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Rydain Sir Kibble Blaze Phoenix Runs with the Dragon Within Since: 11-18-05 From: State College, PA Last post: 6436 days Last view: 6432 days |
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Originally posted by AnyaSo where exactly are people actually protesting the "Merry Christmas" greetings of others? The links you provided said nothing about this at all. It sounds like this is being spun as the ZOMG Secular Liberal Left(tm) getting their panties in a twist, but from what I have seen (and from what I read in those links), it's the exact opposite. I have not seen any manner of organized outcry over a business' policy of putting up a Christmas tree, but I have seen Christians getting upset and threatening boycotts because various businesses and individuals have chosen to use the all-inclusive "Happy Holidays" greeting. I agree with those of you who said this is a bullshit nonissue. Private businesses can use whatever greetings and decorations they want - religious or nonreligious - and if businesses choose to use all-inclusive, non-religious greetings and decorations, it hardly constitutes an attack on the Christmas holiday, let alone a "war". In response to a few posts on the thread - this is not comparable to the Pledge of Allegiance issue at all. The words "under God" were inserted into the pledge by a 1954 law. When President Eisenhower signed the bill into law, he stated that "From this day forward, the millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our Nation and our people to the Almighty." (link) This is a case of making a federal law which respects an establishment of religion. Whether or not you feel that it is an issue worth worrying about, it is a clear violation of the First Amendment. It has nothing to do with any sort of trend toward using nonspecific winter holiday greetings instead of "Merry Christmas". |
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Clockworkz Birdon Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6431 days |
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It's called Christmas. It's merry. Therefore, Merry fucking Christmas. Deal with with it. I'm going to say it. Whether you want me to or not, I'm going to say it. And not a single soul is going to stop me.
(Speaking of the pledge, I just don't say the "under god" part; I'm not going to protest the deity b.s. becasue I believe in something different) |
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Trapster King Dedede Since: 11-19-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6539 days Last view: 6431 days |
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Originally posted by Colin This war doesn´t exist in sweden either and I´m glad it doesn´t. Would probably cause riots or something. "Some losers are even complaining about the Santa at malls, how the children sit on his knee. "OH NOEZ!!!1shift+1. SANTA IS GOT A BONER!!" That´s just...fucked up. |
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Master Higgins Mumbies Since: 11-27-05 From: Viña del Mar Last post: 6830 days Last view: 6830 days |
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Here we don't have the problem either. It may be because almost all chileans are catholic, which is like most of the countries in South america. And we don't force any religion over somebody. Here's just the typical consumerism of the season that all we are used to. | |||
Thexare Metal battleaxe Off to better places Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6431 days |
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Originally posted by Vystrix Nexoth And no one thought about it because no one in their right mind really gave a damn about something so irrelevant to their lives - the tree is part of a Christian holiday (yes, Crystal Shards, I read your post and knew that stuff before anyway, but currently Christmas is a Christian holiday, one that I feel is different from Yule) and if they're not Christian, what's it matter? I understand objections on legal grounds, but even that's being anal. But then, I also think your last paragraph is the biggest load of crap I've ever seen - and part of my job involves cleaning bathrooms. I think people just need to stop getting offended so fucking easily. You don't see me or my mother going around suing schools for trying to make me say "under God" or the towns we've lived in for having Christmas decorations (and not being shy about calling them such) because we know that it doesn't do a damn thing to us to just let it be. But hey, maybe I just don't give a fuck about differences. Maybe I just don't feel like tiptoing around in my speech in hopes of not offending some moron with too much pent-up hatred and not enough ways to release it. Actually, that sounds about right. You're different. Good for you. That doesn't mean I'm going to change how I talk to you; you don't want to be discriminated against for your different beliefs? Good. I'll talk to you just like I'd talk to a Christian, a Jew, a Muslim, a Pagan, or a fellow Atheist. |
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seadolphin Newcomer Since: 12-17-05 From: oregon city, OR Last post: 6858 days Last view: 6858 days |
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I think it's pretty sad about the war on christmas. by the way it's great to see you again colin. I haven't seen you in a while. how have you been? | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6432 days Last view: 6432 days |
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Can't take credit for this, but it's brilliant. Quite unlike the delusional complaints in this thread... but then, bitching about the bogeyman of "political correctness" is usually bullshit, so whatever.
(edited by Arwon on 12-18-05 12:39 AM) |
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