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Posted on 01-19-07 08:28 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by pikaguy900

4-6 are on what system? Or are those Japanese titles? I kinda live in the US, so...


You got a PS2, and FF1, 2 and 4-6 were ported to the PSX, so you do have access to the majority of the series (not to mention that these ports keep their original number, so there's no confusion to be had - if it's for a Sony console, the number on the box is correct).
That said, the one you should pick up is Final Fantasy Origins, the collection of the first 2 FF games. Both are among the best in the series, and unlike the GBA remakes and most likely the upcoming PSP remakes, the gameplay was NOT ruined in the process of updating the game. Beautiful stuff, and mighty recommended.

As for your first question, no, it's not as good a series as you'd think. It may have many fans willing to tell you how awesome it is, but many of these have never play any RPGs not titled Final Fantasy. The series also took a serious nosedive when it went 3D with FF7, culminating in the crapfest that was FF8, but never managing to get back to the quality of the early games, so try focusing on the earlier games first.

But again, there are better series out there you'd rather want to play, like Earthbound, Phantasy Star and the brilliant Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior series. FF is nothing compared to these.


(edited by Adamant on 01-19-07 02:29 AM)
(edited by Adamant on 01-19-07 02:29 AM)
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Posted on 01-19-07 08:38 AM Link | Quote
SKIES OF ARCADIA, PEOPLE. Oh, and Grandia on DC. That was fun-core. LunarStory. I'd check out Xenogears. Oh, Shin Megami Tensei.

Hell, even SW: KOTOR is a pretty bitching RPG.
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Posted on 01-19-07 08:52 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ziff
MYSTIC QUEST - Why aren't you playing this game right now? Seriously. Why? Oh, wait. If you see this cartridge, destroy it. It may not be FF proper, but fucking kill it. Microwave.


Well, it had ... decent music, I think? I can't remember. Even if you want Final Fantasy for Beginners, screw this game, and get Super Mario RPG Legend of the Seven Stars instead.

Oh, and Xenogears. That's one PSX RPG I've been meaning to play, for far too long. Luckily you can still buy it off "Squaresofts" online store for $20, from what I remember.

And yes, both KOTOR's rocked my world. Jade Empire, not that much actually ...


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Posted on 01-19-07 08:58 AM Link | Quote
Jade Empire WAS disappointing!

However, Vagrant Story and Valkyrie Profile were absolutely <3tacular. In fact, Vagrant Story rules all sorts of things.
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Posted on 01-19-07 10:10 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Racer Xeo

Well, it had ... decent music, I think? I can't remember.

Yes. But we got soundtracks for stuff like that, so luckily there's still no reason to actually play the game.
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Posted on 01-19-07 04:30 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Adamant
Yes. But we got soundtracks for stuff like that, so luckily there's still no reason to actually play the game.
Are you crazy?

The following is a perfectly good reason to play the game.


Dark King, we meet at last...

Indeed, and now you will serve me...

I don't think so!
We won't allow you to ruin our
World.

Alas, silly humans, I must share
a terrible secret!
That prophecy?
Ages ago I started that rumor!
Welcome to the power of
Darkness!


Also, everything associated with that.
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Posted on 01-19-07 05:37 PM Link | Quote
It only takes you 15 hours at MOST to play through Mystic Quest.

It's the simplest RPG ever but it's not absolutely horrid. Just... not great.
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Posted on 01-19-07 07:32 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Adamant
Originally posted by pikaguy900

4-6 are on what system? Or are those Japanese titles? I kinda live in the US, so...


You got a PS2, and FF1, 2 and 4-6 were ported to the PSX, so you do have access to the majority of the series (not to mention that these ports keep their original number, so there's no confusion to be had - if it's for a Sony console, the number on the box is correct).
That said, the one you should pick up is Final Fantasy Origins, the collection of the first 2 FF games. Both are among the best in the series, and unlike the GBA remakes and most likely the upcoming PSP remakes, the gameplay was NOT ruined in the process of updating the game. Beautiful stuff, and mighty recommended.

