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pikaguy900 Sparky                   Since: 08-10-06 Last post: 6317 days Last view: 6304 days |
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I was wondering... Is the Final Fantasy series any good? Judging by the number of games it has, I'm assuming that a ton of people like it. I want to try it out, but I'd like some honest opinions first, especially if any of the games are bad. Oh yeah, and just so you know, I only own Nintendo systems (Save for that PS2 I got just so I could play ONE SINGLE GAME. Not a very good idea, was it, considering I don't play it anymore?  ), so... Please don't suggest I get a game that's only on a different system, like the PS2. Thank you.  |
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| Final Fantasy took a nosedive after it went Sony anyways.
If you can find it, get Final Fantasy II (US title -- Final Fantasy IV in Japan) for SNES -- the GBA remake was a tad on the buggy side. The GBA remake of FF5 is also a good bet, as will FF6 when the US release comes out. I wouldn't bother with 1 and 2 unless you played them on the NES. And, while I enjoyed what I've played of 3, I never finished the original and have no DS with which to play the remake, so I can't really say. But, yeah. 4-6 are pretty much the peak of the series, and they are quite good. |
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Dr_Death16   970 Since: 05-07-06 From: Iowa Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| Depends, really. I personally have enjoyed much of the Final Fantasy series at some point in my life. However, the first three Final Fantasies (two of which were only available via translated ROM until recently) have become outdated anymore, and are not great games at this point. That being said, I believe Final Fantasies IV, V and VI are absolutely great games, for the SNES. Final Fantasy V is only available via ROM if you don't have a GBA or PS, so, yeah. But you should definitely play those. The later ones are complete crap, in my opinion, but Final Fantasy X for PS2 was not as bad as the VII, VIII and IX, and I enjoyed it quite a bit, so that one I would also recommend. As for the question of if the series is overhyped, I would give a definitive yes, thanks to a load of remakes and constant FF VII fanboys. However, those games I suggested are truly good games to play and you should play them, ASAP. | |||
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pikaguy900 Sparky Since: 08-10-06 Last post: 6317 days Last view: 6304 days |
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Originally posted by Kailieann 4-6 are on what system? Or are those Japanese titles? I kinda live in the US, so... The numbers confuse me, because I, too, have heard that Final Fantasy 1 was actually a different Final Fantasy game in Japan (I forget which. I think it was 2 in Japan?). It just messes up the whole numbering system, don't you think? But yeah, I heard that the most recent Final Fantasy games are terrible. O_o I wonder why? Oh well. No sense thinking about that. I'll definitely check out your recommendations. But... Wouldn't it be best for me to start with the first ones? Or do the storylines have nothing in common with each other whatsoever, thus allowing you to play any of the games in any order without having to worry about not knowing what's going on? Edit: Nevermind. My question has been answered.  (edited by pikaguy900 on 01-18-07 11:46 PM) |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| (I'm slightly tired right now, so this won't be an incredibly in-depth post, for now. Sorry)
Final Fantasy is a great series and all, though lately I've been wishing the franchise would just die. For me: Final Fantasy I, II, and III - Decent games, but they didn't necessarily "pull me in", like some of the others. Final Fantasy IV - Still my favorite typical RPG, and one of my favorite FF's. What I mean by typical, is its a "Hey, there's bad guys trying to take over the world. I'm this awesome Knight that's gotta rise and kill them, with a small part of love life here and there". The plot isn't anything fancy at all, but its a solid game, nothing really bad with it, and it was amazing for its time. Final Fantasy V - Decent. Fun gameplay with the job system. Terrible plot. Final Fantasy VI - My personal favorite. Introduced some fresh ideas, though a lot of us will agree the game somewhat falls apart towards the middle half (WoR). Also, the gameplay was somewhat weak, it was too easy to make your characters gods. Final Fantasy VII - Great game, the only FF I've beaten all the way through more than once besides IV and VI. But, it has a bin full of unexplained plot holes, weak characters, and some stuff that drags it down. Then there's the fanboys, the milking, the nightmare that was Advent Children, etc. Final Fantasy VIII - You'll probably see this one get bashed a lot. But it was honestly something else. Very different and unique, some of the coolest settings I've seen in an FF, and had some incredible music. Though, like other FF's, the gameplay was far too easy. Final Fantasy IX - Unique, solid grade A RPG that I really enjoyed. But I haven't been driven to beat it again or anything. Sidequests were fun in this one, and so was the card game. Final Fantasy X - Beat it, realized how much I hated it. I seriously do, no offense. This caused me to not play X-2. Final Fantasy XII - Solid game if you ask me, and I'm enjoying it. But, I'm not 14-ish like I used to be. I'm 19, in college, and working about 30 hours a week. I don't have an insanely huge amount of time like I once did, back when all I did was play games and stuff. I've had this game since it came out (November?) and I'm only about 25 hours in. All in all, the Final Fantasy series is somewhat solid for the most part. But, most of them are very easy, and they're not perfect at all. RPG games I've enjoyed more: Chrono Trigger / Cross, Suikoden series, Breath of Fire III/IV, Star Ocean series, Secret of Mana / SD3, and surely there's a bunch of others out there I'm forgetting. Where should you start? I have no idea. I guess I'd say FFIV. It has a big taste of "old school" flavor to it, and its just a pretty solid "classic" FF game. After that, I don't know. But I still have to say nowadays, seeing more Final Fantasy games, remakes, ports, spin-offs, sequels (3 games in production for FFXIII), and whatnot, makes me sick. If the franchise died right now, I probably wouldn't lose any breath over it. |
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| The storylines have nothing in common, no.
