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Smallhacker

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Posted on 01-14-07 05:11 PM Link
To compare the differences between SMW and SMA2, I played it with the tile viewer window open.

The bottom half of the sprite tile data contains "new" sprites that doesn't fit in the old sprite files, like the sprite Yoshi coin, the "collect all coins" sprite, the new 1/2/3/5 UP sprites, and so on.

However, there was some sprites in there that I had never seen before. (I've beaten the game to 100% on my GBA without ever seeing them, and I beat it to 100% in an emulator, just to be sure.)

Here they are:

A sitting Mega Mole, a thin Porcu-puffer, a sitting Rex, a dolphin making a somersault(?), a Volcano Lotus(?), a weird shell(?), Blaarg eyes, Spiny egg, Spike Ball with all spikes in, a Wiggler with closed eyes and an angry Wiggler.

Note about the last ones:
Even though it may look like it, they're not used, as far as I can tell.

So... Any thoughts about this?
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Posted on 01-14-07 05:13 PM Link
The Mega Mole and the Dolphin look like they're in the middle of dying. Perhaps you should screw around with invincibility and see what happens when you kill them.
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Posted on 01-14-07 05:23 PM Link
When you're playing as Luigi and you're riding Yoshi, Yoshi has the ability to hold any enemy in his mouth and spit it out. The enemy rolls until it hits something, then explodes. Those all look like rolling enemies to me. (I don't quite get the weird Koopa shell and the two Wiggler heads, though)
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Posted on 01-14-07 05:32 PM Link
Crap, you're right.

However, you can't swallow Blaargs, and I can't think of any enemy with a shell like that, so what are those two sprites used for?
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Posted on 01-14-07 06:22 PM Link
Originally posted by Smallhacker
Crap, you're right.

However, you can't swallow Blaargs, and I can't think of any enemy with a shell like that, so what are those two sprites used for?



Yoshi does swallow Blaargs, at least in the original SMW he does if you try to eat the Blaarg and have a good timing. I don't know if he does on SMA2, though.
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Posted on 01-14-07 06:55 PM Link
So, that means Yoshi can eat the Dolphins? That could be rather unwise.
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Posted on 01-14-07 07:09 PM Link
Looks like a Lakitu shell to me. Probably from pipe Lakitus, most likely.
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Posted on 01-14-07 07:44 PM Link
All those sprites are Yoshi spitting them out when Luigi rides him in SMA 2. If you swallow a Blargg and spit it out, those eyes are the sprite you see. The shell sprite is spitting out a Lakitu.
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Posted on 01-15-07 02:44 PM Link
That weird shell is a Lakitu shell. Nintendo implemented these sprites for SMA2 so that Yoshi can spit other sprites out becuase he was able to do it in SMW2. These sprites all used turning hacks so they would roll when they were spat out. The sitting Mega Mole looks like it would be ding cartwheels, right? Its because its been spat out of Yoshi's mouth.
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Posted on 01-16-07 07:48 AM Link
Yeah, I found these a few years ago also.
When Yoshi eats something while Luigi is riding him, he can spit the stuff he ate out of his mouth.
I believe there's Mega Mole, Porcu-Puffer, Rex, a Dolphin, Volcano Lotus, Lakitu Shell, Blargg eyes, a Spiny shell and one of those floating Spike balls.
The Wiggler heads are there because there's two ways you can kill them with Yoshi.
-Eat it, spit it out. <- Method one, as seen in the upper head. Wiggler doesn't lose the flower on his head because he doesn't get mad.
-Jump on it, eat it, and spit it out. <- Method two, as seen in the lower head. He's mad and has no flower. The palette is obviously incorrect.
The bodies are not visible because they're always the same, spitted out or not.
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Posted on 01-17-07 02:24 PM Link
Originally posted by FPI
So, that means Yoshi can eat the Dolphins? That could be rather unwise.


He does with Blaarghs, i never tried with Dolphins though.
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Posted on 01-17-07 05:25 PM Link
Originally posted by Aioria
Originally posted by FPI
So, that means Yoshi can eat the Dolphins? That could be rather unwise.


He does with Blaarghs, i never tried with Dolphins though.


Yoshi can only eat Dolphins in the Japanese version of SMW.
No idea about SMA2 though.
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Posted on 01-17-07 08:19 PM Link
I remember read that it's possible to eat them in the English version of SMA2 as well. However I never played SMA so...

I guess they changed that originally when they released SMW because I guess someone at NOA probably thought it was a bit obscene. xD


(edited by Ailure on 01-17-07 02:20 PM)
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Posted on 02-05-07 04:25 AM Link
Originally posted by FPI
So, that means Yoshi can eat the Dolphins? That could be rather unwise.


Just in the Japanese version.
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Posted on 02-05-07 06:55 AM Link
Don't bump old thread unless you've got something important to add to the discussion.

That information has already been posted in this thread.
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