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| Main - General Chat - SMB2 Proto Released | New thread | New reply |
| Thexare Blademoon |
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 Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 110/180 EXP: 191458 Next: 14984 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5974 days Last view: 5967 days |
Posted by PSlugworthFirst, the insult thing was referring to NetSplit repeatedly calling people morons. True, it's not much of an insult... Now, more relevant to the quoted bit... let's make a comparison. Gay marriage has been a popular debate topic in many places. Many of the people debating it are not gay. So why should we listen to their opinions? Because a direct personal involvement in the topic in question is not a prerequisite for forming a reasoned opinion. |
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 Red Paratroopa Level: 30 Posts: 48/162 EXP: 163268 Next: 2601 Since: 03-07-07 From: Chicago Last post: 3528 days Last view: 1623 days |
Is there a version of "Godwin's law" for Gay Marriage? As in once someone goes completely offtopic and mentions Gay Marriage, the thread is over and you lose? ____________________ |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 111/180 EXP: 191458 Next: 14984 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5974 days Last view: 5967 days |
Edit: You know what, nevermind. This thread's not worth the frustration of dealing with some of the more unreasonable people like NetSplit, especially on a day that I have to work to help support my parents. Fuck this shit. |
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 Mole Level: 42 Posts: 306/351 EXP: 521346 Next: 16 Since: 02-19-07 From: Massachusetts Last post: 5975 days Last view: 5412 days |
NetSplit, I understand people spend tons of money on these and may hope to get it back one day by reselling it. But isn't that then being selfish? True, no one is entitled to it, but hoarding it is only keeping a part of gaming history from being documented and discovered, and for what? S some collector can make a quick buck by selling it back? If they need to sell it back for the money that badly, they shouldn't have spent it on the damn thing in the first place. Typically, I don't buy something with the intention of selling it back at a later price. That's pretty foolish. If I buy something, I usualy plan on keeping it and don't get butthurt if the value goes down as a result of it. And if I payed a metric fuckton of money for a proto, I wouldn't give half a shit. Because I would release the ROM of it. And I wouldn't get all OHNOE, NOW I CANT SELL IT BACK THUS DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF ME EVER OWNING IT IN THE FIRST PLAEC
Really, I can understand your points but when it all comes down to it, there's really just a lot of selfishness going on and even more egotripping in the vast VAST majority of collectors. No one is entitled to the game, but in this particular context/situation, it's like saying dying children with cancer aren't entitled to a cure. It'd still be nice to help them out. |
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 Spike Dragon Level: 57 Posts: 420/705 EXP: 1484134 Next: 1794 Since: 02-19-07 From: 
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I have the rom, and I feel it's nice to finally have it. By no means did I ever think I *deserved* it, seeing as how I've done nothing to do so. When BMF first said he had the rom, I was excited, and I asked him if I could get a copy, and of course he said no. After a few "come on!  "'s, I eventually just gave up and respected BMF's promise to not give it out, and that was the end from it for me.
Yes, I have the rom now. The methods used to get the rom available were questionable, but since it wasn't me who did it, I don't feel guilty about having the rom. I do feel bad for the collector who's trust was violated, and I feel bad for BMF, who probably only obtained the rom after hard work, but he's not the one who leaked it, I'm not the one who leaked it, so I don't feel guilty. So in short, I feel bad for certain parties involved, but I don't feel bad for just simply having the rom in my possession. I don't like hoarding, but I respect people's decisions to do so. Ask BMF, I asked for the rom a few times, and then I never said a word on the subject again. And since when did 30+ people in IRC have the rom? Maybe after it got leaked, but certainly not beforehand. All this arguing is pointless, it's turning into flame wars, everyone's trying to impose guilt-trips on everyone. The leaking and releasing was the wrong thing to do, feel guilty about it or not, no matter what, it was wrong. We have the rom now, woo-hoo, be happy. Also, Sonic X-Treme doesn't have any actual prototype. All of it is just tech demos everyone would get bored with after minutes. If anything, be greatful that protos of it haven't been leaked, because now you still can be interested about it. So can we drop this now? ____________________  |
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 Red Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 51/202 EXP: 226516 Next: 2663 Since: 04-21-07 From: United States Last post: 2430 days Last view: 2391 days |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 92/189 EXP: 206001 Next: 441 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6011 days Last view: 6003 days |
Posted by Mattrizzle87 Yeah, seriously. Because debating in the internet won't change anything. |
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 Red Goomba Level: 17 Posts: 41/44 EXP: 23048 Next: 1695 Since: 04-10-07 Last post: 6197 days Last view: 6196 days |
Why cant staff/admins split or merge topics? That's not hard to implement in PHP -.- |
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Level: 105 Posts: 1675/2846 EXP: 12037655 Next: 224605 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6070 days Last view: 2807 days |
Posted by SarialYou're screwed up here. Besides, there are more inpotant "features" to implement than topic splitting. ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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 Lantern Ghost Level: 60 Posts: 303/766 EXP: 1680858 Next: 91920 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5974 days Last view: 5780 days |
Haha this is so funny!