And, Final Fantasy 2 US = Final Fantasy 4 Japan Final Fantasy 3 US = Final Fantasy 6 Japan All the other titles remained the same. And 4-6 are all for SNES, with GBA remakes. |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| And although the IV GBA remake "looks" nicer, be careful. It can be pretty buggy at times, and battles usually suffer from constant jolts of lag here and there. The GBA port of V seemed to get all of this fixed. Still haven't tried the VI port, so I can't say on that. | |||
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jeff Double metal axe  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6305 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| final fantasy 1 - i only liked it the first time playing through with my brothers and friends around. after that, it becomes a totally shitty game.
final fantasy 2 - i only liked it never. there's nothing fun about it to pull you in. final fantasy 3 - i liked it for about 10 minutes until realizing it was just the same game. again. final fantasy 4 - it's only good because of the characters, but it has the same problem as the rest of the games: core gameplay is the same shit, over and over again final fantasy 5 - wow it's like ff3 but like you want to actually finish it because the job classes are nicely done. final fantasy 6 - it's like ff4 but with better characters. only problem is that there's too much focus on the lame ones, like terra and celes. final fantasy 7 - only the characters are good. if cid and barrett weren't in this game, it'd not be worth it. final fantasy 8 - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz final fantasy 9 - again, only the characters were good. final fantasy 10 - this one is kind of a toss up. only auron was a great character in this game, and it unfortunately focuses too much on tidus and yuna being lesbians with each other. i didn't like it at all the first time through. then, trying playing through it a second time. the game becomes like a well crafted comedy! so in essence, the only good thing about ANY of these games is that the characters were great, they however suffer the same problem as the grand theft auto games, and that is that their core gameplay is NOT how i like games to be. |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now.  Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6305 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| "Final Fantasy" is pretty much just a title that Square sticks onto whatever "RPG" they have in development that looks the most promising. This is done in order to sell more copies of said games to the legions of gamers who will buy anything with "Final Fantasy" printed on it.
That's not exactly true, but I think it puts across my feelings for the franchise pretty well. (edited by Kasdarack on 01-19-07 12:06 AM) |
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Hiryuu Sword Maiden Retired Admin  Since: 11-17-05 From: Nerima District - Tokyo, Japan Last post: 6305 days Last view: 6305 days |
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| Uhm, why did people FAIL to mention the great Final Fantasy Tactics? That game was the REASON I picked up SRPGs like I did. Fantastic game. | |||
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| Hmm, yeah. I should've mentioned FFT.
Though, maybe unlike most when people bring up "Final Fantasy", FFT usually isn't the first thing I think of. Its just its own thing, out there if you ask me. Doupt that made any sense, but oh well. Basically, FFT is definitely a solid game in my book. |
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Hiryuu Sword Maiden Retired Admin Since: 11-17-05 From: Nerima District - Tokyo, Japan Last post: 6305 days Last view: 6305 days |
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| Well, that I would agree with, actually. It's definitely more thinking that a button mash or hold down attack button game. If nothing else, it's move and THEN attack.
Still, with the versatility of the initial game's system, I was far and away impressed by it. And when I bought it for 15 bucks, it was definitely a great buy. |
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jeff Double metal axe Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6305 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| i didn't mention FFT because it's not a copy of the other games. it's its own game but given the final fantasy name for $$$. | |||
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Hiryuu Sword Maiden Retired Admin Since: 11-17-05 From: Nerima District - Tokyo, Japan Last post: 6305 days Last view: 6305 days |
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| Yeeeaa...
So having Cloud, Aeris, and all the major summons in that game doesn't make it an FF game. I see. |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| Though, I honestly have to say ...
