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Kasumi-Astra
Posted on 05-02-07 12:29 PM Link | Quote | ID: 32277


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Posted by Xkeeper
Honestly, I'm very happy that Digg eventually decided to move in the user's interests, for a variety of reasons:

- It shows that not everyone will just up and go "OH WELL!" and take down content with a DMCA notice without a fight to prove that it damn well should go down

- It shows that Digg really is about its users and not just the people behind the scenes

- It actually shows a community fighting against what they believe in

I'm not a open-source-lulz person, but I can say outright that things like the DMCA have been fucking everyone over and only making problems worse, and it's fucking time everyone starts standing up against it.


It's going to test the Digg concept to the absolute limit, especially if it gets tried legally. I think you'd be better off sueing the internet for posting the number absolutely everywhere- you just can't deny that internet users can't be prevented from doing what they want- and you can't possibly begin to prosecute them.

It is a going to be a good thing to see how Digg handle it, because it could set a precedent for the rest of the web.

Ailure
Posted on 05-02-07 12:38 PM Link | Quote | ID: 32279

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Meh, I hold myself to slashdot. News might be slow, but the comments there feels so much more insightful, and I know for sure it doesn't get censored easily...

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Zidane
Posted on 05-02-07 04:50 PM Link | Quote | ID: 32297

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Mmm... I've always thought of the internet as a way to share what you have with others. It's like having thousands of people friends come over to watch a movie, minus the part where they have to visit. =D

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Posted on 05-02-07 07:03 PM Link | Quote | ID: 32302


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I wanted to post this last night, but it was really late and I hadda hit the bed.

Posted by Kles
They can never win. Don't they get it? Pretty much every encryption/protection can and will be broken.


True indeedy, I remember that "Hot Coffee Mod" uproar, that was funny stuff. xD

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Posted on 05-02-07 07:15 PM Link | Quote | ID: 32305


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Posted by TheGreatGuy
Eventually stuff like the DMCA is going to get so out of hand that all hosting services based in America will go out of business, everyone will want their site hosted out of the country so they don't have to deal with their crap.


Russia is where it's at - they don't give a fuck what you host and are don't like playing ball with the rest of the westen world.

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Posted on 05-02-07 07:42 PM Link | Quote | ID: 32311


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Yeah... half of my software equipment (among them MS Visual Studio .NET 2003 Enterprise Edition and Flash MX 2004) , was bought for the equivalent of roughly US$3 in St. Petersburg street stores (you have like two of those on every crossing in downtown, makes me wonder how they don't push each other out of business), though it is half-outdated now because that was like back in 2004. It's awesome.

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Posted on 05-02-07 07:58 PM Link | Quote | ID: 32314


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Last view: 5830 days 		I just want to mention one thing here, sort of as the alternative view point (which nobody has so far expressed), and then I will hopefully be done with this thread:

I know it's ridiculous to try and copyright / censor a number, and that it will get around the internet eventually all the way, and that the MPAA will just have to get a new system for all it's new HDDVDs. However, do at least feel some pity for the workers in this situation; not the starlets and directors getting paid millions to make these movies but the tons of ordinary dudes involved in movie production. While this may be a cool tech toy and stuff, you still cannot justify internet piracy (which, if I understand correctly, this will lead to). The movie industry is going to lose still more money this year because of people downloading HDDVDs - Maybe not a lot this year, but if they didn't fight back I bet it'd be a lot worse. Maybe you don't like it's prices, or maybe you don't think the majority of movies are quality, but that still gives you no right to use their product without paying for it; if you hate the movie industry for something the proper thing would be to not buy OR download movies.

All I'm saying is that, if you like the movies that the industry produces, you can show your support by actually paying for them and not just downloading copies made via this byte.

Xkeeper
Posted on 05-02-07 08:51 PM Link | Quote | ID: 32319


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HyperHacker
Posted on 05-03-07 12:08 AM (rev. 3 of 05-03-07 12:21 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 32353

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Posted by Xkeeper
Posted by Pac
So aren't the people who are losing money from this probably going to stop producing DVDs?

Pardon me if I'm horribly wrong
DeCSS never stopped anyone from making DVDs.
Nor did the complete lack of DRM on video tapes, audio CDs and tapes, 8-tracks, records, etc stop those from being made. If you went back to the time audio tapes were ~1 year old, and told people you were making a "protected" tape that could only be played on your player that doesn't support copying and doesn't have a convenient headphone jack to connect to a recorder's line in jack, I can only imagine the laughs you'd get.

Posted by Xkeeper
It allows for other uses, too, like being able to watch DVDs on players that aren't "100% Hollywood Satisfied", like VCL.
You mean VLC? Yeah, without breaking the encryption, your choices are limited to crappy commercial software that works only on Windows, and studios can choose to have the movie rendered at sub-DVD resolution (AFAIK all of them do this so far except for two that don't use any protection) or not play at all if you don't have HDCP-compliant software, video card, cables, monitor, sound card and stereo system. I've spent a lot of money on my A/V equipment and it's very nice equipment that should still last a few years at least, but none of it is HDCP-compliant. HDCP doesn't even offer any advantages to the user, only lolencryption. After decrypting the movie you can play it on whatever the fuck you want, remove unskippable ads (how do these prevent piracy again?), make backups (DVD rot anyone?), etc.

What's even funnier is that 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 is the "processing key", as they call it, that all currently-pressed discs use. This is funny for two reasons:
1) They can use a different key for new discs. It's not a master key or anything, they were just stupid enough to use the same key for all of them.
2) AFAIK, processing keys are intermediate keys. That is, you need some other key to get a processing key and you need that to get a third key. The third would be stored on the disc and I think the first is in the players or drives. With those, they might be able to argue that it's a portion of a copyrighted program or movie, but with an intermediate key, it's not stored in either of those places. It'd be like me saying you can't post the string 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A because that, XORed with some other string, forms my credit card number.

