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| Main - General Chat - Gas Boycott | New thread | New reply |
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Level: 45 Posts: 232/398 EXP: 629210 Next: 30954 Since: 02-22-07 From: South Florida Last post: 4764 days Last view: 1675 days |
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 Lantern Ghost Level: 60 Posts: 256/766 EXP: 1680412 Next: 92366 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5970 days Last view: 5777 days |
lol ____________________ I miss post headers more. |
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Level: 45 Posts: 233/398 EXP: 629210 Next: 30954 Since: 02-22-07 From: South Florida Last post: 4764 days Last view: 1675 days |
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 Super Koopa Level: 62 Posts: 111/842 EXP: 1936509 Next: 48177 Since: 02-19-07 From: durff Last post: 4494 days Last view: 4018 days |
That... doesn't even make sense. But something my old American History teacher in high school brought up was a Fourth of July Boycott for Gasoline. If nobody travelled for the 4th, perhaps that would take a reasonable amount of money out of the oil companies. Why? 4th of July is the biggest time of year for American automobile usageg (supposedly). ____________________ Zelda Hacking Forum hobbies: delectatio morosa |
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Lantern Ghost Level: 60 Posts: 257/766 EXP: 1680412 Next: 92366 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5970 days Last view: 5777 days |
As the snopes.com report says, one day will not even put a dent in anyones pocket. Try a couple of months of universal no buying of gas and maybe shit will go down. ____________________ I miss post headers more. |
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 Porcupo Level: 41 Posts: 109/317 EXP: 447366 Next: 32779 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5939 days Last view: 3148 days |
It's not worth the effort; most people cannot go a day without using gas as a necessity. Prices will drop if the market dictates it, which may be never... but we'll live. ____________________  |
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Level: 105 Posts: 1517/2846 EXP: 12034456 Next: 227804 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
Even a week of complete nonbuying would put a sizable dent in their pockets -- but it'd take a lot more than that.
Consider their absurd profits and American instinct to not use public transportaiton, and... ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Done. Level: 79 Posts: 403/1471 EXP: 4471869 Next: 107598 Since: 02-19-07 From: ??? Last post: 6093 days Last view: 6085 days |
If there wasn't any buying of gas period for several months, gas wouldn't go down...it'd crash.
More to the point, it's an impossiblity. People rely on it too heavily for everyone in the world to go 'hey, we're not pumping'. That's just like saying the same for cigarettes. If you rely on it too much, it's a likelihood that you're never going to get rid of it and that people can charge whatever the hell they want for it because they know they can out of the demand principle. Gas could go to eight bucks a gallon and people will still pay for it if there is no better alternative. I can vouch bike riding works as long as you don't go farther than a few miles and it's not too hilly and you aren't dealing with a bunch of traffic. It's not uncommon for most people, however, to commute about a half-hour or more to their jobs in a -car- much less a bike. People would rather have the convenience. |
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Porcupo Level: 41 Posts: 110/317 EXP: 447366 Next: 32779 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5939 days Last view: 3148 days |
Posted by RankoPrecisely the point. It's only in certain specific situations that not using automobiles is an option. Public transportation, also, is not a be-all end-all, considering its obvious drawbacks; also consider the fallacy of composition, which dictates that if too many people decided that using the bus or what-have-you is best for them, riding the bus would become more much more a scarce commodity and likewise more costly to the people using it. Soon enough it'd be too much of a bother to ride the bus and it'd be back to alternatives (i.e. automobiles) to getting where they want to go. ____________________ |
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 Bloober Level: 47 Posts: 116/444 EXP: 739857 Next: 26346 Since: 03-20-07 Last post: 5436 days Last view: 5827 days |
Posted by Xkeeper NO NO NO NO NO IT WOULD NOT. EVERYONE WHO THINKS THIS WILL DO EVEN A CENT OF DAMAGE IS BEING STUPID. EDIT: I had a long post typed out here but I just decided to delete it. It isn't worth yelling about this. Just read sonic and fail's post: even a week of nonbuying would not cost the gas companies a SINGLE CENT unless you actually USED LESS GAS. |
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Level: 105 Posts: 1518/2846 EXP: 12034456 Next: 227804 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
I was talking about a week, if you had actually bothered to read my post. I'm well aware that just one day would do nothing.
I would assume people would look into alternate means of transportation, too, but really -- this whole idea is still impossible and what we're discussing is only speculation. Americans love their ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Bloober Level: 47 Posts: 117/444 EXP: 739857 Next: 26346 Since: 03-20-07 Last post: 5436 days Last view: 5827 days |
Posted by Xkeeper I read the post. One week and one day costs the gas companies the same grand total, $0, unless you actually use less gas. If you fill up at the start of the week and it lasts until the end of the week you have changed absolutely nothing. |
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Level: 105 Posts: 1520/2846 EXP: 12034456 Next: 227804 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
Posted by Xkeeper ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Porcupo Level: 41 Posts: 111/317 EXP: 447366 Next: 32779 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5939 days Last view: 3148 days |
Posted by XkeeperFor most people alternate forms of transportation are impossible (or costly enough to make any argument in favor of them moot.)Posted by Xkeeper ____________________ |
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Bloober Level: 47 Posts: 118/444 EXP: 739857 Next: 26346 Since: 03-20-07 Last post: 5436 days Last view: 5827 days |
Posted by Anya The guy who wrote Freakonomics wrote a good article about these kinds of theories and peak oil. I can't seem to find it right now, but while theft might be an issue, the general idea was that as price rises demand will actually fall. More people will be willing to turn to public transportation instead of paying increasing gas prices, more people will be willing to carpool to save money, and more people will avoid road trips by car in favor of other means of transportation. |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 706/3965 EXP: 19789332 Next: 267364 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3308 days Last view: 2058 days |
I don't see what you people are complaining about.
Becuse that is cheap gas. I think the price should be more expensive so it can go towards more ecological investments. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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Level: 105 Posts: 1521/2846 EXP: 12034456 Next: 227804 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
Higher gas prices (and I mean, dollars worth) would probably cause a meltdown in the US, due to most cities not having any method of public transportation.
Add that to the fact that, unfortunately, most people are struggling to cover gas costs as it is, and you'd have a real problem. ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Bloober Level: 47 Posts: 119/444 EXP: 739857 Next: 26346 Since: 03-20-07 Last post: 5436 days Last view: 5827 days |
Posted by Ailure This will happen naturally over time; the only concern for ecologists is whether the natural weaning off gas will happen quick enough to help prevent disasters like global warming. I think it'd be better to governmentally regulate oil by rationing, rather than raising the price at the pump, anyways. Posted by Xkeeper If it suddenly shot up this would be very true, but since it is more likely to occur as a gradual process, then we are more likely to slowly integrate alternative solutions as gas prices rise. |
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Level: 105 Posts: 1522/2846 EXP: 12034456 Next: 227804 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6066 days Last view: 2803 days |
Or just by adding better public transportation. I know one of the main reasons I never take the bus is that the busses here are usually pretty fucking crappy and don't have any schedules available.
In most places, busses don't even run all week (Eagle River, AK, only runs M-F, not Saturday or Sunday) or don't go where you need them to... ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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