first and Mac support is added as an afterthought, if at all, so there's much less games for Mac .

Edit: Post 777, and it's about how crappy Vista/Windows is ... I don't know if that's good or bad .

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See, I'm not a gamer so Mac's lack of games really doesn't worry me.

The things I do use (graphics and internet tools) are on Mac, and there are many excellent open source programs that I use on the Mac platform, many of which I find much nicer to use than similar open-source or freeware applications on Windows.

I use both Windows and Mac though of course. I even support Windows every day in a full time job, which is actually one of the reasons I really appreciate my Macintosh. After spending all day fixing people's broken PCs, it's very relieving to go home to my lovely Macintoshes. I don't have to mess around with anything I don't want to... they "just work".

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Ailure
Posted on 05-15-07 11:15 AM Link | Quote | ID: 35532

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I play very few modern games, so games isn't as big issue for me.

I play uhm... Simcity4, The sims2, Civilization 4 and Command and conquer 3. Out of those games, only The sims 2 dosen't run at all in Wine apparently. Some of them have graphical glitches, but it's interesting that Command and Conquer 3 runs despite being a quite recent game.

I probably won't ditch Windows completely, but I might wind up using it only for a select few programs that won't run in other OS's if I decide to switch.

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Tyty
Posted on 05-19-07 06:24 PM (rev. 2 of 05-19-07 06:27 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 36429


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solution to all problems, get a PC with a HUGE hard drive, install XP, and get a mac emulator, so then you get garageband, and good games, and can laugh at people who argue about it.

oh, and you don't get vista's problems either


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The Red Snifit
Posted on 05-19-07 07:14 PM Link | Quote | ID: 36435


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Posted by tyty210
solution to all problems, get a PC with a HUGE hard drive, install XP, and get a mac emulator, so then you get garageband, and good games, and can laugh at people who argue about it.

oh, and you don't get vista's problems either


Or you could just get a Mac and install Windows to it.

Acmlm
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Probably better that way too, since you aren't going to run MacOS X very well in emulators yet (PowerPC emulation is slow) ... at least until there's virtual machines running the Intel version

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Tarale
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Better to just get the Mac and dual boot it to Windows or Ubuntu or whatever you like.

There are no guarantees with the stability of Mac OS X on systems it is not supposed to run on. You'd be silly to install it to something else and expect reliability.

At least if you get the Macintosh you know Mac OS X is going to run properly. And Windows runs very well too. Haven't tried Vista on a Mac yet (haven't got Vista) but I hear that runs reasonably well too (aside from the general complaints I've heard about Vista right now that are usual for a new Microsoft OS..... yes, I remember it was like this when XP came out too...)

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misterj
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i'm not sure what everyone's beef with vista is. my only real problem with it is it's the same thing as xp but windows explorer is different and that it's not that different from xp.
sure its size is about 16 gb, but having 112ish gb available sort of makes it seem unsignificant. 5000 mp3s is probably around 5 gb. big games are between 1 and 2 gb. 26 episodes of some random anime is around 3 gb... hd space is no problem for me.
ram isn't much of an issue for me either. i'm running a winamp playlist with about 2000 songs, AIM, skype, mIRC on 5 servers and 18 channels, FIREFOX using 2 tabs, daemon tools with one mounted iso, as well as 2x explorer and one folder open... and i have 500/1024 mb/ram free. ram is not a problem whatsoever. sure it could be using less, but how the fuck am i going to add another 500 mb of crap on? i'm already running things i normally run. there's not going to be much else i'll open aside from maybe gunbound or ro or some game.

Tarale
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At the moment, my problems with Vista are:

* interface is ugly (I doubt this one will go away)

* system is still unstable, etc. It will be like that until the first Service Pack I guess, like XP was back in the day. There's poor support with drivers and whatnot which is pretty much the same thing I saw back when XP came out anyway

* interface is quite different, enough to cause problems for end users who are not very adaptable when it comes to IT. Things like that cause problems for me.

* It's still Windows underneath (I honestly got "over" Windows in 2003, when I first ran screaming to Linux to save me, then Mac OS X)

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misterj
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you can just change the interface back to classic(i always did that). it's really not that bad. mine is changed so that isn't really a problem for me.
i never noticed problems with system stability. my highest uptime was probably 3 or 4 weeks, but i use a laptop so uptime isn't quite a necessity(right now? uptime is maybe 5 minutes since installing clonecd.) the driver issues like you said will be fixed as time goes on(and it was released relatively recently too.. february?).
the only thing i can think of with "interface is quite different"(which i think is a bit vague) is that it's meant to be different. it's a new os, but you can still change to classic settings(that's what i did for a few things). i think the best change is the start menu. it's no longer a giant beast of crap filling the screen, but more like a folder in 'list' style that uses up little space, loads instantly, and can be scrolled through. it's really quite nice. another new thing i like is how the task manager can be accessed by right clicking the task bar.
being windows underneath is what's to keep people using it. i wouldn't really like a HUGE change unless it was necessary or useful...

it's still an os and it's not designed to cater to the needs of everyone. you should use it your own way and if it doesn't suit you, just switch to something that does. it's just like people complaining about mac os x, linux, etc(here's where i probably sound like a hypocrite, but in my own defense i only make fun of people who use linux(if they brag about it) because i knew someone for a LONG TIME who complained endlessly about windows and bragged about linux being better... and since then i always realized how funny it was to troll linux users.). if it doesn't suit your needs, you don't have to use it. still, i'd say it's worth a try for about a month or so. if you have frequent issues with it, go back to whatever you were using before. i found that vista was fine, even though i was skeptical at first; i planned on installing xp on here right after buying it.. but i stuck with it and realized there weren't any issues i had with it.

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By default, Explorer windows don't have a file menu, several other windows lack title bars, etc. Don't forget wizards with seemingly fucking random back button placement.

tbh a lot of things in Vista piss me off. It really seems watered down for even worse idiots, and some things just don't make sense.


But yeah, a lot of the driver problems are expected (although I had no problems installing it on my grandparents computer and it ran fine).

Anyone who whines about drivers and uses Linux needs to be shot, though (wasn't i tjust recently they finally supported Wi-Fi, and even then only certain cards?), and Macs never have that problem because 99% of a Mac is propitary Apple shit.

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Posted on 05-24-07 12:07 AM Link | Quote | ID: 37806


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Posted on 05-24-07 12:08 AM (rev. 2 of 05-24-07 12:09 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 37807

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That's why I will stay with XP and Linux (preferably one with KDE)

Kernal
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X11-based GUIs are the best. I used KDE for a while and it was fantastic. X11 just gets everything right, which Windows gets wrong. Take window focus, for instance. Also, the easy copy-paste feature with the middle (or wheel) mouse button, instead of having to mope with Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V.

Can't speak for OS X, as the last time I touched a Mac was 1996.

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Posted by Xkeeper
Anyone who whines about drivers and uses Linux needs to be shot, though (wasn't i tjust recently they finally supported Wi-Fi, and even then only certain cards?)


There's been support for wireless on Linux for years, just some cards have better support than others.

Posted by Xkeeper
and Macs never have that problem because 99% of a Mac is propitary Apple shit.


Well, at least you understand why Macs "just work".

It's wonderful and something I like over both Linux and Windows. Little to no unnecessary fucking about, it just fucking works.

That and the interface is consistent... which is something that I hope Microsoft have at least learned by now...(but it didn't really look that way)

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