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Sinfjotle
Posted on 05-07-07 06:08 PM Link | Quote | ID: 33648


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The code doesn't just enable pirating, it enables using it on platforms that aren't supported by said creators who locked it down so they could make more money off their hardware.

DarkSlaya
Posted on 05-07-07 09:53 PM Link | Quote | ID: 33676


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Posted by Where's Waldo?
I'm not going to take a side on this, but I'll say this: if inventors know that their work can and will be widely and easily taken without credit--fiscal or otherwise--they won't have any incentive to create. And there are so many fewer successful inventors and creators than there are pirates.


The way I see it is: I paid for the fucking movie, I paid for the fucking hardware; let me watch the movie with whatever software I want.

Xkeeper
Posted on 05-08-07 12:29 AM Link | Quote | ID: 33713


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Posted by Where's Waldo?
I'm not going to take a side on this, but I'll say this: if inventors know that their work can and will be widely and easily taken without credit--fiscal or otherwise--they won't have any incentive to create. And there are so many fewer successful inventors and creators than there are pirates.
Piracy never stopped anyone in the VHS days, when copying a video was as easy as owning two VCRs and having a blank tape.

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Darkdata
Posted on 05-08-07 12:30 AM (rev. 2 of 05-08-07 12:31 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 33714


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Posted by Xkeeper
Posted by Where's Waldo?
I'm not going to take a side on this, but I'll say this: if inventors know that their work can and will be widely and easily taken without credit--fiscal or otherwise--they won't have any incentive to create. And there are so many fewer successful inventors and creators than there are pirates.
Piracy never stopped anyone in the VHS days, when copying a video was as easy as owning two VCRs and having a blank tape.


Photocopying, typing it out by hand, recording off the radio...
I am in agreement with xkeeper here.

Also people should have the right to play their media on whatever they want.

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Posted on 05-08-07 01:39 AM (rev. 3 of 05-08-07 03:45 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 33737

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DRM doesn't do shit to stop piracy. Look at Macrovision. Yeah, does a decent job of preventing one from copying a DVD onto a VHS tape. But how does this stop pirates from copying the disc in their PC, which doesn't involve a VCR at all? And if for some reason they were copying to tape (say to sell where DVD players weren't yet common), they could buy a $20 adapter or one of the brands of VCR that isn't affected. Meanwhile, legitimate users can't so much as connect their player through their VCR like they do with all their other equipment.


But this is the best example: How does disabling the Fast Forward button during the advertisements stop piracy?

Also look at CDs. Unlike other forms of media these were purely digital, had no copy protection in most cases (or piss-poor protection that could be defeated by holding Shift or doodling on the disc), and existed (and still exist) in the era when the Internet was mainstream. Any random idiot could go buy a CD, put it in their computer, copy it, and put it on KaZaA. But did the music industry die? Hell no. CDs are still produced and sold strongly today. The same applies to DVDs once their encryption was broken.

HD-DVD and Blu-ray use the following "protections", all of which only serve to harm consumers:
  • AACS, that is, encryption. Playback on a computer means buying a crappy proprietary player and running Windows XP or Vista.
  • HDCP, a way of keeping the video encrypted until it reaches the monitor. Your player, TV/monitor, and in the case of a computer your video card all must support HDCP. The movies can specify that video should be severely downscaled or entirely disabled if not all of these conditions are met, but apparently software players tend to ignore this and just not run at all with encrypted movies. In my experience HDCP-compliant equipment isn't especially common so there's a good chance you need an upgrade or two.
  • Blank discs cost as much as movies. Great for those who want to use them for data storage. Burners are no small investment either.
  • Many discs contain invalid filesystems (plain DVDs tend to do this too), rendering them unreadable by computer drives entirely - even if you did go out and buy that software player and new equipment some of your discs may still not play.
  • Region coding on Blu-ray. Forget about importing or buying videos while on vacation.
  • Blu-Ray's not-yet-used-probably-never-will-be BD+ "protection". The player runs an OS that loads a program from the disc to do the decryption. So emulating the OS means defeating the system, and there's the possibility of putting viruses on the disc. Fun!


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