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| The Kins |
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 Paratroopa Level: 28 Posts: 64/140 EXP: 131329 Next: 9 Since: 02-19-07 From: AUSSIELAND Last post: 5922 days Last view: 5922 days |
Posted by XkeeperAh, fair enough. Was just wondering because I find the double-executed sprites oddly hilarious.Posted by The KinsIt'd probably break a lot of things, as all sprite code is run twice and a lot of in-game timers are cut short (the rugs, for example, don't last quite as long as usual). |
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 Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 40/66 EXP: 42446 Next: 7497 Since: 03-09-07 Last post: 6128 days Last view: 6120 days |
I'm pretty sure this little stunt has sealed the fate for those hoping the Sonic X-treme beta will ever be released to the public from one of the private collectors who bought it.
Posted by Tweaker Thats the arrogant tweaker I remember for the Simon wai forums. Sorry about your de-administrating. |
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Paratroopa Level: 28 Posts: 65/140 EXP: 131329 Next: 9 Since: 02-19-07 From: AUSSIELAND Last post: 5922 days Last view: 5922 days |
Posted by iamstillhiro1112Your mistake is thinking they'd ever release it in the first place. Sharing's caring, and they ain't sharing, so... |
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 Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 206/375 EXP: 575736 Next: 35549 Since: 02-19-07 From: [citation needed] Last post: 6096 days Last view: 6096 days |
This is all I know:
The ROM was not supposed to have been given to "30+ people" in an IRC chat room. This ROM was supposed to have stayed between the owner, the original obtainer of the ROM, and a few trusted associates behind CLOSED DOORS strictly for research purposes, since the owner wanted the differences fully documented, inside and out. The best theory right now is that one of these "trusted associates" decided to pass it off to a friend, who was not a part of this group and thus not bound by its rules, and it spread from there. Of course, this is pretty much how the majority of unintentional leaks happen, and the rules behind said "closed doors" have since been changed to prevent this from happening again. ____________________ [citation needed] |
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Gone Level: 88 Posts: 1617/1881 EXP: 6467078 Next: 183586 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6156 days Last view: 6146 days |
Why are people so greedy about this kind of stuff and hog the protos to themselves, anyway? |
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 Beezo Level: 49 Posts: 203/480 EXP: 832113 Next: 51770 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 5777 days Last view: 5642 days |
I must agree with Kernal. I'm sorry, but why exactly would someone want to keep it to themselves? The only reason I can see is to be an ass and be all "Look at me, I have this awesome proto, bow down to me! But you can't have it, cause I'm better than you." I just don't understand why people would keep it completely private and not release it in any way, other than taunting screens. What do they have to lose? I don't see a reason to keep stuff like this so hidden, it seems to me it's better for all involved if they would just release it. ____________________ There are things I want to put here. Like a cool picture, my 8-bit theatre character test result, my MS and RO characters... But it's 12 AM, and I'm sleepy. |
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 Red Cheep-cheep Level: 34 Posts: 171/216 EXP: 251636 Next: 2015 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 6130 days Last view: 6107 days |
I'd have to third that as well, I suppose.. I can understand a collector wanting to keep the original copy for themselves, as it has a physical shape (as opposed to a digital one) and some form of attachment or satisfaction can be gained from knowing you own something as rare as that.. But the ROM? Meh, you're just stepping beyond the boundaries of a collector and into greedy territory.
Mind you though, I see where BMF is coming from on this subject too.. And he's right. It is much more realistic to uphold those kinds of rules than to expect one of these collectors to be sensible enough to freely distribute something like the ROM. That said, it would have probably been better if this hadn't gotten leaked as it did.. Posted by setzPosted by Bloodstar Agreed. A DDP Beta might have been interesting.. This however is not really all that big a deal. |
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Paratroopa Level: 28 Posts: 67/140 EXP: 131329 Next: 9 Since: 02-19-07 From: AUSSIELAND Last post: 5922 days Last view: 5922 days |
Posted by TheGreatGuyThe depressing amounts of money they can sell the slowly-bitrotting cartridge/CD/harddisk/litterbox for, and the world's tiniest power trip. |
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Level: 48 Posts: 206/458 EXP: 777085 Next: 46458 Since: 02-19-07 From: The Void Last post: 3040 days Last view: 3039 days |
Pffft. Let them have their games.
If everybody just treated them like the code they were and just went "Fine, keep your old game, I won't buy it for more than the original price of the finished game" they'd be screwed. In fact, they'd probably give up all together, unless they wanted to collect them, in which case, good for them--it'll bitrot, their copy of the ROM will go away when they die, and their example can be held up to the other people obsessed with such things as a reason for not being so childish. It's a 2-way street. Sometimes I think people should stop giving these people money and let them rot. In some cases, literally. |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 41/66 EXP: 42446 Next: 7497 Since: 03-09-07 Last post: 6128 days Last view: 6120 days |
Meh, who knows. The owner of the Sonic X-treme beta could of one day had a generous streak and at least offered info on the game. Like the guy who showed off info for the SMB2 beta. But things like this don't make those chances any greater. I say this beta wasn't worth burning a bridge, all the differences were fully documented. I ain't seeing much while playing this rom that I didn't find documented at the mushroom kingdom.
