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Trapster

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Posted on 01-09-06 10:27 AM Link
Originally posted by Sonicandtails
Im sorry but HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DODGE A BLUE SHELL?!


Iīve actually dodged them a few times when I was in 1st place. Dunno how, though.

I was 2nd once and was passing the current leader as I heard the blue shell. But it still hit him when I was 1st. I guess the game sends data immediately when you send the shell away and takes the kart itīs locked on.

Just one thing. Are certain characters immune to certain weapons? I currently use R.O.B and he seems to be somewhat immune to bombs. Iīve had several CPU players throw bombs at me and sometimes I didnīt get hit while I could see the explosion. It was right behind me, though.

I like to throw bananas in the jump at the end in Wario Colosseum.
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Posted on 01-09-06 11:06 AM Link
Originally posted by Ran-chan
Just one thing. Are certain characters immune to certain weapons? I currently use R.O.B and he seems to be somewhat immune to bombs. Iīve had several CPU players throw bombs at me and sometimes I didnīt get hit while I could see the explosion. It was right behind me, though.


No. There is no immunities, but there is a resistance based on item and weight stats to the power of the effect. Greater weight lowers blast strength while lower increases it. Item stat has a slight influence.

Blue Shells. They lock on when they are about 2.5 seconds away from the kart in first. I hold back slightly sometimes on this fact to take the lead and win a race normaly.
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Posted on 01-09-06 12:22 PM Link
I always brake the kart when I have a blue shell in my ass but sometimes the other karts are so far back that they still donīt get hit.

I got a red shell behind me once when I drove near the wall on some track. Donīt remember what track, though. The shell came towards me from the right and disappeared into thin air the very moment before itīd hit me.

Was that a bug?
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Posted on 01-09-06 01:50 PM Link
Originally posted by Ran-chan
I always brake the kart when I have a blue shell in my ass but sometimes the other karts are so far back that they still donīt get hit.

I got a red shell behind me once when I drove near the wall on some track. Donīt remember what track, though. The shell came towards me from the right and disappeared into thin air the very moment before itīd hit me.

Was that a bug?


Hmm.. so that still exists, intresting.. So blue shells can be dodged.. the only track I know this is possible is GCN Yoshi Island. the Double Dash version had that bug, namely under the giant shell and around the tail.
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Posted on 01-09-06 02:24 PM Link
Yeah, Iīve noticed that the blue shell disappeared in MK: DD. I just sat there and was like "Oh, dammit!" and thought I was screwed.

Then it disappeared and everyone wondered wtf happened.


(edited by Ran-chan on 01-10-06 06:08 AM)
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Posted on 01-09-06 03:48 PM Link
Apparently, dodging a blue shell can only be done in 150cc... because it requires really good timing and speed to do it properly

Although, theres this weird thing where I was racing the other day, and was in second. I launched a blooper and moved into first immediately afterwards... I got hit with my own blooper
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Posted on 01-09-06 03:52 PM Link
Doesn't Blooper only affect all karts ahead of the one who launches it? So if you're in 4th and use a Blooper, the top 3 would be affected... but if you moved into 3rd before the karts get splattered with ink, you'll be affected.
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Posted on 01-09-06 05:25 PM Link
Originally posted by Colin
Doesn't Blooper only affect all karts ahead of the one who launches it? So if you're in 4th and use a Blooper, the top 3 would be affected... but if you moved into 3rd before the karts get splattered with ink, you'll be affected.

No, it doesn't do that. It only backfires if you're in first place when it activates.
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Posted on 01-09-06 05:31 PM Link
Originally posted by Trapster
I guess the game sends data immediately when you send the shell away and takes the kart itīs locked on.
No it doesn't. The blue shell has a certain vision range, which is a little more than the distance from the bottom of the bottom screen to your character, if it's in the detailed map mode. When it sees the first place person, it locks on to them. Any point before that and you can slip into second and not get hit.
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Posted on 01-09-06 05:34 PM Link
Originally posted by Kirby ATW

Although, theres this weird thing where I was racing the other day, and was in second. I launched a blooper and moved into first immediately afterwards... I got hit with my own blooper


I think Iīve gotten hit by my own red shell once.

It has happened quite often om MKD, though.
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Posted on 01-09-06 11:28 PM Link
OK, so Blooper affects everyone unless you screw up it's order. Right. :\

I used to get hit with my own red shells in Super Mario Kart. Bloody annoying.
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Posted on 01-09-06 11:37 PM Link
Originally posted by Colin
OK, so Blooper affects everyone unless you screw up it's order. Right. :\

No, much simpler than that... it affects everyone in front of the user (place-wise), but if you use it when you're in first it just hits you. I see where my previous post is confusing; what I meant was no, it doesn't hit you if you use it in fourth place then swing into third before it activates.
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Posted on 01-10-06 12:38 AM Link
Oh, so I *was* right then. Just that it only backfires if you get into first place when you activate Blooper.

