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 Red Paragoomba Level: 20 Posts: 44/60 EXP: 36846 Next: 5593 Since: 02-19-07 From: Cloud Nine, Turn Left and I'm There~ Last post: 6127 days Last view: 6078 days |
I blame Eisenhower and the US highway system. ____________________  |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 707/3965 EXP: 19794020 Next: 262676 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3311 days Last view: 2061 days |
Public transportation is good, main reason I hadn't gotten a driving license... public transportation is good enough. And it's actually cheaper than using cars, and our system is pretty good. I dare to say that I can get to most places in Sweden from where I live, without even touching a car. And it's cheap too.
Oil-rationing might work better than raising taxes. But how do you decide how much fuel each invidiual needs? We can't depend on gasoline for much longer. And remember, there's other things we use the oil for than just gasoline. Of course, we can make oil from coal which we have plenty of but... I don't think it's a good idea to keep releasing CO2. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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 Porcupo Level: 41 Posts: 112/317 EXP: 447472 Next: 32673 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5942 days Last view: 3151 days |
Posted by XkeeperWhere's the money going to come from to overhaul the public transportation systems of the entire nation? Posted by AilureQuotas aren't the answer, either. You'll just end up with a black market of some sort to compensate for the leftover demand of people who need (or think they need) more than is alloted to them. Not to mention the costs of having to perform oversight over this whole thing would be quite large. ____________________  |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 709/3965 EXP: 19794020 Next: 262676 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3311 days Last view: 2061 days |
Heh, I forgot about the black market. Reminds me about WWII, where a common gift was to give each other rations as gift here in Sweden. There probably was a black market as well...
Posted by Dr_Death16Tax-Payers obviously. Of course, you could cut down parts of the budget... ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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Porcupo Level: 41 Posts: 113/317 EXP: 447472 Next: 32673 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5942 days Last view: 3151 days |
Posted by AilureAmericans already think they pay too much in taxes (although if you look at European countries with large welfare states such as your own, we pale in comparison in that battle.) It'd take a lot of convincing to get them to agree to something huge like this, though it certainly isn't out of the question. There'll come a time when necessity demands action on the subject, and nobody will complain then.Posted by Dr_Death16Tax-Payers obviously. Of course, you could cut down parts of the budget...  ____________________ |
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beh Level: 86 Posts: 1423/1816 EXP: 6134522 Next: 7585 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 6155 days Last view: 6155 days |
Bah, my car died, I won't be needing gas for a while, as I will be using the bus  |
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Happy Hour! Level: 81 Posts: 942/1556 EXP: 4852986 Next: 139863 Since: 03-25-07 Last post: 2685 days Last view: 2683 days |
All of you who have Public Transportation suck. In this rathole of a town I live in we had one cab company. They went under. Sure we have buses but it's only for old people. Now if only someone could make decent public transportation in the United States a majority of the people might actually use it. ____________________ 
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 Flurry Level: 37 Posts: 232/251 EXP: 315273 Next: 22980 Since: 02-19-07 From: Mirabel, Québec, Canada Last post: 6189 days Last view: 1822 days |
Flurry #&postrank& Posted by AnyaIt's almost $4.00 here, and it was still worse in late 2005 ... then just look at Europe, twice as high
But I think a large part of the price depends on the base oil cost (and import), not the gas companies, so they don't have much of a choice if they want to make any profit at all ... I don't drive so I'm still not too concerned, but it does affect public transportation costs as well  ____________________ |
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Done. Level: 79 Posts: 405/1471 EXP: 4472928 Next: 106539 Since: 02-19-07 From: ??? Last post: 6096 days Last view: 6088 days |
Posted by Anya Hence prepay. Locally the Valero stations were averaging 500-1000 dollars loss of gas a week. We had no choice than to change to pay at the pump or inside first. Rarely, if ever, now do I hear of a drive-off. Before though? Commonplace weekly...and gas in AR isn't close to the highest...it's around the lower average. |
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 Spike Dragon Level: 57 Posts: 381/705 EXP: 1484091 Next: 1837 Since: 02-19-07 From: 
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In VA, it's about the cheapest gas around, last I heard. Then again, that was about a year ago.
