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Stephan Reiken

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Posted on 01-21-07 05:32 AM Link | Quote
Just so you all know, I do support the FF remakes. But, re-remakes... on the PSP no less, it is just ridiculas

But, did you know that FF6 is finally getting remade, to the GBA? With a new, redone Translation to fix the problems the last one had? Can't wait for that, personally. Less than a Month away for the US release if I remember correctly . Saw some boxes of the game at EBGames the other day, which is how I found out.


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Posted on 01-21-07 05:50 AM Link | Quote
Being as there's a thread on it, I would say that we know
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Posted on 01-21-07 06:54 AM Link | Quote
However, I'm sure it still won't be a 100% true translation, with the suggestive jokes and stuff like that the Japanese versions have always had. But most of the spelling mistakes and stuff like that were already fixed for Anthology for the PSX.

... except for poor Terra. Wasn't her true name supposed to be Tina?
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Posted on 01-21-07 03:48 PM Link | Quote
Terra is a better name than Tina, though.
Just like Sabin is a better name than Mash, and Strago is better than Stragus.

Locke is a better spelling than Lock and Relm is a better spelling than Realm, at least as far as names go.

Normally I hate it when a translation changes the names, but FF6's shift actually turned out for the better, in my opinion.
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Posted on 01-21-07 04:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kailieann
Terra is a better name than Tina, though.
Just like Sabin is a better name than Mash, and Strago is better than Stragus.

Locke is a better spelling than Lock and Relm is a better spelling than Realm, at least as far as names go.

Normally I hate it when a translation changes the names, but FF6's shift actually turned out for the better, in my opinion.
Agreed, wholeheartedly. I also think we would have had Cefka had the names not been altered a bit beforehand. Final Fantasy V, on the other hand, should've stuck with Butz for the releases on PSX and GBA. Bartz just isn't the same to me.
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Posted on 01-22-07 03:31 AM Link | Quote
They'll add some cutting edge jokes that the internet kiddies will love.

But I'm still surprised it's coming out on the 5th, thought for sure it would be later on... oh well. 2 weeks.
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Posted on 01-22-07 05:29 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dr_Death16
Final Fantasy V, on the other hand, should've stuck with Butz for the releases on PSX and GBA.

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you do see the problem with that name, don't you?


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Posted on 01-22-07 05:35 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Thexare
Originally posted by Dr_Death16
Final Fantasy V, on the other hand, should've stuck with Butz for the releases on PSX and GBA.

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you do see the problem with that name, don't you?
Of course, however, "Butts lol" just doesn't bother me enough to change it. If people did not waste their time thinking about how it sounds like somebody's *gasp* body part, it would be just another name. Bartz sounds like crap anyway, so if they had come up with something better than that, I would have to reconsider my opinion.
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Posted on 01-22-07 06:12 PM Link | Quote
I don't see what the big deal is. Did it ever occur to anyone that people who don't want a DS, but want a portable version of these games would like it? Instead, some of you make it sound like making the game available to more people or improving upon what many agree to be a good game could only harm the company. If you really want to get worked up about games that get repackaged over and over again, let's talk about Megaman, which doesn't even have any changes when rereleased.

Originally posted by Grey
The port of Final Fantasy Tactics that's coming to PSP soon in Japan (though unannounced in North America) will apparently have story elements in it that tie into Final Fantasy 12.
Since when does that work out? They're not even from the same world. That's a more specific case of Enix Square overdoing remakes to the point where they're desperately grasping for people's money. Years ago, when FF12 was still in development, they announced that yes, it would take place in Ivalice, but that that Ivalice was not connected to the Ivalice in Final Fantasy Tactics, instead drawing a connection to the Final Fantasy Tactics Advance world. Now, in an attempt to sell more copies of the port of Tactics that is coming to the PSP, they're retconning the Tactics story to include characters from FF12, in spite of it being, according to their previous statements, impossible for that to happen.

Not the Ivalice that you've come to know in Final Fantasy Tactics. The borders of Ivalice are ever-changing, what with all the wars its involved in. Or perhaps Squaresoft was referring to the era? However, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance does have a connection with FFT, so to say that FFXII draws a connection from FFTA is to say that FFXII has an indirect connection to FFT. Square could always come up with some way to link the two different Ivalices, even if they were on different worlds. Nevertheless, the keyword is "development," meaning that they hadn't worked everything out just yet. Besides, if you played the game, you would've definitely seen some connections.

Originally posted by Stephan Reiken
Just so you all know, I do support the FF remakes. But, re-remakes... on the PSP no less, it is just ridiculas

Ridiculous? Yes, I believe that the blinding hate for Sony products, the alteration of a retro game, or just Final Fantasy, of ACMLM users is the real reason why people in this thread don't like the idea of a modified release of a Final Fantasy to the PSP.
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Posted on 01-22-07 06:24 PM Link | Quote
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However, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance does have a connection with FFT,

Explain, please.