As for your first question, no, it's not as good a series as you'd think. It may have many fans willing to tell you how awesome it is, but many of these have never play any RPGs not titled Final Fantasy. The series also took a serious nosedive when it went 3D with FF7, culminating in the crapfest that was FF8, but never managing to get back to the quality of the early games, so try focusing on the earlier games first.

But again, there are better series out there you'd rather want to play, like Earthbound, Phantasy Star and the brilliant Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior series. FF is nothing compared to these.

Uhmm.... Okay. I'm planning on trying out Earthbound one of these days, by the way. I wanted to ever since Super Smash Bros. Melee. So... I'll try and look for that one you mentioned I should check out.
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Posted on 01-19-07 09:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ziff
Jade Empire WAS disappointing!

However, Vagrant Story and Valkyrie Profile were absolutely <3tacular. In fact, Vagrant Story rules all sorts of things.

Vagrant Story > Final Fantasy XII. In every way, music and everything.

Then again, like I said I've just gotten 25 hours or so into FFXII, so I can't really say.

But yeah, Vagrant Story is definitely another one of Square's "awesome but unheard of" RPG's.
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Posted on 01-20-07 12:31 AM Link | Quote
XII just sucked balls. If you can beat it at only level 30 then there is a problem that needs to be adressed. Mystic Quest must be destroyed at all costs. X-2 was a failure (in my opinion). And the rest of the series was good. XI doesn't count whatsoever.
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Posted on 01-20-07 04:49 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by pikaguy900
Originally posted by Adamant
Originally posted by pikaguy900

stuff

Earthbound, FF is nothing compared to these.

Earthbound


Play it. Just play it. Don't ask questions, take everything you see at face value, sit down, put aside about 20-40 hours, and play it.

And whatever you do, don't attack the Trillionage Sprout when you're mushroomated.
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Posted on 01-20-07 06:18 AM Link | Quote
Say what you want about mystic quest, but I had never played an RPG prior to playing FF Mystic Quest, and I found it quite charming. Yeah, FFIV (FFII at the time ) kicked my ass when I did get around to playing it but Mystic Quest had some things that no Final Fantasy has. It has puzzles you have to solve; and while most of them are easy, I can't think of an FF where you can actually move objects around on the screen or interact with them using items. You have a claw to climb walls with and the best claw allowed you to cross gaps. Axes allowed you to cut down trees and mushrooms to clear your path. And the sword triggered hidden switches.

And while to even a casual RPG player the game mechanics will seem ridiculously simplistic, it gave me a pretty good taste of how RPGs worked without making it overly difficult. It has a level system, magic, HP, and the basic status ailments like poison and stone are there.

And there are even aspects of it that I find superior to "better" RPGs, one being that you can actually see your enemies. Random encounters annoy me to no end in RPGs... you can only do that so long before you get fed up and just want to explore.
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Posted on 01-20-07 05:23 PM Link | Quote
My favorite Final Fantasies were 2, 6, 7, and 8, with 9 right up there.

And out of all of those, 8 was probably the most bitchin' one. I think the story was the best the series had to offer, and the music was amazing. I still get chills when I here the "Vinos, Lusec" music.

As far as RPG's go, Final Fantasy pale in comparison to my favorite, Lunar: Silver Star Story and Eternal Blue. Those games were pure gold... especially Silver Star Story.
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Posted on 01-20-07 06:57 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Black Lord +
My favorite Final Fantasies were 2, 6, 7, and 8, with 9 right up there.

And out of all of those, 8 was probably the most bitchin' one. I think the story was the best the series had to offer, and the music was amazing. I still get chills when I here the "Vinos, Lusec" music.

As far as RPG's go, Final Fantasy pale in comparison to my favorite, Lunar: Silver Star Story and Eternal Blue. Those games were pure gold... especially Silver Star Story.


Ah yes, Working Designs rocked! I still have a soft spot for Arc the Lad 2 (too bad the series went to crap after that).

Its a shame newer Working Designs games sucked, like Growlancer.
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