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Deleted User Banned                Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6469 days |
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| Shall we?
Anyway, the sticky notes that the board does not condone pirated anime (I assume also referring to fansubs as well). Well, does the board also condemn it? Perhaps my memory is failing but I can recall cases where in the past even staff stated they had fansubs and the like. I AM NOT ASKING THAT PEOPLE POST LINKS AS TO WHERE THESE CAN BE DOWNLOADED, I just thought it'd be interesting to open a dialogue of discussion on this for people to talk about. How do you feel about pirated anime, fansubs, and more? |
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Thoughtless [Danielle] Thoughtless is my secret lover [Danielle] *flutters eyelashes* [Thoughtless] SECRET IS OUT I miss my two pussies :( (Part II)        Since: 11-17-05 From: PR Last post: 6469 days Last view: 6468 days |
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| I'm okay with it.
I just look at it as another means to obtain anime in a decent form. The quality of dubs has always been questional and lately it has slipped (One could argue that he has always been on slide but...). Why settle with the drivel of a 4Kids dub, when you could get an illegal version of the anime but in a purer form (For lack of better words) I look at it this way, the same way I look at pirated CD's and movies. It's there and won't be going away for a long time if ever, might as well use it for my enjoyment. Instead of trying to fight off that battle of "Only store bought items, no illegal version of it" type of mentality. |
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero  Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6469 days Last view: 6468 days |
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| In general, the quality of professional releases is higher than it's ever been; you've merely got a few people who do very bad work, such as 4kids. But on the other hand, most of what 4kids has picked up has sucked anyway, so... Not a big deal. Just about everyone else puts out uncut DVDs of the shows they put on TV, and 99% of all translated anime in uncut on DVD anyway. There's little real reason one would have to resort to piracy, unless they simply can't afford to buy the DVDs in the first place, in which case I say don't spend your time watching anime anyway and get a damned job. | |||
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| Fansubs are fine, but most sites with fansubs also have pirated stuff as well. Honstly, I'd rather not wait for the fansub release, I get it before it gets to the fansubbers. (edited by Rydain on 11-26-05 10:29 AM) |
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6468 days Last view: 6468 days |
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| I view piracy of anime (and movies, music, software, and anything else) the same way as I view downloading a demo of a game. If I like it, I'll buy it. If I don't, I won't.
Illegal downloads have wound up getting me to spend a good chunk of money on things I never would've considered, and it's also saved me money on things I was hell-bent on spending money on until I downloaded them and found out they completely sucked. |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6510 days Last view: 6510 days |
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| That's what I was going for with my thread. I'd rather not pay for something that could suck/I don't like. | |||
Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6469 days Last view: 6469 days |
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Kailieann: I understand your argument and I have no problem with that belief... but what if we're dealing with anime that has not been licensed by any company or has no chance of being licensed? Technically... that's a grey area.  |
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6468 days Last view: 6468 days |
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| For me that makes no difference. As I said in the Cardcaptors thread, I'd rather watch anime in the original Japanese and not understand half of it than have translators I don't trust screwing around with it.
So the solution? Imports. |
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Tripcode Mel (USER WAS TOTALLY AWESOME FOR THIS POST) Since: 11-18-05 From: さげMOTHERFUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT Last post: 6473 days Last view: 6473 days |
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| so i herd u like not paying for things | |||
Jilkon Cappy  Since: 11-27-05 From: Teh Sweden Last post: 6550 days Last view: 6499 days |
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Originally posted by Kailieann QFT . Also, the American companies' translations tend to be more strict with the actual meanings of the words, losing feeling and little language quirks that can't be translated by simply translating the words in the process. |
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DarkSlaya   930 Gamma Ray  Since: 11-17-05 From: Montreal, Canada Last post: 6469 days Last view: 6468 days |
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| Current signature describes my feeling very well. | |||
Crashman Grizzo  Since: 12-26-05 From: Maine Last post: 6506 days Last view: 6506 days |
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| I always thought that fansubs were prefectly legal in the US. Sounds wierd, but true. | |||
Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6468 days Last view: 6468 days |
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| Well, there are things I like about DVD media, and things I like about the ability to get fansubs...
One thing I used to like about DVD media is that I had the option of watching in Japanese or English; although this has changed a lot recently with a lot of things being available in dual audio and subtitled verisons. I always watch in Japanese with English Subtitles anyways. I also used to like the fact that I physically owned something and I really would prefer to BUY anime than pirate or download fansubs. However, fansubs have some real advantages over DVD media for me. One, I can download some and see if I like it before I go and buy it -- there isn't anywhere around where we can just rent anime around here, so if you want it you have to either torrent it or buy it -- and if you don't like it and you bought it, then you're stuck with it. At least I can then make an informed choice before marching off to buy a boxed set or whatever. Also there's the fact that DVD media is actually physical media which is becoming a disadvantage for me. I have all these boxes and DVD's every-bloody-where. They are a mess!! But if I torrent or rip my DVD's, I have them all in one handy-dandy Hard Drive. I haven't had much luck with ripping DVD content myself; but if I could I'd do what I do with my music -- buy a CD; rip it, and then tuck the CD away in my box of CD's which is more or less shoved into a corner out of the way. Generally I want what's convenient for me. Sometimes I will go and buy a DVD boxed set cause that's what I want, sometimes I'd prefer to have it on my computer taking up hard drive space instead of shelf, floor, desk and etc space. Because I'm so good at making a mess and losing things unless it's on my hard drive, I think I really prefer fansubbed media. I will admit it is easier to loan out my DVD's to friends though  |
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Deleted User Banned Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6469 days |
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| Where I live, there's no where to buy anime except off the internet. | |||
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6510 days Last view: 6510 days |
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Originally posted by Thayer The deep South? By the way, any anime un-aired in the U.S. is legal to download. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6468 days Last view: 6468 days |
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Originally posted by WurlOriginally posted by Thayer IANAL, but that doesn't sound right to me. I believe there is a grey area surrounding unlicenced anime (as opposed to "un-aired"), and this is the area semi-legally covered by fansubs. The idea is that when somebody picks up a licence for an anime, the fansubbers have to stop subbing and distributing that particular anime. At least, that's my understanding of it. |
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Apophis Ropa  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6469 days Last view: 6468 days |
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| Does anyone know a good site that can tell me if a series is licensed or not? I'm asking because my school's anime club can only watch fansubs of unlicensed series. | |||
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6510 days Last view: 6510 days |
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| Y'know my school doesn't even have anime club.
And yeah Tarale is right, I mis-typed that. Thanks for fixing it. (edited by Wurl on 12-28-05 11:55 AM) |
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Apophis Ropa Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6469 days Last view: 6468 days |
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Originally posted by Wurl School? Your profile says you're 35. Working on a masters? |
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6468 days Last view: 6468 days |
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| Fansubs are illegal. No going around it. But for the Fansubs not Copyrighted here in North America, Fansubs are an AMAZING way of making a name for the anime you have created. Why do you think Animesuki has been up for so long? Hell, if they could, anime producers would probably endorse Animesuki. It's an awesome service.
I myself am a pirate. I download movies, games, roms, anything you can name that interests me. Hell, as we speak I'm downloading Harry Potter 4 and Megaman X8 for the PC. It's an issue the copyright management companies like the RIAA and the MPAA need to understand. Of 30 million who watch movies, at least 70% of them buy their movies. The rest pirate. Thats a gross profit of 450 million dollars canadian, if each DVD is 15 bucks. They're just upset because they're not making maximum profit. Meanwhile, there are people starving on the streets all across the world. This is why I support Socialism. Capitalism is a crock of shit. |
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