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HyperHacker
Posted on 05-01-07 03:41 AM (rev. 2 of 05-01-07 03:42 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 31775

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I got a Belkin Wireless G USB Network Adapter hoping to use it as a soft AP. I know this is possible, as it uses the RT2500 chipset, and Nintendo's adapter for the DS uses this as well and is capable of the same via hacked drivers. However, Windows doesn't seem to have any such feature and insists on using it to connect to the Internet. Trying to enable Internet Connection Sharing either does nothing or shows an error:

An error occurred while Internet Connection Sharing was being enabled. Internet Connection Sharing cannot be enabled. A LAN connection is already configured with the IP address that is required for automatic IP addressing.

It doesn't want to tell me which address this is but before this it was complaining that 192.168.0.1 needs to be available, so I made sure of that.

Google is giving me all manner of reviews on the Nintendo wifi adapter and places to buy wifi adapters. Nothing of any use. So has anyone done this?

I tried the Network Setup Wizard too, it just says it failed.

(BTW, the install CD that came with the adapter didn't even have the right driver for it so I had to get them off the website instead.)

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Why don't you just, uh, buy an actual AP

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HyperHacker
Posted on 05-01-07 03:44 AM Link | Quote | ID: 31777

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I bought the adapter thinking it could be used as an AP. A router is going to cost more than $50, I'm sure.

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Posted by HyperHacker
I bought the adapter thinking it could be used as an AP. A router is going to cost more than $50, I'm sure.
My router was $60 and works great.

But congrats on wasting $50, by the way, on something.

I never got the idea of buying something then trying to ahck it to bits to get it to do something another object could do better, and then whining about it when it doesn't work.

It's like buying an XBox to use as a Windows PC and then bitching when your modchip explodes.

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I am quite sure a Linksys AP will run $99...
So uh...Keep working at it?

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A Netgear router (which I've used for over 3 years) was about $60, for me.

Unless you want to go "lololrunninglinuxonarouter hahahaha!!1", then yeah, waste $90 on a Linksys.

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Posted on 05-01-07 03:56 AM (rev. 4 of 05-01-07 04:58 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 31786

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Posted by Xkeeper
I never got the idea of buying something then trying to ahck it to bits to get it to do something another object could do better, and then whining about it when it doesn't work.

It's like buying an XBox to use as a Windows PC and then bitching when your modchip explodes.
It's more a case of buying something then wondering why you have to hack it to bits to do something it should be perfectly capable of doing. (The box even says "you can share your high-speed Internet connection.")

Even if I did find a router/dedicated AP in the same price range, it won't be as convenient. Why pay the same price for something less convenient? There's no reason this shouldn't work.

[EDIT] I found a program on Belkin's web site that seems to be able to do this. I set it to "Peer to peer mode" and entered a network name, and now DS2Key on my DS sees a wireless network by that name with a signal strength anywhere between 30 and 77%. However, actual DS games don't see it at all. It's not encrypted, it's broadcasting an SSID, and it's at 2mbps. The error codes it shows are either unable to find the AP or "related to WEP key issues" (which basically means "we have no idea what the problem is so we'll blame WEP", as I get this error with a few APs that don't use encryption ).

My laptop doesn't see it either, but it only sees the 3 closest of the 11 listed on the DS.

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I recall reading somewhere that you can hack a Nintendo wifi usb thingy into a normal access point, perhaps you could do the reverse somehow?

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Posted on 05-02-07 05:05 AM Link | Quote | ID: 32200


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Hyperhacker: Manually set up the DNS, Subnet, IP, and other such details on the DS end. The DS can't use DHCP to save its own life, let alone connect to the internet. The same often goes for the Wii.

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Posted on 05-02-07 07:31 PM (rev. 2 of 05-02-07 07:33 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 32309

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Posted by HyperHacker
I bought the adapter thinking it could be used as an AP. A router is going to cost more than $50, I'm sure.

Here's a wireless router from the same company that made your USB network adapter. It's even selling for the same low price of $39.99. I bought one from Walmart a while back. Out of the box, it's one of the best wireless routers I've ever had.


Posted by Xkeeper
Unless you want to go "lololrunninglinuxonarouter hahahaha!!1", then yeah, waste $90 on a Linksys.

I'm already doing that on a $50 Linksys router. =P I don't recommend it, though. Seriously, Linksys has gone downhill.

I'll have to agree with what Xkeeper said earlier. I don't really understand why you would do something like this to save $10 (in this case, nothing) to get something to work not as well. =/ It's good to be crafty, but it's also good to do some research. D:

Edit: What do you mean by less convenient, though? If you manage to get something like that working, I don't see how it would be any better than a real wireless router. O.o

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Posted on 05-03-07 01:36 AM (rev. 2 of 05-03-07 01:37 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 32388

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Sure you can find wireless routers for $40, but can you find one at my local Circuit City, Future Shop, Walmart, or Zellers for that price?

Convenience: With a USB stick I can use it as a normal wifi adaptor if I find the need, and more importantly, it's small and requires no external power. This means I can plug it and a memory card (for the driver) into the computer at work and use it to listen to Internet radio stations on my DS. (I already tried USB speakers, couldn't find any.) I could stick a router in there as I have physical access to the existing ones, but this is going to be much more difficult and would probably get me in a load of shit if they saw me do it. Also, no router is going to fit in my pocket, especially with the power supply.

My options are as follows:
-Use a USB wifi adapter
-Use a router and pray I don't get fired when they see me fucking with their network cables
-Crack the WEP key on the wireless access point they have but never use (and I'm almost positive cracking WEP in any sane amount of time requires a lot of traffic), or get into the router config and change it (which will break things if it turns out they do use it, and requires another method to get in in the first place)
-Buy a portable stereo that can connect to a wired network to do the same job (maybe they exist, but finding one? ha!)

So there you go. Only the first option is feasible. Nintendo's DS wifi stick uses the exact same chipset as this one, so I know it's possible.

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Posted on 05-05-07 12:26 AM Link | Quote | ID: 32941


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Posted by Xkeeper
Unless you want to go "lololrunninglinuxonarouter hahahaha!!1", then yeah, waste $90 on a Linksys.


I still don't understand the point of doing that. I mean, once you've got it running Linux... what are you supposed to do with it?

DarkPhoenix
Posted on 05-24-07 07:03 AM (rev. 2 of 05-24-07 07:11 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 37951


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Sorry for the bump, didn't seem like the problem was ever solved, though.
I was looking into this about a month ago, actually. Already trashed all the links I ran into on the topic, since my card doesn't support SoftAP, but most of them seemed to be along the same lines as this - http://wiki.pocketheaven.com/Ralink_Soft_AP
More of them used an application called Segue SoftAP
For the BroadCom network adaptors, apparently if you use their network configuration utility, you can add a Registry key called "EnableSoftAP", and a new tab will appear in the configuration utility.
- http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/469092836/m/891003119731
Not sure if any of those have you covered. Either way, good luck.

Edit: Let it be known, though, that I never actually found a copy of Segue SoftAP, and I never actually did get my DS/Wii to fully connect to my PC this way.

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