We should invest in a display case, I hear they are cheap these days! ____________________ I miss post headers more. |
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 Dry Bones Level: 55 Posts: 357/627 EXP: 1244737 Next: 69452 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5530 days Last view: 5275 days |
Posted by Sonicandfails Nah... This thread is definitely the equivalent of nuclear fallout. To the trash bin with it! ____________________ |
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 Red Koopa Level: 28 Posts: 97/139 EXP: 129929 Next: 1409 Since: 02-19-07 From: Rochester, NY Last post: 5804 days Last view: 5711 days |
Posted by NetSplit Wait, I need an excuse to release prototypes now?
This is a community dedicated to the editing of illegal backup copies of commercial products. We steal games every time we download a game. So if what I've done is considered theft, I'm not all too bothered. =P
Thanks, tell us something we don't already know. ____________________
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Spike fuck~ Level: 58 Posts: 352/722 EXP: 1538103 Next: 39443 Since: 02-19-07 From: Pittsburgh, PA Last post: 5300 days Last view: 2587 days |
I can't believe what a big deal this is, every single one of you is a pirate, this guy stole stolen property? FUCK HIM. That damned theif. ____________________ |
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 Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 83/388 EXP: 605133 Next: 6152 Since: 03-08-07 Last post: 5415 days Last view: 5413 days |
THIS THREAD IS RETARDED. |
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 Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 47/66 EXP: 42448 Next: 7495 Since: 03-09-07 Last post: 6129 days Last view: 6120 days |
Or maybe this thread is SPAM to promote another forum. |
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Red Paratroopa Level: 31 Posts: 106/169 EXP: 174026 Next: 11337 Since: 03-02-07 Last post: 6128 days Last view: 5939 days |
how about being on topic for once guys take your dramas to yerf.com or something.
anyhow did you know birdo can respawn offscreen? CHEATER |
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 Paratroopa Level: 28 Posts: 71/140 EXP: 131333 Next: 5 Since: 02-19-07 From: AUSSIELAND Last post: 5922 days Last view: 5922 days |
Posted by leileilolOH FUCK MEGAMAN SYNDROME On a more on-topic note, has anyone poked around the prototype ROM's innards? I tried to have a look in YY-CHR but things seemed all odd and compressed. Maybe I've just lost any idea of how to do things, but wasn't SMB2 uncompressed? Odd. |
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 Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 820/4792 EXP: 26250637 Next: 173983 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3744 days Last view: 3656 days |
Maybe they uncompressed the graphics from DDP and forgot to recompress them for SMB2. ____________________ |
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Spike Dragon Level: 57 Posts: 422/705 EXP: 1484134 Next: 1794 Since: 02-19-07 From:
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I think the game still uses CHR RAM for graphics, like what DDP does, since it runs on the FDS.
In that case, the graphics could literally be anywhere, in any format. ____________________ |
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Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 209/375 EXP: 575751 Next: 35534 Since: 02-19-07 From: [citation needed] Last post: 6096 days Last view: 6096 days |
Yeah, the game uses VRAM + SRAM (8KB extra RAM on the cart). I believe a lot of FDS conversions used the MMC1 + VRAM + SRAM combo, since it so closely matched the original FDS hardware. The final game was expanded to 256KB + MMC3 + VROM just so Nintendo could add the new ending sequence and animate more tiles (the original waterfall/quicksand/conveyor belt animations were handled by the CPU, which is very time-consuming). Of course, the new additions didn't take up nearly 128KB, and as a result the final ROM is rather sparsely populated.  ____________________ [citation needed] |
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