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Since: 01-25-06
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Posted on 02-18-06 08:14 AM Link
If you dont like anime, then dont bother comenting on that so thouroughly.
try to see the bigger picture and see that this game would have some innovative gameplay mechanics that could be kinda out of place in a mario game (without the propper edditing of course)
richyawyingtmv

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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 02-18-06 08:35 AM Link
Originally posted by Crysillion
This has got to be the worst idea for a Mario hack I've ever seen. I'm not sure why people think they can turn a mario game into some Anime shitfest. I suppose you're going to include a touching story line mixed with drama, romance, and horror too?

I don't like it, and I'm guessing criticism is welcome, so here it is. It's stupid.

This isn't KOJA NO BANSHU LOL NO JUTSU II. It's Super Mario World.


So you'd rather see the same dull, bland, samey mario hacks using the same fucking YI and Allstars rips every single time compared to this amazing work which actually tries to do something inventive and original?

You cunt.
Radiation

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Since: 11-19-05
From: Techno City, The Moon

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Posted on 02-18-06 08:38 AM Link
Wait. This looks awesome. What's up with you, Cryso... whatever? Sure, anime may be retarded sometimes, but you have to admit that these graphics are pretty good, along with the ASM hacks that're being made. Your hatred seems to have only one target: anime. So, uh, if all the anime eyes were taken out and replaced with normal eyes, it wouldn't be bad anymore?

I can only imagine what happened when you read this topic:

"Hey. This topic looks good. Oh, hey, that's pretty impressive...'
"Wait a second. Those eyes..."

"ANIME EYES."

"HOLY M%$&$F&$&ING #$&* THIS HACK IS RETARDED"

"YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE ANIME THAT'S STUPID THIS IS SUPER MARIO WORLD"

"I BET THE LAST BOSS IS GOKU AND LUIGI IS INUYASHA"

"man this hack sucks"

Also, you said "people". Has this ever been attempted before [as a Super Mario World hack]? I'm scared now. Don't worry, those were probably bad ones. This one's good.


To summarize, this hack looks amazing creative awesome and I like the graphics you're a good artist and the title screen looks professional and I don't really have any constructive criticism because you're probably not going to be working on this hack for a while anyway.

[EDIT: Look, some ideas seemed terrible and were good later. Like potatoes. And cats. Actually those are both bad examples. But I don't you can really say anything about the story until you play the hack?]


(edited by Radiation on 02-18-06 07:39 AM)
Crysillion

Red Paragoomba


 





Since: 01-10-06

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Posted on 02-18-06 10:41 AM Link
I'm sorry that you think that because I bring up anime, it has to be the eyes.

A game like this will usually have some sort of storyline, a kind of storyline that simply cannot be done in a SMW ROM no matter how many things you manage to change. It'll still be what it is... A super mario world ROM.

I did -not- say the graphics were bad, because they beat the hell out of most peoples graphics, including mine. I'm simply saying the concept isn't too great. It's over-rated.

It's a girl with a sword and a submachine gun, yet in the end, she'll have to fight bowser. I'm not sure how he plans to wing this into his story, but I'm guessing Bowser won't be bowser, but some sort of demon or some shit that looks like him.

And yes, I'm assuming jp/jb ( Forgot which letter it was now... ) is a guy. Sorry if this isn't the case.

I'm glad to see nobody has gotten pissed off at me simply because I'm not on the "Awesome job" band-wagon. Personal opinion, the game's concept blows. The graphics are pretty fucking good, but I don't see how it's going to work.

It's probably because I'm not the kind of guy to play a japanese game, and start blabbing off about how "kawaii" everything is, and calling people "baka"s.
Techokami

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Since: 12-03-05
From: Mass-uh-chew-sits USofA

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Posted on 02-18-06 10:51 AM Link
Personally, I'm mainly looking forward to the ASM stuff.
BMFSmallHacker, come with me... I need some assistance with a little ASM hacking and graphics insertion. ;D


(edited by Techokami on 02-18-06 09:51 AM)
(edited by Techokami on 02-18-06 11:23 AM)
ZTaimat

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Since: 11-19-05

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Posted on 02-18-06 12:00 PM Link
*Kicks crysillion for what he said omn the bottom of page 1*

*Bows before JP*

ALL hail emporor JP! the new God of SMW hacking!

*Fusoya and BMF glare @ ZT*



umm... yah...

