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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - General Gaming - Wii have a new DVD player |
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FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos                     Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| Because they say it's not a software issue. Kind of like how Enron said that they weren't in financial troubles. | |||
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero  Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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Originally posted by TanksI also called him on this. However, his hypocrisy does not excuse that you are quite clearly trolling. Originally posted by AdamantI could respond to this with another PM (or just respond to his PM to me, which essentially says the same thing), but this is a public matter, and I really don't want normal users getting the wrong idea. I bear no sympathy to you. That is an old matter. Are you truly so childish that you would bear such a grudge for this long? If someone wrongs you, the mature thing to do is to forgive them, not to bear along your forehead a derision of them. It's stupid, and more to the point it's trolling. Originally posted by XkeeperThis goes to you, too. I will admit that I do not like this system, but calling it 'most definitely a steaming pile of shit' is, again, trolling. PS3 has some good games, and will likely have more later. Come on, Xk; You are the board owner. You should know to obey your own rules. I point to Don't #2 here, which states: "Don't... Insult/bash video game systems and games without a perfectly good reason. (i.e. "DUD U SUCK IF U HAVE GAMCUB UR A GAY PKEMON KIDDIE")" Saying that PS3 is overpriced and has no games your interested in is fine. What the three of you have done is most definitely not, and I will not tolerate it. I can understand saying it to Tanks, but Adamant, Xkeeper, you two are staff and I really shouldn't have to tell you not to do this. Now then. any more talk along this matter will result in nothing more than this thread being closed. End of story. |
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Xkeeper Took the board down in a blaze of glory, only to reveal how truly moronical ||bass is. Since: 11-17-05 From: Henderson, Nevada Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| I don't know, factual evidence pretty much supports my opinion that the PS3 sucks ass. | |||
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| Kay.
Edit somewhat later: I closed the thread with this post, but it was silently reopened some time before grey got here. (edited by Alastor on 01-17-07 08:21 PM) |
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Schweiz oder etwas [12:55] (Dr_Death16); I swear, the word drama needs to be stricken from the dictionary, for I've heard it so many times, it will permanently be imprinted on my brain  Since: 11-17-05 From: Kingston, Rhode Island Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| Alastor, you don't do the pointing the gun thing very well.
I'm gonna tempclose this, so that everyone can cool off. Kyouji, Adamant, and X, take it to IRC if you really want to discuss it. No last words, and yes, X, I know I'm talking upwards here, but there are better ways that this could be handled, and this is supposed to be a discussion about the Wii, not the PS3. (edited by Grey on 01-17-07 08:12 PM) |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| On the point though, the wii is only 250 bucks. It has buttloads of features that make it really enjoyable and really. Who needs a god damned DVD player in their Wii? Between now and then (the release of an entirely new piece of hardware for the same cost) you'd probably be smarter to go out and buy a 20 dollar DVD player that works just as well.
However, I really don't think that Nintendo thought this through. It wouldn't have cost them too much more to include DVD playback (again, not that it was necessary). I find it insulting to me, as a consumer, if this turns out to be true. Why couldn't Nintendo have include the damned thing? |
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BooUrns Buster Beetle  Since: 05-07-06 From: The CS Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days |
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| The only advantage I'd see to a Wii DVD player would be fewer cords running to the stereo. | |||
Tanks Spiny  Since: 06-19-06 From: Eagle Land Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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Well, no other way to solve this than a public apology. I did say it was a steaming pile of shit and I know I broke the 2nd rule. I've been kind of pissed today. I guess it was letting off steam from all those midterms I just took. I figured most of the board would back me up. (guess not ) Well all I can ask is for the forgiveness of the others who witnessed my terrible-ness of break board rule number 2...
I am sorry... |
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Tanks Spiny Since: 06-19-06 From: Eagle Land Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| Well, no other way to solve this than a public apology. I did say it was a steaming pile of shit and I know I broke the 2nd rule. I've been kind of pissed today. I guess it was letting off steam from all those midterms I just took. I figured most of the board would back me up. (guess not) Well all I can ask is for the forgiveness of the others who witnessed my terrible-ness of break board rule number 2...