Ever since I came to college, I haven't used my car. I didn't even bring it here with me. I just walk everywhere. Though, it helps that a lot of the major places I need to go (food, groceries (as in drinks that I keep in my fridge), classes, etc) are within a very decent walking distance from each other, and from my dorm (and even the dorm I'll be in next year). However, lately, a few of my floormates and I have been taking these hikes up to the "University Mall" (basically a shopping center which is JUST outside campus, but it has McDonalds, Dominos, some kind of "grille" place, Giant (as in the grocery store), etc) to eat McDonalds (because on-campus Burger King *SUCKS*, and Damons has much better cheeseburgers, but is more expensive), and go to Giant. For example, we went there today, and I bought a 6 pack of 20 fl oz bottles of A&W rootbeer (about 3.5 liters), where at the convenience store on campus, to get that amount of soda would cost more. I also got a huge 1.75L bottle of orange juice, where the convenience store never carries any drinks that large. Erm, anyway, the point of that is even though it's a long walk, we still go there. Good exercise (especially carrying stuff back to the dorms ). Nope, haven't needed my car here yet. I'd only need it to go back home, since I live (theoretically) 20 minutes away, and I don't do that often.
If it counts towards anything, all of the service vehicles here on campus use environmentally friendly fuel. I can't remember if it's hybrid, or if it's corn fuel (or whatever it is), but I know it's definately not the normal stuff. ____________________  |
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Gone Level: 88 Posts: 1566/1881 EXP: 6467062 Next: 183602 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6156 days Last view: 6146 days |
Screw America. It's way too screwed up to even be worthwhile anyway. The government just makes the rich richer, the culture is just awful (especially the music), Americans can't use public transportation or live in cities...I can't wait to move to Europe forever and never set foot in the USA again. |
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 Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 14/189 EXP: 205994 Next: 448 Since: 02-19-07 From: Brooklyn, NY Last post: 5042 days Last view: 2669 days |
Mm, yes, I'm sure Europe's just dying to have an obnoxious, egotistical American expatriate move in. ____________________ andrew sylvester dot com | retrogaming @ robot vaudeville |
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Posted by XkeeperYeah, the public transportation here is lame. Cabs are expensive, and buses run on a stingy schedule: every half hour between some stupid time like 10 and 4, and every hour from 8-10 and 4-7, and even less on weekends. And they're often late, sometimes they don't even show up. It makes them useless, I can't take the bus to work if it can't get me there on time reliably. |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 88/180 EXP: 191453 Next: 14989 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5974 days Last view: 5966 days |
Posted by KernalI swear, every goddamn post I see from you is bitching about America. |
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 Bloober Level: 47 Posts: 124/444 EXP: 740034 Next: 26169 Since: 03-20-07 Last post: 5439 days Last view: 5830 days |
Posted by Kernal You realize that you will just be trading one set of problems for another, correct? I want to critique pretty much every point you made but since this an oil thread I'll leave it at that. |
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 Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 295/383 EXP: 594258 Next: 17027 Since: 02-19-07 From: California Last post: 5476 days Last view: 5476 days |
I get gas once every two weeks or so, because I get good mileage and don't have to go too far to get from school to home to work, etc. Chances are I won't need gas that day, anyway. And if I do end up gettling low around that time, I'll just fill it up Monday. It doesn't really make a difference when you think about it, but unfortunately I haven't figured out a way of living my current life without my car. That's how it is for most people. |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 68/181 EXP: 193046 Next: 13396 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6107 days Last view: 2894 days |
(sigh) Good to see no one's jumping in to say it's a good idea after this thing's been debunked. 
Although some of us basically have to drive ourselves... depending on public transportation's kind of out of the question when I have to cover games, and they're way too far to bike, walk, etc. Necessary evil yes? Maybe biodiesel's a good stopgap option. |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 262/309 EXP: 430640 Next: 10669 Since: 02-19-07 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6132 days Last view: 6108 days |
I'm glad that public transportation is so cheap here. :\
$65/month gets me unlimited bus/subway access. And it's great because it's a 30-second walk to the bus stop, then I go to the subway and take a 3-minute walk to work. Plus I can head downtown/to the local mall fairly easily. And most of the crazies are gone when I get home anyways. |
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 Red Cheep-cheep Level: 35 Posts: 120/221 EXP: 260472 Next: 19464 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6115 days Last view: 6151 days |
It's a potentially good idea.
It just isn't a practical one. |
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Level: 48 Posts: 186/458 EXP: 777083 Next: 46460 Since: 02-19-07 From: The Void Last post: 3039 days Last view: 3039 days |
Actually, burning the gas is the best way to hit the gas companies. If everyone burns up all the gas, there won't be any left to sell, and so the profits go from high to zero. See what I mean?
If you slow it down, then it'll be able to persist longer than it could otherwise. In the short term, gas use is bad, but in the long term, it'll straighten itself out. |
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