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Pikawil  130                   Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6417 days Last view: 6325 days |
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Shorthand: Some guy made a hacked savestate with ALL features unlocked (Including download-only features. That's the important part, mind you.) and Capcom is angry. |
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Thexare Metal battleaxe Off to better places    Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6322 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| WTF.
The logic of every person there that's taken Capcom's side horribly, horribly fails. =/ I could directly pick them apart if you so desire, but that'd make this post far longer than I'd like, so lemme summarize my stance. It's a save file. It's not the full game. Capcom doesn't lose money from it, and the save file's existence does not affect how other people play the game if they chose not to use it. Lemme elaborate on the "not losing money" part - I don't know if the download-only features were supposed to require that you pay money. If they were, then it's their own fucking fault for including the content on the disk. And if not, then they're not losing anything. So why bitch about it? |
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C:/xkas bio.asm Compiled ASM code  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6322 days Last view: 6322 days |
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dumped ROM is already illegal, do that mean that dumped RAM will become illegal too (edited by Bio on 03-25-06 12:39 PM) |
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Thexare Metal battleaxe Off to better places Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6322 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Originally posted by Bio No. Save files have been publicly distributed for a long time on GameFAQs (and, I assume, other places), and nothing's been done that I know of. The reason Capcom's so pissed is that data was hidden and not supposed to be available yet. You'd think they'd learn from Rockstar's mistake. He who does not learn from history... |
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6322 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| If Capcom really wanted to hide it, they'd just make all the stuff have to be downloaded to the memory stick instead of hiding it in the game itself. Simple. | |||
LocalH Paragoomba Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6561 days Last view: 6561 days |
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Originally posted by Bio No, dumped ROM is not illegal. Distributing ROMs you don't have the right to distribute is illegal. Anyway, since this save only unlocks content that is already on the game disc (regardless of whether or not is was intended for presentation as "downloadable content"), here it is. This is no different that distributing an SMA4 save that unlocks the cape. (edited by LocalH on 03-25-06 03:41 PM) (edited by LocalH on 03-25-06 03:41 PM) |
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asdf Link's Awakening ಠ_ಠ  Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6324 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Originally posted by Colin You speak the truth, my friend. Seriously, Capcom is making a big deal over nothing here. So what if all the features were unlocked? They brought it upon themselves. At any rate, this is going to end with failure for Capcom. Look at what happened with Nintendo and Game Genie. Nintendo was angry at Game Genie for allowing players to cheat in games, but they lost the case. A similar thing happened with Pokemon, only that time, Nintendo attempted to stop the codes. They partially succeeded, but in the end, everything was able to be gotten around. No big deal. More similarly, Nintendo balked about SMA4, but eventually stopped caring. They had partial success in getting rid of some of the special saves, but just couldn't handle it all. But like Chev said, that case involved money, and this one does not. I mean, Rockstar isn't complaining about the ability to use GTA:LCS to run downloaded and homebrew software on the PSP, which is much worse than this petty little thing. Capcom is just going ape-shit because their source of mass promotion (the downloads) has been terminated. If anything, their complaining is going to encourage the spread of the file. (edited by asdf on 03-25-06 03:54 PM) |
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D 2007 D Since: 02-19-06 Last post: 6369 days Last view: 6369 days |
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Like everyone else said, Capcom brought this upon themselves... and making such a huge deal out of it is just going to make it even more hot of a topic.  |
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LocalH Paragoomba Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6561 days Last view: 6561 days |
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| It's still amazing how sycophantic some of these fanboys can be. | |||
Someguy Tooky Since: 11-17-05 From: West Virginia-USA Last post: 6327 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| I hoped the costumes were stored online and actually downloaded, thus meaning endless amounts of visual content such as costumes... oh well. | |||
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6322 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| Everything in that save was obviously in the game itself or maybe taken from Japanese downloads somehow. :\ More the former I'd think.
I'm guessing that a lot of people have large memory sticks anyways. :\ |
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LocalH Paragoomba Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6561 days Last view: 6561 days |
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Originally posted by Someguy Well, there's nothing in this incident precluding Capcom from allowing people to download additional content as well - the only point I've tried to make is that this particular "downloadable content" was already on the disc waiting to be unlocked. |
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Ten Flurry Since: 12-09-05 From: Denver Last post: 6328 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| Dang, when you use hack and Hot Coffee together I was hoping for naked Roll action.
... I wasted my 100th post on this? |
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Ailure Mr. Shine I just want peace...  Since: 11-17-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6322 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Thing with internet, when something is relesed and people actually care about it... well it's really hard to make people stop spreading it further.  |
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Sin Dogan 860  Uoodo Original Blend Armored Trooper Votoms Canned Coffee! Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6326 days Last view: 6325 days |
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| Well it's not like Capcom has anything better to do. They used to be cool, man. Now all their game franchises aren't really that great and don't get me excited at all. So they do stupid things like this. :B | |||
Valcion Knuckle Joe too much high power man  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6322 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Originally posted by Ten i'd rather hope for ciel or alia action
and colin: Not as large as my memory stick
(i couldn't resist  ) |
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Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6328 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| I can actually see why they put it all on the disc itself... If nothing else, the less you have to download to do stuff, the better, typically. Of course, they do have the slight issue of trying to get people in trouble for it, given how it's not actually illegal, but that's okay. How it plays out... will be seen later. | |||
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero  Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6322 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| Holy crap.
The admins on that site are really stupid. (Just reading through the comments page) |
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6322 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Ew.  
I'd remove any links/info on it if Capcom legal told me to do so, but I don't even know if they're allowed to do THAT. If the stuff's already in the game, well... it's MEANT to be unlocked. |
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