I am sorry... How The Fuck Did I do this? o_0 (edited by Tanks on 01-17-07 09:29 PM) |
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| WITH GLITCHES D: | |||
Mister Lover Red Tektite  Since: 12-26-05 From: Wisconsin Last post: 6311 days Last view: 6299 days |
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Originally posted by Dirtbag Because it actually more of a drive issue, because the drive was only designed to handle encrypted DVDs with a different coding system for games. The Wii and Gamecube Optical Disc are encrypted with a key derived from the Burst Cutting Area, a 'bar code' unreadable by most DVD drives. |
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| If you don't have a DVD player at home, odds are you have one on your PC.
And if you don't, you can buy a cheap one for $30-40 or so and it'll work for a while. DVD playback isn't really going to affect Nintendo's sales at all. |
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Mister Lover Red Tektite Since: 12-26-05 From: Wisconsin Last post: 6311 days Last view: 6299 days |
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| I do have one on my PC.
But Colin the reason why the PS2 and XBOX were more successfull was actually mostly because of the DVD support. Not really because of the Mature titles that were released on the two systems. Originally posted by Colin |
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| But Colin the reason why the PS2 and XBOX were more successfull was actually mostly because of the DVD support.
...please tell me you're not being serious. |
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C:/xkas bio.asm Compiled ASM code  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6299 days Last view: 6298 days |
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Originally posted by Colin actualy, he somewhat right, that was one of the argument my brother used to make my parent get one(even though we never watched a DVD on it  ). so, it maybe helped boost sale but I wouldn't said that was mostly because of this . |
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Mister Lover Red Tektite Since: 12-26-05 From: Wisconsin Last post: 6311 days Last view: 6299 days |
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| I'm partly serious, the Disc Size also killed it and the lack of backwards compatability with a previous generation system like the PS2 has backwards compatability with the PS1. (edited by Mister Lover on 01-19-07 01:52 PM) (edited by Mister Lover on 01-19-07 02:02 PM) |
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Adamant Buzz Blob Staff Wii have Wii  Since: 11-17-05 From: Norway Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| While I do agree that the GC would've benefitted from a DVD player, that was then. Nowadays, as said earlier, DVD players are so cheap and popular everyone who wants one already has one, so there's no realy reason for anyone to put one in their console anymore. Only drives up the price. | |||
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Tanks Spiny Since: 06-19-06 From: Eagle Land Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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Originally posted by Adamant Yeah the Panasonic Q came out right in the middle of Gamecubes great game drought... and nobody even new about it cause it was only in Japan (also Europe I think... Correct me If wrong). |
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Mister Lover Red Tektite Since: 12-26-05 From: Wisconsin Last post: 6311 days Last view: 6299 days |
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Only Japan
Originally posted by TanksOriginally posted by Adamant |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6299 days Last view: 6299 days |
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| I'd be pissed off, having just bought a Wii, but I already have a nice DVD player so nyeah.
I'm positive, though, that DRM is the only reason hardware changes are required. DVD players are required to produce a signal that confuses VCRs, which is done in hardware. Nintendo wanted the Wii to be as cheap as possible (their goal was <$100, but flash memory is expensive), so they decided it was better to save the money by just not putting a DVD player in and thus not having to install such a chip. Also, DVDs are encrypted, so additional costs from licensing fees and buying decryption keys come into play. This all fits well with the statement that the DVD version will be more expensive. The Gamecube's disc drive was essentially a DVD drive with custom firmware, with the discs being DVDs using a slightly different data format such that normal drives' firmwares would freak out trying to read it. AFAIK, the Wii's drive is identical - the hardware was obviously reshaped, and the backdoors were changed (not removed! ), but that's about it. So I bet we see a homebrew DVD player on the Wii fairly soon after we see homebrew on the Wii.
BTW, you're NOT paying $250 to add DVD playing functionality, you're paying a little more than $250 for the entire console PLUS DVD playing functionality. The original console is $250. |
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