I'd love to hear this one...

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Originally posted by Zidane
Yes, I believe that the blinding hate for Sony products, the alteration of a retro game, or just Final Fantasy, of ACMLM users is the real reason why people in this thread don't like the idea of a modified release of a Final Fantasy to the PSP.
Cute. Cut the bullshit attempts at insults or get the hell out of my forum.


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Posted on 01-24-07 06:08 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Thexare
Originally posted by Zidane
However, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance does have a connection with FFT,

Explain, please.

I'd love to hear this one...

Sorry, I muddled things up a bit when trying to rationalize the world connections, as I haven't thought about it in a while. Yasumi Matsuno has already said that FFXII takes place in the same world as FFTA, just in a different time period. FFXII is the "Golden Age" that FFT refers to, with many airships in the skies. All three games take place in the same world, but obviously at different times in the world's history. I could also tie in connections to FFVII and FFX.

Originally posted by Thexare
Cute. Cut the bullshit attempts at insults or get the hell out of my forum.

I don't mean to insult anyone. I just think that people could think things through a bit before bashing a game. What is so ridiculous about making a game more available to people who want to play it on the go? If you're just going to talk about how bad the game is, you could've done that years ago when the games first came out; instead of saying how bad this release will be, tell us how bad the games have always been (if you believe them to be). Otherwise, you're just pinning it on the system.

Edit: Messed up a quote tag.


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Posted on 01-24-07 06:14 PM Link | Quote
I think the idea of re-re-re-re-making games is just to make up for a lack of brains on the company's part.

After all, the original Mario games were only remade a few times (Super Mario All Stars, Super Mario Advance (sigh) series, etc). After a while it gets old.

Besides, the PSP is practically a handheld for emulation, so people could just emulate them without buying a (probably) shitty remake.
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Posted on 01-24-07 06:42 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zidane
What is so ridiculous about making a game more available to people who want to play it on the go?
This is one of the things I said several times when asking him Cheveyo to take down his inflammatory remark. There is absolutley nothing wrong with this, though to be fair you could've phrased your last point more civilly. Which you did here.
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Besides, the PSP is practically a handheld for emulation, so people could just emulate them without buying a (probably) shitty remake.
Sounds like someone has forgotten that the public at large doesn't know what emulation is.
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More and more people know about emulation, though.

I've seen more people using an emulator on their PSP than I've seen people playing an actual PSP game. (Honestly, I've seen 2 or 3 people running some sort of emulator and the majority listen to music on the thing. I've never seen anyone play a native game for it but maybe the subway isn't the best place to be doing that, I dunno.)
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Originally posted by Grey
They say you can tell how much of an elitist a gamer is by asking them to name their favorite Final Fantasy game. The lower the number, the more elitist they are.

So Final Fantasy Tactics fits in where? I say its the best one, both in story and gameplay. The complexity in both makes it better than other ones I've played...

I used to like Final Fantasy, but so far nothing has helped me regain interest in it. Last FF game I was really into was IX, and from what everyone I've talked to in real life said, they said it was crap compared to VIII (which I hate).

Meh, everyone has different tastes. If they want fancy graphics, let them go ahead and get them. There is no changing people's minds.

And there are those that still claim Nintendo as a "child's game" so they go with the PSP. And yes, I've seen one person play a native game for it, but otherwise it would be just music. Hell, he doesn't even use it for that anymore...
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Posted on 01-25-07 02:32 AM Link | Quote
Apparently the DS is getting some kind of FFXII game.

Mother of god ...
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So they're making a port of a GBA game that is a port of a PS1 game that is a port of a WSC game that is a remake of a MSX game that is a port of the original NES game that is based heavily on D&D?

Something seems wrong here...
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Posted on 01-25-07 06:51 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Besides, the PSP is practically a handheld for emulation, so people could just emulate them without buying a (probably) shitty remake.
Sounds like someone has forgotten that the public at large doesn't know what emulation is.
Oh, I know.

But the PSP was also said to be "pretty much shit unless you want it for the homebrew/emulation" and almost no one I know has one unless they use it mostly for emulating older consoles.

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Posted on 01-25-07 12:44 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Originally posted by Alastor
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Besides, the PSP is practically a handheld for emulation, so people could just emulate them without buying a (probably) shitty remake.
Sounds like someone has forgotten that the public at large doesn't know what emulation is.
Oh, I know.

But the PSP was also said to be "pretty much shit unless you want it for the homebrew/emulation" and almost no one I know has one unless they use it mostly for emulating older consoles.





same way I'm gonna use it.

(and before anyone goes "lol your buying a psp", it's used.)
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Posted on 01-25-07 02:39 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Racer Xeo
Apparently the DS is getting some kind of FFXII game.

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Yeah, but it could be interesting. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE NEW GAMES THAT ARE ORIGINAL:!?!?!?!?!??!?!?@?!@?

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how it will turn out. Reservations, I do have, of course.
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