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emcee

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Posted on 05-01-06 02:49 AM Link | Quote
Actually, the main reason things are so cheap on ebay is competition. If you do a search and come up with 50 people selling what you want, chances are you'll just go to the cheapest one. That and the bids are spread out over alot of different auctions. So the sellers that survive are those that have a very cheap source for whatever it is they sell.
Also, there's the shipping. Most sellers actually make some profit off the shipping. Setting the price low and the shipping high, gets people to atleast click on the link in the search results. Also, ebay doesn't charge a commission on shipping. This is why I browse with it set to show the shipping on the results page.
I use a sniping program, though. I could bid right when I see what I want, but then the person I outbid would likely come by and outbid me, pushing the price up. If I just snipe the auction the price stays the same, and I can change my mind before the auction ends if I want.
There is also alot of conartists on ebay. People who sell bootleg software, movies and games, or repackaged freeware. And generally spam every catagory with unrelated crap. And as long as they're bringing in the auction fees, ebay doesn't care, even if you specifically point the people out. Alot of them are even powersellers.
Actually, I've been working on a solution for this over he past few days.
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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 05-01-06 08:34 AM Link | Quote
Alice DID have a secure password. When my instructor Red for my Windows XP class asked her how the guy could figure out her password, she told the class (most listened, only a few kept on working on the day's assignment out of the book) that she was baffled that someone could hacked her password. It contained only special symbols.

If I remeber correctly from Red, he said, "Well Alice, you'll never know what kind of weird-ass bozos would scower the internet for accounts to hack and screw the person owning the account. That's why I always change my password for accounts I own in different websites I visit regularly."

She replied that she used to change them weekly and re-setting the password but once life got hectic (due to college, a surgeroy she had to repair rher torn kneecap in teh left leg, and her grandmother passing away a year ago) for her she just forgot about it. And he's guessed that it's when she was vunerable to hacking.

You wouldn't believe how many re-directed phonecalls she had when calling up eBay to different states to straighten thsi crap out before just giving up and cancling the account off eBay.
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 05-01-06 10:54 AM Link | Quote
Nothing but special symbols != secure. That vastly narrows the possibilities.
Xeruss

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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 05-01-06 02:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
Nothing but special symbols != secure. That vastly narrows the possibilities.


What about spaces? They provide a good degree of protection too; correct?
emcee

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Posted on 05-01-06 03:00 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
Nothing but special symbols != secure. That vastly narrows the possibilities.


Only if you know it's only special symbols.

Anyway, if her password was stolen twice, she probably had (or has) a virus.
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Since: 02-18-06
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Posted on 05-01-06 04:37 PM Link | Quote
Well, if you're going to get technical, I'm not sure whether all keystroke loggers, which is what it likely was, would be viruses. I'm really not sure of the terminology.
Hawksun

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Posted on 05-01-06 04:40 PM Link | Quote
I think Key loggers are spyware, not sure though, but seems logical to me.
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Posted on 05-01-06 06:51 PM Link | Quote
I'm pretty sure the virus designation depends on how it's spread. Keyloggers will always be spyware, but if they're transmitted a specific way, they're also viruses. Well... that sounds good to me, at least.
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Posted on 05-01-06 07:57 PM Link | Quote
One feature of viruses is that they can auto-replicate themselves to continue their contamination, but can spyware do the same thing on their own?(I'm lacking info on the subject so I don't exactly know) If so, then it would be correct to classify spyware as viruses.
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Posted on 05-02-06 12:37 AM Link | Quote
Most keyloggers would fit more with the descriptions of trojans than those of viruses, actually
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Posted on 05-02-06 12:42 AM Link | Quote
I was of the impression that trojans were a sort of virus. I could be wrong, though. I have the feeling that viruses, trojans, and spyware are largely categories which sort of bleed into each other depending on which particular features you're discussing.
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Posted on 05-02-06 12:47 AM Link | Quote
They all have different patterns, which is where their labels come from.

Trojans are set up by computer users knowledgably, although generally without them knowing it's a bad thing. Hence the name.

Virus is the generic self-propogating malware term.

(may be wrong about this) Worms are those that spread themselves quickly by using something else as a base, like a parasitic worm.
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Posted on 05-02-06 01:53 AM Link | Quote
According to Wikipedia, viruses corrupt files and applications (such as word documents, screen savers, etc.), while worms transmit on their own. Meaning... You could send someone a report for class and have a virus in it, but not a worm. Likewise a virus won't go on its own, it'll be stuck in another file.
emcee

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Posted on 05-02-06 03:09 AM Link | Quote
Trojan horses, spyware, viruses, and worms are all different things, but all forms of malware. So I guess what I should have said is she probably had malware. Although, it wasn't nessicarily a keylogger. It could have just sent her login cookie to someone else.

Also, I believe this is the distinction: Trojans appear to be something else when downloaded and/or installed. Spyware logs private information, and normally sends it to someone else. Viruses infect other files. And worms enter the system througgh a security hole in a program.

I guess there's probably some overlap. The other three could also be spyware. And a trojan or a worm could also infect files, like a virus.
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