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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - Hardware / Software - Apple announces MacBook Pro |
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Salmon Red Cheep-cheep                  Since: 11-18-05 From: Norway Last post: 6328 days Last view: 6317 days |
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| Apple will start selling the MacBook Pro (stupid name, looks like a wonderful computer). I must have this thing, simply must have it. I mean, just look at the specs. The Intel-processor should mean that compatibility issues gradually should disappear.
In related news, Apple also announced an iPod with an FM-radio. All in all, an impressive line-up of new hardware from their latest expo. |
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Zem Permabanned. Flaming, trolling, reregistering.   Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6635 days Last view: 6635 days |
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| I think the FM radio thing is available as an accessory to nanos and the most recent ipods, and it also functions as a remote. | |||
Tarale    2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| mmm intel macs.
Well, this is what the rumor mills were predicting for the keynote.  So I'm glad to see it happen.
About time Apple updated their laptop line too. Seriously, it was really really needing it. And yes, I shall get myself a MacBook Pro. Probably not till my debt issue is under control; but I will get one. |
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neotransotaku Sledge Brother Liberated from school...until MLK day  Since: 11-17-05 From: In Hearst Field Annex... Last post: 6315 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| I'll get 2nd gen of this thing if I don't get another laptop from now until then. This was sort of expected. My pro-Apple professor was talking about it last month but said he wouldn't get 1st gen since well...there is bound to be bugs... Let's see what sorts of things people try to use this for... (edited by neotransotaku on 01-10-06 06:59 PM) |
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Zem Permabanned. Flaming, trolling, reregistering. Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6635 days Last view: 6635 days |
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| You could, uh. Run world of warcraft better.
Maybe more companies will start making mac versions of their games. IT'S ALL YOU CAN HOPE FOR. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by neotransotaku Considering though that every single version of OS X has had an Intel version though I do expect that bugs will be minimal. |
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||bass Administrator  Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6314 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| In an interesting note, the warez scene has now released a patch for mac OSX that lets it run un UNMODIFIED pc hardware.
I installed it in vmware.... it works. |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6313 days |
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| But how well? This issue was brought up before. Wouldn't it only work with hardware designed to be Mac-compatible? | |||
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| Yes, I'd be curious as to how stable OS X is on hardware it's not familiar with. Unlike Windows, the developers of OS X haven't tried to build the OS to support every dodgy two-bit taiwanese piece of hardware.... | |||
Trapster King Dedede Since: 11-19-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6420 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| Holy sh*t! Those specs are amazing for a laptop. My motherboard doesnīt even support PCIe.
"Video: Built-in iSight Camera, a DVI, VGA (DVI to VGA adapter included)" And that sounds quite nifty. Any ideas of what itīll cost? |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Ran-chan US $1999 for the lower end model, US $2499 for the higher end one. The specs are quite good. I'm looking forward to getting one. It will be some months down the track of course; but still.... besides by then hopefully there will be more applications native to the Intel platform rather than having Rosetta do the work. |
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Trapster King Dedede Since: 11-19-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6420 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| I knew it was going to be expensive. Thatīs why I donīt usually like laptops. Theyīre easy to take with but they cost half a fortune.
$1999 = 15,455 SEK. $2499 = 19,320 SEK. No thanks. |
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Mercury 0 Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6482 days Last view: 6482 days |
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| On a sidenote, the iMac also got an Intel processor now (the same as the MacBook Pro, but better).
I hope they will announce the consumer laptop soon (instead of the iBook, just MacBook?). Btw, yeah, there are already beta OSX versions running on a PC, so I guess it won't take that long before 10.4.4 gets hacked and run on a PC, although they added new security I think. Also, rumors are that it will be possible to install Windows on an IntelMac (of course not supported by Apple, but they won't/can't stop it). I won't do it, but for the hardcore gamers it might be a good thing perhaps. |
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neotransotaku Sledge Brother Liberated from school...until MLK day Since: 11-17-05 From: In Hearst Field Annex... Last post: 6315 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Ran-chan That sounds about right for apple products. Apple products are more expensive for their opposite counterpart. However, if you talk to anyone who uses Apple, they say it is worth every penny. There are laptops at a local store that run for 1/4 of that price right now trapster... So, they cost as much as PCs now... |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Mercury Apple don't mind you running Windows on an Intel Mac at all. In fact, they have a "sure, run Windows" attitude towards it
As for the iBook / MacBook, I'm not sure if the name will change there or not. I suspect it will remain iBook if I think about it -- the iMac stayed an iMac.... I think the reason the name "Powerbook" was dropped is cause it's no longer PowerPC Architecture. Oh and as for the cost of Apple notebooks -- I agree, I think it's worth every penny. For that money you get a stunning laptop, and you can see all the attention to detail that went into making it, right down to touches like the backlit keyboard, the new power cable, the hard drive that parks itself if it detects you've droppped the laptop (to prevent damage) etc. Touches that at the end of the day make your user experience more enjoyable. Not to mention that they really are beautiful pieces of hardware. |
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||bass Administrator Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6314 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by HyperHackerIt only comes with drivers for hardware that comes with a factory stock mac but, there's nothing to stop 3rd party developers from writing drivers. In the next few months, I'd expect a slew of drivers coming from all the different hardware manufacturers. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by ||bassOriginally posted by HyperHackerIt only comes with drivers for hardware that comes with a factory stock mac but, there's nothing to stop 3rd party developers from writing drivers. In the next few months, I'd expect a slew of drivers coming from all the different hardware manufacturers. If they did that, I'd expect cease and desist notices to come out of Apple to those manufacturers, or something like that. Apple don't want OS X running on any hardware other than their own. That's why they've put the initial protection in in the first place. I'm pretty sure they would act to protect their OS. They're fine with Windows running on their hardware; but not OS X running on anybody else's. Part of that is that they want people to buy their hardware... but there's also the issue of stability and compatability.... (and the reputation that comes with that) |
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Ailure Mr. Shine I just want peace...  Since: 11-17-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| There's not much apple can do actually, 3rd party products... unlicensed have been done for years. Besides I don't think apple can do much for open source drivers.
I yet have to try running it in vmware myself, but I plan to do that later today. Sort of understandable why Macintosh don't want to make it run on your avergae IBM PC clone computer. One reason why Mac OS X is stable is becuse it's built to run on legacy hardware. :/ Edit: I hope someone hacks Mac OS X and makes a liveCD version of it. xD (There's alot of LiveCD distros for Linux, but it's possible with Windows too! It's not just... very legal, unless you do it yourself obviously.) (edited by Ailura on 01-11-06 08:15 PM) (edited by Ailura on 01-11-06 08:16 PM) |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Ailura Well, I doubt there'd be much they could do about open-source stuff; but I think that say if.... nvidia for example started putting out official drivers for OS X for hardware that isn't in a Macintosh, that Apple would have some kind of case with sending a cease-and-desist to nvidia. And it would definitely be a bad move for ATI, as it would damage the business relationship that they have with Apple. |
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||bass Administrator Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6314 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by TaraleBZZZZT! Wrong. There is absoloutly no legal way Apple could stop NVidia or anyone else from making x86 OSX drivers. Companies have made unlicensed software/drivers for years there is no legal difference in this case. There is NOTHING Apple can do about 3rd party drivers. Zip. Zero.Originally posted by Ailura On that note, there are already drivers coming out including drivers for the VMWare hardware. Me running OSX in VMWare: http://amber.stormbirds.org/mmxbass/files/osx86.png |
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