Good to know.
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Posted on 01-10-06 12:58 AM Link
What would've been nice is if it hit the second-place guy only
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Posted on 01-10-06 07:10 AM Link
Originally posted by Zem
Originally posted by Colin
OK, so Blooper affects everyone unless you screw up it's order. Right. :\

No, much simpler than that... it affects everyone in front of the user (place-wise), but if you use it when you're in first it just hits you. I see where my previous post is confusing; what I meant was no, it doesn't hit you if you use it in fourth place then swing into third before it activates.


Uh, say, how fat is the chance that you get a Blooper when youīre in first?

Bananas are the most common, though.
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Posted on 01-10-06 05:55 PM Link
You get a blooper, then you refrain from using it until you're in first. ZOMG


(edited by Alastor the Stylish on 01-11-06 04:10 PM)
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Heres the place you gotta be in for items.

CAT 1 is 1st place alone.
CAT 2 is 2nd and 3rd place.
CAT 3 is 4th and 5th place.
CAT 4 is 6th, 7th, and 8th place.

Banana [CAT 1]
======
The banana is a staple in every Mario Kart game. They can be held behind your
kart, and spin you out for about 1.5 seconds upon contact. When thrown forward,
your current speed determines how far it will be thrown.

Triple Banana [CAT 1]
=============
This is essentially the same as the banana, but there are three of them. The
Items stat increases your odds of getting a triple instead of a single. Triple
Bananas follow the same physics as single Bananas.

Green Shell [CAT 1]
===========
Another classic staple of the Mario kart franchise, these things are useful in
sniping other players... if you're a good shot. You can hold one behind your
kart, and they can be thrown backwards. Green shells move slower when thrown
backwards, however. If you get hit by one, you will be stunned for about 2
seconds.

Triple Green Shell [CAT 1]
==================
This is the same as the single Green Shell, except you have three of them
orbiting around your kart. Unlike previous Mario Kart incarnations, you _can_
fire these shells behind your kart.

Fake Item Box [CAT 1]
=============
This is basically the stationary version of a Green Shell; lay it down and
watch as an unobservant driver gets pelted. Please note, however, that you
_cannot_ block a Green or Red shell with one, so don't bother trying. Upon
hitting a Fake Item Box, you will be stunned for about 2 seconds. As with the
Banana, the speed you're going at determines how far it will be thrown forward.

When laid down on the track, you can (somewhat) easily spot one by looking for
the telltale question mark inside the box. If there isn't a question mark,
it's a fake.

Mushroom [CAT 2]
========
Mushrooms have been around since Super Mario Kart, and they serve pretty much
the same purpose; speed. However, charging into another driver while 'shrooming
will result in knocking them to the side, regardless of how light or heavy your
kart is. Talk about handy!

I recently found that braking is pretty much useless while you are using a
Mushroom. It may offer a slight increase in handling for the duration of the
boost, but it will *not* slow the kart down. It can be useful for slowing
down ASAP, though.

Triple Mushroom [CAT 2]
===============
This is basically the same as a Mushroom, but in triple form. A higher Items
stat means you will get this more often.

Blooper [CAT 2]
=======
This annoying little squid can really slow down computer players and obscure
the view of human players. This item will affect every racer that is currently
ahead of you. If you are affected by a Blooper, your Items stat determines how
long the ink will stay on your screen. The lower your Item stat is, the faster
the ink will go away. Fairly simple to understand. Using a Blooper while you
are in first will result in a backfired Blooper! Be careful when using one of
these when you're close to the front of the pack.

Note: If you are affected by a Blooper, try to get a Mushroom or drive onto a
booster pad. This will quickly rid your screen of the obstructive goo. Credit
for refreshing my memory goes to freakyboy5000 at gmail dot com and War Raichu,
a fellow game enthusiast.

Red Shell [CAT 2]
=========
Everybody's favorite homing projectile, the red shell is a little smarter in
Mario Kart DS. These babies won't always take the quickest route to your
target. Instead, they'll usually strike them from the side to avoid any item
they might be carrying behind them. If a red shell is trailing you, use a
green shell, banana, or another red shell to get rid of it. You may need to
attempt a power slide or two in order to position yourself properly, though.
As with green shells and fake items, you are stunned for 2 seconds when hit.
Red shells can be held behind you and fired backwards, just like a green shell.