(Praise JP!!)
Crysillion

Red Paragoomba


 





Since: 01-10-06

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Posted on 02-18-06 02:15 PM Link
-Kicks ZTaimat for not accepting the fact that everyones opinion is different-
Yoster

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Since: 02-03-06
From: Holland/The Netherlands

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Posted on 02-18-06 02:35 PM Link
*Kicks Crysillion because he doesn't know you should use * for actions and not -*

This looks really amazing. Probably the best mod I've see in my short time on this forum


(edited by Yoster on 02-18-06 01:35 PM)
Radiation

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Since: 11-19-05
From: Techno City, The Moon

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Posted on 02-18-06 02:43 PM Link
Well, uh, yeah you'll probably end up fighting Bowser at some point... I don't think there's much you can do about that. But with some creativity and some hard work, you can actually make "bosses" that aren't just Reznor and Ludwig fifty times in a row, BMF had a good example of that stuff. I like that stuff a lot, but I really wouldn't really mind if there weren't any bosses at all, if the levels were fun enough...

You really seem to be angry that this isn't going to work because this person seems to be aiming too high. You should at least be glad someone's trying to make something interesting and exciting. What do you propose people do about Bowser and stuff? I mean, you seem to know a lot...

Anyway, you say "the game's concept blows." Well, that's all fine and dandy, but you haven't really said why it sucks besides the fact that "YOU CANNOT CHANGE ENOUGH TO MAKE IT INTERESTING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JUMP SOMETIME IT'S A MARIO GAME" and "IT IS JAPANESE I HATE THAT OKAY" Well, uh, why do you hate Anime? I mean, it's not bad, it's just that many of the fans surrounding it are just dumb. No one has said "KAWAII" or "BAKA" yet, just you. And me, 'cause you made me. Pretty much you seem to just not like this game because it's Japanese. Yeah, I'm sick of people trying to do Japanese stuff to be cool, too, but whatever. If it plays well, I won't mind.

If you don't like the storyline or stuff, maybe you shouldn't pay attention to it? Really, you seem angry only because people are trying to push the limits of SMW... what do you propose people do? Make thousands of storyless hacks about Mario trying to save the Princess from Bowser's magic spell? Ahhh. Makes me mad. We need something new, and this hack (if JP ever picks it up again) looks original. Sure, doing Japanese sword gun stuff isn't new, but I haven't seen anybody do this for a SMW hack.
insectduel

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Since: 11-18-05
From: Bronx, New York

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Posted on 02-18-06 03:18 PM Link
Where do you get the idea from jp? This hack is so cool with your screens shown.
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Posted on 02-18-06 03:21 PM Link
*Shyguy lights candles and worships Radiation...
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Posted on 02-18-06 04:03 PM Link
To be fair, Crysillion actually had some good points. They were just kinda hard to see because a great deal of his post is utter crap.

Roms aren't meant to be turned into other games, obviously. It's an uphill battle. But for SMW everybody's going to be attempting much fancier things in their hacks because they're standing on the sholders of giants like FuSoYa, DJ Bouche, Jonwil, BMF, and maybe d4s.

But maybe that's stupid. Maybe we should have stopped with, well, Mario. Adding all these other things to SMW is like building a pyramid upside-down: eventually SMW's simplicity and balance is going to be corrupted by all these new features. I should know; I built this bizarre powerup system, probably my most advanced hack, but it corrupted the gameplay so much it just wasn't worth using.

Forcing Small Mario because your plot calls for it? That doesn't sound good. And Crysillion was right about the SMW text sounding like a recipe for disaster. Also, why, exactly, would we want Yoshi if he doesn't have his trademark tongue ability?

Even if you hacked away those problems, gave SMW advanced text, deftly handled the Small Mario situation, and gave the vehicles some awesome ability, you'd still have problems. Problems with SMW not handling NPCs. Problems with the enemies all having to be SMW's enemies. Problems with there being not nearly enough new material and too much SMW material.

Originally posted by Crysillion
It'll still be what it is... A super mario world ROM.

QFT

On the other hand...
Originally posted by richyawyingtmv
So you'd rather see the same dull, bland, samey mario hacks using the same fucking YI and Allstars rips every single time compared to this amazing work which actually tries to do something inventive and original?


Even if trying to make SMW something it's not prevents this hack from reaching its full potential, it'll still kick the crap out of most of the competition.
Xkeeper
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Since: 11-17-05
From: Henderson, Nevada

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Posted on 02-18-06 04:14 PM Link
Originally posted by richyawyingtmv
Originally posted by Crysillion
This has got to be the worst idea for a Mario hack I've ever seen. I'm not sure why people think they can turn a mario game into some Anime shitfest. I suppose you're going to include a touching story line mixed with drama, romance, and horror too?

I don't like it, and I'm guessing criticism is welcome, so here it is. It's stupid.

This isn't KOJA NO BANSHU LOL NO JUTSU II. It's Super Mario World.


So you'd rather see the same dull, bland, samey mario hacks using the same fucking YI and Allstars rips every single time compared to this amazing work which actually tries to do something inventive and original?