As for tweakers comment about doing this "for the good of the people". Thats really bs. This was done to give an exclusive to the Sonic cult site. It even says so in the message board thread this rom release originated from. It's basically Zelda 3 beta all over again, except this time with a real rom. |
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Paratroopa Level: 28 Posts: 68/140 EXP: 131329 Next: 9 Since: 02-19-07 From: AUSSIELAND Last post: 5922 days Last view: 5922 days |
Posted by Krisan ThymeNintendo prototypes are as rare as hen's penises - most of the prototypes nowadays generally have Nintendo reps handcuffed to them. That's why this is worth noticing. Posted by iamstillhiro1112Isn't the game's frickin' programmer part of the Sonic community? I'm fairly certain he's answered a bunch of questions and released a lot of media and sprites from the game's various development stages. There's really no more info to be gleaned from Sonic Xtreme without having the actual tech demo itself, and pretending otherwise is daydreaming. |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 795/3965 EXP: 19794068 Next: 262628 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3311 days Last view: 2061 days |
Well, I do suspect it's leaked from Bergsala due to it appearing in Sweden somehow.
I doubt Bergsala would have as high security with beta carts as, let say Nintendo of America. Although they probably got the cart from USA, to judge if it would be import-worthy. If the original story about the guy living in Sweden found it in Sweden is true. Unless I'm confusing with some other prototype. Someone might gotten his hands over it, Bergsala might just either forgotten about the beta or thought it wasn't a big deal and the old owner sold it to some store, probably thinking it wasn't a big deal. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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 Red Koopa Level: 28 Posts: 93/139 EXP: 129926 Next: 1412 Since: 02-19-07 From: Rochester, NY Last post: 5804 days Last view: 5711 days |
Posted by iamstillhiro1112 Hahaha you're such a fucking idiot. I saw the shit you spewed on Lost Levels, I should've banned you like you said I did. And my resignation was a choice, thanks. In fact, who ARE you? I don't even fucking know you and you're running your mouth like we go way back or something. Go sit in a corner and shit yourself you useless little prick. And you're an even bigger idiot if you EVER thought X-Treme would be released. ____________________
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 Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 102/180 EXP: 191453 Next: 14989 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5974 days Last view: 5966 days |
Ignore him, Tweaker. He's the guy that forgot either that Germans speak German or that Germany is a part of Europe. |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 42/66 EXP: 42446 Next: 7497 Since: 03-09-07 Last post: 6128 days Last view: 6120 days |
I wasn't saying I wanted more Sonic X-treme info anyway. But the game has gained a mythical status among the Sonic fans. All indications at the time were that the game was gonna suck hard, yet since it went unreleased many people swear to the fact that the game was gonna rock.
As for not knowing about Germans, you're gonna have to refresh my memory on that one. I have no clue what you are talking about, you probably got me confused with someone else. Posted by Tweaker You guys don't really need to speculate over who leaked the rom. Tweaker claims responsibility right there. Posted by Tweaker Our history was breif, but your angerspeak has a way of being impactful. That is the effect you're going for right? So don't be suprised if someone remembers you. Edit: And I didn't say you did the banning. http://forums.lostlevels.org/viewtopic.php?p=18079#18079 But from your first post in Simon wais forum you would think that. "I fucking love pending approval." For those that don't know, pending approval is a form of banning there. http://www.s2beta.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8699&st=195 |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 103/180 EXP: 191453 Next: 14989 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5974 days Last view: 5966 days |
Posted by iamstillhiro1112Oh, it's quite simple, really, and I know I have the right guy here. Dragonsbretheren's FFIVAdvance (Europe) thread on the old board. I was even nice enough to get you a link. Your account seems to have gotten deleted, but scroll down to my post and you'll see the account name that was used. |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 44/66 EXP: 42446 Next: 7497 Since: 03-09-07 Last post: 6128 days Last view: 6120 days |
Ok, well, it was meant as a joke. Can't say humor is my strong point. Attribute that to watching too much Mystery Science theatre 3000. |
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Red Koopa Level: 28 Posts: 94/139 EXP: 129926 Next: 1412 Since: 02-19-07 From: Rochester, NY Last post: 5804 days Last view: 5711 days |
Posted by iamstillhiro1112 I attribute it to you being a faggot. And pending approval isn't banning, dumbass, it's meant to restrict posting after the trial period. If you manage to get caught in there, you're probably an idiot. ____________________
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 45/66 EXP: 42446 Next: 7497 Since: 03-09-07 Last post: 6128 days Last view: 6120 days |
Not this time around. I had passed the test, and was a regular member, and that membership was reverted, right around the time you made the post about pending approvals.
And not knowing "What is the name of the level specific programming routines that are triggered only when certain conditions are fufilled in-game?" (one of the questions asked to get past pending approval) isn't something everyone knows. If you asked the average person on the street they wouldn't immediately know the answer. Or even "How long is each object's status table in Sonic 2?". I'm not the only one who found these tests ridiculous as you remember. http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,3267.0.html |
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Red Koopa Level: 28 Posts: 95/139 EXP: 129926 Next: 1412 Since: 02-19-07 From: Rochester, NY Last post: 5804 days Last view: 5711 days |
Posted by iamstillhiro1112 Hi there buddy, learn to read! You're in pending retest, not pending approval. Everybody was put through that, and you're no exception. If you want back in, pass the test. Simple as that.
Uh... no shit? The point is to research the answers to prove that you have the ability to do so, S2B isn't for your random internet idiot. For example, the answers to both those questions can be answered with a simple forum search, or even a google search. Don't whine to me if you can't handle that, since you know where the door is. I also won't be responsible for arrogance on taking the test. Knowing their skill, however, I HAVE offered them board invites to pass the test. Whether or not they choose to accept them is up to them. Do you think that just because other people share your opinion, it makes you right, or something? And opinion is not fact, dear, and you're doing little more than making yourself look like a bigger idiot than I initially anticipated you to be. Seriously, stop trying to blame everything on one person and look at the bigger picture here. ____________________
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