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 Red Cheep-cheep Level: 35 Posts: 141/221 EXP: 260471 Next: 19465 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6115 days Last view: 6151 days |
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19aqw_americans-are-not-stupid-with-subti
Not knowing how many sides a triangle has is still unforgivable. I don't give a damn if you don't know who Tony Blair is. |
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 Paratroopa Level: 30 Posts: 45/154 EXP: 151508 Next: 14361 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6112 days Last view: 6125 days |
Considering how many people outside the US know who George W. Bush is, don't you think it's in peoples' interests to be aware of foreign affairs? >=( |
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Level: 46 Posts: 72/416 EXP: 672617 Next: 39157 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 4394 days Last view: 3102 days |
Ah CNNNN, how I <3 thee.
I remember seeing that one when it was aired on TV. |
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 Flurry Level: 37 Posts: 44/256 EXP: 324720 Next: 13533 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5694 days Last view: 4170 days |
Posted by Kasumi-AstraNot that I totally disagree, but Bush has a significantly higher profile than most heads of state/government "What's the religion of Israel?" wow, just wow. (same goes for Buddhist monks) "Who won the Vietnam war?" <- lol, I actually thought the bitch was delirious enough to really believe that! ... I was going through to pick out the most retarded ones, but there were too many... |
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Paratroopa Level: 30 Posts: 46/154 EXP: 151508 Next: 14361 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6112 days Last view: 6125 days |
Posted by CGXPosted by Kasumi-AstraNot that I totally disagree, but Bush has a significantly higher profile than most heads of state/government That doesn't mean other heads of state or other countries should be insignificant. I could tell you who Angela Merkel, Jaques Chirac and John Howard is- it's not as difficult a question as "who is the head of State of Germany". Given that Britain and the US have close diplomatic and commercial ties, not to mention language, it should be an easy question for US citizens. Mind you, I don't give much hope to the answers you'll get from dirty chavs you find on the streets of the UK  |
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 Spike fuck~ Level: 58 Posts: 322/722 EXP: 1538048 Next: 39498 Since: 02-19-07 From: Pittsburgh, PA Last post: 5299 days Last view: 2587 days |
I don't think its that they're insignificant, I just think its that they're not doing incredibly stupid things and going on a world tour bragging about it.
Personally, I don't really care who the head of State for Germany is, I don't ever plan to go to Germany, or work for the German government, or wipe my ass with German toilet paper, so really to the average American its about as useful as knowing who won jeopardy last week, only jeopardy sounds better at the water cooler. ____________________ |
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Paratroopa Level: 30 Posts: 47/154 EXP: 151508 Next: 14361 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6112 days Last view: 6125 days |
Does it surprise you how much US politics is in the European news?
At the moment, all eyes are on what's happening in France. I expect the layman on the street to be completely clueless about politics, but it surprises how many people here say they don't care. I guess you might not know, but it's quite disappointing to hear that you don't care. |
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 Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 278/389 EXP: 608268 Next: 3017 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6176 days Last view: 5939 days |
setz, that is a pretty weak argument against not knowing about German politics. It is best to know as much as you can about politics anywhere in the world so that you know what your interests are in any given foreign policy adventure that the government chooses. I don't actually use too many products from, say, Armenia. I do all I can to understand opposition forces in the country, understand current geopolitical currents, etc. going on with the country.