You cunt.
Also known as "originality is bad; trying to make another game* out of SMW is bad bad bad"

*which is what ROM hacking is, lest we forget


Also: I highly you advise shutting the fuck up about how well this hack will or will not work. Why?

YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO EVEN TEST THE GODDAMN THING YET
ALL YOU'VE SEEN ARE SCREENSHOTS


Wait until you actually get a grasp for how well a game will or will not work by being able to play it... especially when you're critiquing gameplay mechanics.
asdf

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Since: 11-18-05

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Posted on 02-18-06 04:55 PM Link
Originally posted by Crysillion
A game like this will usually have some sort of storyline, a kind of storyline that simply cannot be done in a SMW ROM no matter how many things you manage to change. It'll still be what it is... A super mario world ROM.


Technically, it would still be a SMW ROM. But he just changed the storyline, and nothing bad has happened. Besides, you're not looking at the big picture. I even know of a way (a theory, but very possible) cutscenes could be done, but I'm not revealing it because of the level of stupidity here (maybe if you ask nicely).

And as many of the more aware people mentioned, even if the points you gave for the storyline were valid ones, it'd still be better than "OMG LIEK B0WSER USED [x] TO KIDNAPP PEACH U MUST RES-Q HER TO SAVE PLANET LOL".

And besides, where the hell did he say he's going to include Bowser?


(edited by asdf on 02-18-06 04:01 PM)
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Since: 11-17-05
From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington

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Posted on 02-18-06 05:03 PM Link
Originally posted by jp
the logo is in Japanese because it looks cool
I need to murder you now. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to use Japanese text unnecessarily. It doesn't make your hack look cool, it only makes it look stupid.

As for how the hack is, I'm thoroughly skeptical. It's a lot of changes and I'm not sure it can work well with SMW's engine. Kudos to you if you pull it off, but obviously that can't happen so long as your work on it is ceased...


(edited by Alastor the Stylish on 02-18-06 04:03 PM)
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Posted on 02-18-06 05:26 PM Link
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Crysillion

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Since: 01-10-06

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Posted on 02-18-06 06:12 PM Link
Originally posted by TI-92+

Also: I highly you advise shutting the fuck up about how well this hack will or will not work. Why?

YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO EVEN TEST THE GODDAMN THING YET
ALL YOU'VE SEEN ARE SCREENSHOTS


Wait until you actually get a grasp for how well a game will or will not work by being able to play it... especially when you're critiquing gameplay mechanics.


Snap. So let me get this straight, because I'm not with everyone else and jumping to say it's a good hack, suddenly I should "shut the fuck up"? If jp didn't want criticism, he should've said so. The case here is that you're pissed off because I didn't say "Awesome hack!". I'm really sorry for being human and having different opinions then you, but if you don't like them, you'd be better off just ignoring them.

Everyone's made valid points here, but my view still stands. Sure. It can still be a good hack.

What I'm doing is the infamous "judging a book by it's cover", it's just my personality. Shut the fuck up? Why? Opinions not welcome? I didn't see that anywhere, so I'll just ignore that now. Your personal request has been denied.

I'm not here to start shit, really. I'm simply saying, some of the concepts here don't seem that great to me. I can agree on the japanese text on the title screen thing. It doesn't make it look cool. Especially considering as this is most an english-speaking forum, and alot of us ( including me ) can't even understand that text. So whats the point of it?

Basically, to me, this sounds like you're putting a game like Sonic the Hedgehog, into a game like Full Metal Alchemist. It clashes, I don't see how it can work. Note, for all you stupid people. These are opinions, not facts. -You- shut the fuck up.
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Since: 11-17-05
From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington

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Posted on 02-18-06 06:21 PM Link
Eheheh. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Well, actually, I probably would've used fewer words. Being concise is good.

But yeah, you're entirely right.


(edited by Alastor the Stylish on 02-18-06 05:38 PM)
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Since: 02-18-06

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Posted on 02-18-06 06:30 PM Link
It's Super Mario World. Adding in some attempt to pass it off as an anime with Japanese text from an American is-- well, it's just that. You're not Japanese. Stop pretending to be.

Before the Japanese Animation Nerd tries to claim jp's REALLY JAPANESE like how 5,000 other people claim on the internet...



Platformers aren't supposed to be an RPG. They're meant to be simple. This is, as Crys said, applying Full Metal Alchemist to Sonic. The spirit of the original game's engine was to be simple. Not to be some Secret Agent Girl Narutard rip-off by a wannabe japanese kid. Stop getting so defensive he's not trying to fellate jp ffs.

Have a nice day.
Disruptive Idiot

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Since: 11-17-05
From: Syosset

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Posted on 02-18-06 06:36 PM Link
On a completely unrelated note, because you're all fucking retarded and should just drop it: The logo should be in Katakana, not Hiragana. That's because Chiaki is a foreign name, I assume.
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