FFTA was terrible.  |
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Hiryuu Sword Maiden Retired Admin Since: 11-17-05 From: Nerima District - Tokyo, Japan Last post: 6305 days Last view: 6305 days |
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Originally posted by Racer Xeo Also agreed. That's the first FF game I've ever put down and not finished. |
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jeff Double metal axe Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6305 days Last view: 6304 days |
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Originally posted by Hiryuu it gives it the link to final fantasy, but i don't consider it a final fantasy game simply because its gameplay is not like the traditional rpgs of the series. |
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Schweiz oder etwas [12:55] (Dr_Death16); I swear, the word drama needs to be stricken from the dictionary, for I've heard it so many times, it will permanently be imprinted on my brain  Since: 11-17-05 From: Kingston, Rhode Island Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| Final Fantasy Tactics, much like Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, is not a Final Fantasy Game.
It's a "Let's try something new and hope to Odin that it works but just in case let's put the Final Fantasy name on it to familiarize audiences". That said, Final Fantasy Tactics is far and away the best game in the entire run of games Square has made, and I will say that with confidence in my opinion. Other than Tactics, the only ones I really liked were IV, VII, and IX. I just plain couldn't get into VI, no matter how I tried (and believe me, I tried). IV was my favorite after Tactics, I loved its classic style, and unlike any of the other FF games, it was the only one I felt the need to play through several times before putting it down at last. VII is just cool. I don't care what you people say about fanboys or fangirls or cloud gay sephiroth slash fiction, there really really was something cool, back in 1997, about a guy wielding a sword that was bigger than him while summoning huge monsters with flashy visual effects and a confusing plot that left a large amount to the imagination. VII started that entire craze, created the modern "generic RPG" cliche, and above that really was a good, solid game with characters you grew interested in and wanted to learn more about. It is a good game. It is overrated now, and there is no reason to freak out over it, but Final Fantasy VII is definitely a good game. I liked IX because it reminded me of IV. After VII and VIII (ugh), two games where characters were easily customizable and everyone could become whatever they wanted to with the right Materia, it was nice to see a game where a fighter was a fighter, a mage was a mage, and thieves sucked for everything but running the hell away, just like the balance of power in the world dictated. The characters and story were a little meh, but the game was clearly much more lighthearted and whimsical than the previous several FF games, which were dark, depressing, and sterile. FFIX was a storybook tale, and it at least deserves some accolade for showing that Square still knew how to make classical RPGs that weren't set in a futuristic wasteland. I could write a Bachelor-level thesis about how much I hate FFVIII, though... That said, FF will never really hold a candle to serieses like Chrono, Breath of Fire, Suikoden, or even Kingdom Hearts, if you wanna call that an RPG. Breath of Fire III was excellent, with fun gameplay and characters that you really liked watching interact. Suikoden I, II, and III were excellent tales of political intrigue and the gradual unraveling of the world around the characters, as the gamer realizes that yes, in fact, this is really only one small country inside of a much larger world that is struggling around it. And of course, I believe Earthbound speaks for itself... |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now. Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6305 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| Well... it's not like the job system in Tactics wasn't based heavily on Final Fantasy 5 or anything...
I'd like to say that the idea was pitched and then the FF creatures and characters were written in to sell more copies... because I honestly believe that's how Square operates... but so many of the classes have very FF specific abilities... I'm gonna go with Tactics probably having been intended as a spinoff from the start. Now, all that aside... I think FFT is my favorite game to bear the name. FFTA was crap and a total waste of the 70 or so hours I put in to have a perfect game... |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| I - has aged terribly poorly. Dawn of Souls version not too bad. Worth a try after you get into series.
II - it is like going from single cell organism to small rat sized jelly fish. A step in the right direction III - another astronomic jump in quality. But, yeah. DD said it, enjoyable but only play the DS version IV - S'alright. I haven't a thing against it, it just didn't capture my imagination too too much. V - HOLY SHIT. The series teeth are out in full gear. VI - Hallelujah god above. A nearly peffect game. VII - I have fond memories of the game itself, but it just hasn't aged. VIII - call me heretic. I really liked 8, even more than 7 IX - I'd say it is a head above 7, but I just didn't get into it like I did with 8 X - <3 an amazing game, you'll love it. XI - Lame MMO steer clear XII - I'd save 12 for a bit. It is a really good game, but play the SNES and PS1 games first before getting into this one. It...really deviates from the two hours I've played. Tactics - <3 probably the best thing to have FF attached to it. FFTA - not as deep as its forebear, but absolutely fun. MYSTIC QUEST - Why aren't you playing this game right now? Seriously. Why? Oh, wait. If you see this cartridge, destroy it. It may not be FF proper, but fucking kill it. Microwave. Other stuff - reh X-2. Reh DoC. Reh whatever else I'm missing. Chocobo Racing? Hell yeah. Chocobo Dungeon? Hell nah. Crystal Chronicles is fun...If you have 4 people with GBAs. (edited by Ziff on 01-19-07 02:50 AM) |
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