Additionally, there was a book released a few years ago called "The Benevolent Dictatorship". It was an interesting read and took a look at the reign of Jean Chretien as Canada's Prime Minister. It took an indepth look at his choices in office (he was into delegation of duties) and the choices of previous Prime Ministers like Mulrooney, Trudeau, Turner, etc. It came to the conclusion that a Prime Minister that knows how to balance delegation of certain portfolio duties and centralization of power is effectively the most powerful leader in the Western world, when that PM has a majority government. A Canadian Prime Minister does not have to hold a vote to declare war, a Prime Minister has complete control over various aspects of the democratic process. The latter point is very important. The caucus of the majority party is completely under control of the Prime Minister, he can order gags and basically force his benchers (back or front) to vote along with whatever legislation he wants. Again, the Prime Minister (as leader of the party in power) also has complete control over party machinery. It is slightly scary, when you think of it. The Canadian Prime Minister has less checks and balances on their power than the President of the United States or France, and leaps and bounds of less control factors than say chancellor of Germany. Mind you, the Canadian Prime Minister is a surprisingly influential character around the world. When the Canadian Prime Minister says something that is considered important it is usually heeded around the world, mostly because Canada is the Americans' closest historical ally and can be seen as a bit of a thermometre on certain aspects of world policy (particularly energy). Anyways, the world is full of people who just don't care about knowledge or simply haven't been educated properly. There is nothing you can do about it, however the United States has consistently put out the image of the all powerful empire of transportation and knowledge. To people who are on the outside looking in on the culture of the United States of America it is a good form of comedy. I can never understand why people get so sensitive about a one-sided interview meant for humour and not a serious sociological study with major control biases. |
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Spike fuck~ Level: 58 Posts: 324/722 EXP: 1538048 Next: 39498 Since: 02-19-07 From: Pittsburgh, PA Last post: 5299 days Last view: 2587 days |
Posted by Ziff but to be honest, as an American citizen I have no reason to give a shit about the affairs of other countries or even this own, because as one man, specifically one man who doesn't work or vote, it doesn't effect me nearly as much as you'd think. The people who should know and need to know that are the people who eventually get voted into power (or the common tale is the person with the biggest wallet gets voted into power, but I like to think its a little of both tipped in the favor of the latter) Maybe its because I only care about news that directly effects myself, but I don't see how not knowing about Zimbabwe's relations with Egypt is going to make my life any harder. As for biases, I find it hard to believe that anything written in English is really neutral. ____________________ |
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 Beezo Level: 49 Posts: 175/480 EXP: 832105 Next: 51778 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 5777 days Last view: 5642 days |
I'd like to know a bit more about politics than I do, but American politics alone manage to continually disgust me, and I don't think I'll spend hours online researching political affairs of other countries. The main problem is that's what you have to do if you want to learn about other countries' politics here. Our news is crap, they just spout the basic stories every day, and they don't even tell you the names of any of the leaders they're speaking about. For example, they say "The blah of blah" as opposed to "Phil Johnson, the blah of blah" I know if I decided to spend time online researching I could get things like this in a few seconds, but even something like finding the name of the leader of every country would take at least an hour, not to mention I'd not remember most of them unless I studied them every day for a while. And that's just the names, I'd have to spend much more time studying the political affairs of the countries, and frankly, I don't really have that much time to kill. Even knowing everything about a select few countires, the "important" ones, would take chunks of time out of my day that I don't have. ____________________ There are things I want to put here. Like a cool picture, my 8-bit theatre character test result, my MS and RO characters... But it's 12 AM, and I'm sleepy. |
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Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 284/389 EXP: 608268 Next: 3017 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6176 days Last view: 5939 days |
Posted by setzPosted by Ziff 1. That is called a failure of the person. You're debasing yourself by just cutting yourself off. It is a cheap way to escape being accountable for your own choices in a democracy. 2. Way to blow a point away. That is too specific to matter, but anyone should know what bills are being put forward in the legislative bodies of their region. It is very, very important. Again, avoiding the reality of knowing just a trickle of whats going on in your own country and abroad is just causing you to lose your power within a democracy. The guy with the money may get elected, but you're the one who in part chooses who gets into office. 3. You kind of missed the point there. If I had wanted to talk about linguistic biases then I woul have. I brought up the fact that it was not a serious study and was an exercise in humour. |
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 Red Goomba Possible banned, re-registering user. Log-in without using a proxy and private message an admin for potential unbanning. Level: 17 Posts: 22/43 EXP: 22225 Next: 2518 Since: 05-03-07 Last post: 6207 days Last view: 6164 days |
I once met someone who thought Swift was horrible for proposing that children be skinned and eaten. |
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