Also note that Red Shells will perform complete 180 degree turns to pursue
you. This renders jumping off of ramps ineffective in avoiding red shells. The
best method to rid yourself of a red shell is to hit it with a Banana, Green
Shell or a Bob-omb, or cleverly drive near a wall and coax the shell into
hitting it.

Triple Red Shell [CAT 2]
================
Red shells, in a group of 3. Basically a red version of triple green shells.
Again, a higher Items stat means you'll get these more often.

Boo [CAT 3]
===
A ghost from one of the many haunted houses in the Mushroom Kingdom. Unlike its
Super Circuit counterpart, Boo no longer slows down your opponent when you use
it on them. Instead, he just leaves them alone and simply steals the item. The
target that's chosen is random. However, if only one racer has an item, their
item will be taken. For best usage, watch the bottom screen and use the Boo
whenever you see an item you want. Another benefit to Boo is the fact that you
become transluscent upon using it, which means you can pass right through other
drivers and obstacles. You might even be able to evade the power of a Spiked
Shell!

insano31 at hotmail dot com submitted a tidbit of info I initially didn't know
about: The Boo item, in addition to being immune to attack, also allows you to
drive through rough terrain without losing any speed. This makes the Boo item
even better!

Bob-omb [CAT 2]
=======
These bad boys come in handy if you're good at laying down bananas or throwing
fake items, since Bob-ombs are used in a similar manner. These can be held
behind your kart, but I don't advise it. Upon being hit by a Bob-omb, your kart
is launched into the air, causing you to lose about 4 seconds of time. Think of
it as a poor man's Spiked Shell.

Bob-ombs also act like proximity mines; any kart that gets too close will get
a taste of gunpowder!

Spiked Shell [CAT 3]
============
The mother of all shells! This baby will zero in on the player that is
currently in first upon firing it. If a Spiked Shell is fired at you, don't
think you can just slink behind and let another player take the hit; if you are
in first when it is fired, it will hit you. Regardless. Why would you do that,
though? Upon being hit by a Spiked Shell, you will be blown up like a Bob-omb
would, losing 4 seconds. Be careful using a Spiked Shell if you're somewhat
close to the front; if you fire a Spiked Shell while in first, it'll backfire
and blow _you_ up.

There was an error in this description in previous versions: the Spiked Shell
CANNOT be held behind your kart or fired backwards. The Spiked Shell will
also home in on the kart that's currently at the front of the pack, whether
it's 1st place or 4th place.

Golden Mushroom [CAT 3]
===============
This is the supreme Mushroom. It's basically a mushroom that you can use an
infinite amount of times for about 7-10 seconds. It's pretty useful if you
have the room to use it.

Lightning Bolt [CAT 3]
==============
Lightning has a very interesting effect in Mario Kart DS; instead of affecting
all other players for an equal amount of time, it's relative to their position
in the race. 7th place recovers fairly quickly, and 1st place recovers last. If
you are in 1st place and are hit by it, you will spin out, lose 1.5 seconds,
and be tiny for about 10 seconds. You may not use Boos, Stars, Lightning, or
Bullet Bills while tiny.

Bullet Bill [CAT 4]
===========
Remember the Chain Chomp special item from Double Dash!!? This thing trumps
even THAT! Upon using a Bullet Bill, you will gain a MASSIVE amount of speed,
turn into a Bullet Bill, and follow the track automatically. The duration of
the Bullet Bill depends on how high your Items stat is. If it's high, it will
last about 8 seconds, and 4-5 seconds with a low Items stat.

I did some extra testing, and it IS possible to steer the Bullet Bill, but
only slightly. This feature may allow you to "home in" on other racers as
you're flying right past them.

Star [CAT 4]
====
Stars are awesome. They grant you complete invincibility and offensive control.
Any poor soul to get in your path will be knocked away from you as if they
were hit by a fake item box. A Star lasts for about 8 seconds.

In summary, remember what the categories stand for, and that they include
every item from the previous category as well:
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Posted on 01-10-06 11:21 PM Link
That's... Inaccurate. You can get bob-ombs in 1st place, and the list just falls apart outside of 8-way matches.
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Posted on 01-11-06 12:03 AM Link
It's inaccurate for sure. I've gotten Stars in 4th and 5th place.

Don't forget that the item obtained depends on what place you were in when you hit the item box. So if you hit an item box and then move into 1st, you have a chance at getting a Mushroom instead of a Green Shell.
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Posted on 01-11-06 12:11 AM Link
Uh. Colin that was taken from the game mechanics faq on gamefaqs. I think the author at least knows THAT much
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