Also, lol @ Digg, still down.

[edit] Hm, one could say the key is simply "FUCK THE MPAA!!!" XORed with 4F AC 52 49 BD 20 AB 1E F8 0C 06 84 22 77 A9 E1. Neither of those are copyrighted.

Katelyn
Posted on 05-03-07 12:19 AM Link | Quote | ID: 32357

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If the MPAA wants to nuke every site with this "forbidden" string (well, hosted on American servers), then so be it.

But, still, why do they need the Digital Restrictions Management? I mean, even Apple is doing away with some of their dumb DRM...

Ailure
Posted on 05-03-07 12:22 AM Link | Quote | ID: 32359

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Posted by HyperHacker
[edit] Hm, one could say the key is simply "FUCK THE MPAA!!!" XORed with 4F AC 52 49 BD 20 AB 1E F8 0C 06 84 22 77 A9 E1. Neither of those are copyrighted.
You're hardly the first one that XOR stuff with the keycode.

I'm thinking about trying to XOR the key with a 'offensive' picture (the key would of course be repeated of course to fill up the whole image.)

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HyperHacker
Posted on 05-03-07 12:36 AM (rev. 2 of 05-03-07 12:47 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 32361

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$ii = 0;

//Default to "FUCK THE MPAA!!!" (exclamations added to pad to 16 bytes)
$text = Array(0x46, 0x55, 0x43, 0x4B, 0x20, 0x54, 0x48, 0x45, 0x20, 0x4D, 0x50, 0x41, 0x41, 0x21, 0x21, 0x21);

if(strlen($_SERVER['QUERY_STRING'])) //if we have a string
{
$str = urldecode($_SERVER['QUERY_STRING']); //decode it ("omg%20wtf" -> "omg wtf")
$len = strlen($str);
if($len > 16) $len = 16; //take only the first 16 characters

//Copy the characters' values
for($ii = 0; $ii < $len; $ii++)
$text[$ii] = ord($str[$ii]);

//If less than 16 characters fill the remaining items with 0xAA, a nice bit pattern (zero would do nothing)
for($ii = $len; $ii < 16; $ii++)
$text[$ii] = 0xAA;
}

//zomg illegal number
$key = Array(0x09, 0xF9, 0x11, 0x02, 0x9D, 0x74, 0xE3, 0x5B, 0xD8, 0x41, 0x56, 0xC5, 0x63, 0x56, 0x88, 0xC0);

for($ii = 0; $ii < 16; $ii++)
printf("%02X ", $key[$ii] ^ $text[$ii]);
?>



This PHP script will XOR the key with the first 16 bytes of any random string you give it. Example: lol.php?AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or lol.php?foo or lol.php?%FE%CE%5F%EC%E5 and so on in that fashion.

Also, here's the key as a tile on a Game Boy:

I should try to work that into a game somehow. With some palette trickery it might make a decent grass tile or something.

Ailure
Posted on 05-03-07 05:18 PM (rev. 2 of 05-03-07 06:39 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 32593

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Game over for AACS?

Well, if that is true.

It's interesting to note that both Blu-ray and HD-DVD uses AACS...

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Posted on 05-04-07 02:45 AM Link | Quote | ID: 32706


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Posted by HyperHacker


Also, here's the key as a tile on a Game Boy:

I should try to work that into a game somehow. With some palette trickery it might make a decent grass tile or something.


Find where Pokemon Blue store the image for Missingno. and stick it there.

HyperHacker
Posted on 05-05-07 04:03 AM (rev. 3 of 05-05-07 05:25 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 33000

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Posted by Ailure
Game over for AACS?

Well, if that is true.

It's interesting to note that both Blu-ray and HD-DVD uses AACS...
Old news (at least for Doom9 members ), but yeah, they hacked the Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive to give up important info without authentication. Quite possible to do for Blu-ray too, but nobody cares.

BTW I found this Gameshark code for Zelda OoT on some random Japanese website:
09F91102 9D74
E35BD841 56C5
635688C0 ????
Any idea what it's supposed to do? Nevermind that the code types are all invalid, it should still do something, but I tried it in the Japanese and US versions and nothing happened. The description was just ASCII garbage with the word "debug" in it.

joe
Posted on 05-05-07 10:41 PM (rev. 2 of 05-05-07 10:44 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 33128


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Last view: 6094 days 		That's odd. If I knew more Japanese I might be able to read the site but Google will have to do.

Incidentally, I managed to get Google to translate some interesting results with Unicode characters. Does "Smilingly identical Ju Yin" mean anything to you? 鵴囅捖裀?

HTML character codes: ৹ᄂ鵴�囅捖裀

Inserting FFFE* followed by the code in a Hex editor: 契ȑ璝寣䇘앖噣삈

...If I get back to programming, this goes in ALL of my programs.

*This is an indicator that the file is unicode.

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Katelyn
Posted on 05-05-07 11:40 PM Link | Quote | ID: 33143

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Heh, it even uses the first 15 hex digits as the colour codes xd

TheGreatGuy
Posted on 05-06-07 12:53 AM Link | Quote | ID: 33161


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Posted by Katelyn
Heh, it even uses the first 15 hex digits as the colour codes xd

That's the point. It looks awesome, I'd sig it atleast for a few days, if sigs existed. I'd scale it down a bit though. Maybe a waving version as a title picture? If I can get it to wave, I will.

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Posted on 05-07-07 07:48 AM Link | Quote | ID: 33584

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Where's Waldo?
Posted on 05-07-07 07:53 AM Link | Quote | ID: 33588


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