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Posted on 12-18-06 01:15 PM Link | Quote
How many other schools have good AP courses? Where students get 5's frequently? Also please discuss your opinions of AP.
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Posted on 12-18-06 02:25 PM Link | Quote
AP courses, they were nice, but I only took them so my college apps would look better. I much prefered my regular english teacher who actually taught us something interesting than my AP teachers who just taught us how to do well on the test. There's something to be said for a more intensive learning environment that can be present in AP courses but if the teacher is only going to teach to the test then it's lacking a little bit in my opinion.
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Posted on 12-18-06 04:51 PM Link | Quote
AP Psychology was the absolute best! Funnest class with so much stuff to do! I had a great teacher. Currently, I'm doing AP Calc. and Physics. As for AP itslef, I find it really useful for knowing the college load, but I wouldn't take a lot of them.
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Posted on 12-18-06 05:15 PM Link | Quote
Hmmm

I got a 5 on the AP World History exam last year.

My teacher was key in making me learn stuff.

This year, Im taking four AP classes, Computer Science A, Chemistry, English Literature, and US History. Im currently loving every single class

Honestly, I havent noticed the difference between the AP workload and the regular workload... (Maybe Im so used to it is the thing.)
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Posted on 12-18-06 06:53 PM Link | Quote
Mr. Yuen was an old Chinese man who taught my Calc AP class. He made us work extremely hard, but almost every one of his students recieved a 5 on the Calc BC test. Last year, 18 of his students got 5s. The other one got a 4.

My AP US History teacher Mr. Carey was awesome because he obviously enjoyed his job and made history at least sort of interesting for me (and that's hard to do).
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Posted on 12-18-06 07:36 PM Link | Quote
I prefer to get out of Highschool early and take several courses at a Community College--they also supercede any scores on the SAT, and mean more.
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Posted on 12-18-06 09:04 PM Link | Quote
My High School is good with the AP courses
It is Montgomery Catholic High School
*Montgomery AL"
This one dude has a 5.0
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Posted on 12-18-06 10:42 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by SpellWerdzRite
As for AP itslef, I find it really useful for knowing the college load

Just wait till you get to college, there's really no comparison between AP work load and college work load (i.e. college >> ap). I know, your teachers might tell you it's like a college course (I know my AP US history teacher used to say that all the time) but it just isn't true, the two don't compare. Especially AP sciences, when you've got one or two AP sciences it's kinda fun, maybe an hour or two of work a night, but when youv'e got 5 techincal courses with 3 labs and 30 hours of work a week then come and tell me your AP is the same as college.

wow, sorry if that sounds harsh, I'm a little out of it, a couple of late nights doing finals work and papers will do that to you. And I'm not bashing taking AP courses, I know I did, and a whole lot of em, and they were mostly fun, but looking back on it, some of the teachers definitely taught to the test and not the material, which is why my honors physics class learned more than the ap physics, because our teacher was just physics obsessed and wanted to teach us everything, which would've hurt the ap people because they would've learned a lot of stuff that would just distract them on the test.
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Posted on 12-18-06 11:06 PM Link | Quote
I don't believe in AP system--it is more worth it to take the college equivalent at a community college and transfer from there. I was able to so much more because I took community college courses while in high school than via the AP test. With the AP test, you usually need to get a 5 in order to place out a class or two, 4 if you are lucky.

If you don't do well, you end up taking the same course again in college anyways. So that is a big waste.
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Posted on 12-19-06 12:51 PM Link | Quote
We have a pretty good AP Calc here. Our teacher gets her students 5's a lot. It usually beats out the other AP's in priorities among the students who have the qulaifications to take it. My AP US History class is good, because my teacher gives us a lot of things to remember stuff with. However my AP English class, is a joke in comparison to that, as well as the Honors Junior English here.
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Posted on 12-28-06 09:22 PM Link | Quote
AP helps for intro courses like and 100 level programming courses. if you're school has a decent AP program for comp sci you will benefit greatly. i didnt get credit when i did it, i got a 3/5 on the AP exam, so close...woulda saved me a few g's in college...
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I took a few AP courses in high school, but not the typical ones and certainly not 4 a year. I'd like to think I'm somewhat intelligent and I know that I'm hardworking, but I just wasn't able to balance my AP class workload with my other classes, and it ended up stressing me out and ruining my GPA. So last year (junior year) I didn't take any AP (though I was in pre-calc, at least -- quite a challenge for me), and this year I'm only taking one AP class, AP Environmental Science. Yeah I'm a tree hugger.

I think all AP classes + an after school job would be too much for me.
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At my school, AP Chemistry had a roughly 96% pass rate. The high pass rate might have been because of the ten hours of classes in a week, and the labs were intensive, taking hours a night. However, this year, only one semseter of the class has double block periods, so we'll have to see how that works.
I've taken mainly history and math courses at college, and I don't think "harder" aptly describes the difference. The general format of classes is vastly different. It's so easy to get left behind, if one is lazy and doesn't do their side of the work.
In high school, one is given instructions and told to follow them.
Last year (junior) was terrible, although I passed the AP tests in chemistry and english language. Morning classes never seemed to work out for me, and they start at 7:45.
This year, I thought would be a lot more hectic. I'm taking AP Calculus AB, AP Macroeconomics, AP Japanese Language, AP English Literature, Orchestra (Music Theory isn't that great, I hear.), and AP Physics B. One thing I know, at least in Japanese, is that the AP format puts teachers under a lot of stress. It's a new AP class, so all at once, she has to shift the curriculum from what she wants to teach--things like culture--to teaching us some hundreds of kanji before may. Another thing about getting 5s on the AP test, disregard the medern language tests, because a lot are just taken by native speakers, therefore not expressing the actual difficulty of the test.
This is what I think is one of the major downfalls of the AP testing system, it forces teachers and students alike to follow a narrow-minded sort of curriculum in order to pass the test.
AP Calculus AB seems to be very straightforward, in the afternoon at least.
In AP Macroeconomics, we practice with the AP material, although the class tests are harder. Nevertheless, it's mostly intuitive, in my opinion, and the lectures are really interesting.
My AP English Literature class has a lot of homework, but most of it is really self-explanatory. It's a shame that most of the students don't contribute to the class because they're going to this-or-that Ivy League school for some sort of reason, and don't need to worry about grades and don't care much for English. In most English classes, I think that the class makes as much a difference as the teacher, and this year, both of them aren't that great.
I think my Physics class is most amazing though. Not only do we learn the course material, but a good deal of the history of physics and calculus as well. And this is a class of students who might only be taking algebra or trigonometry. We don't learn formuli, but how things work. The class also depends on students just helping each other out, and at the end of the day, knowing what on earth is happening. It's really an inspirational class, people come at lunch and over break to come to make sure they know how to do physics, and our teacher is always there for us. I know it might sound really corny, but that's the case. And the AP scores are mostly high too. There's no homework and the labs are always graded 100% if one does them. I'd try to stay back a year just ot take his Physics C class, but for some reason, I seem to be passing my other courses--for now at least.
At the community college I took U.S. History, Political Sciences, Trigonometry, and Statistics. I listened in class a lot, although I didn't study much at home, except for Political Sciences, which I was interested in, and got As and Bs in those classes. I'm hoping to take microeconomics at college over the spring semester, but the class I want (read: not-morning class and at the nearby campus) might be filled up. Compared to the AP courses I've taken, a lot more revolves around tests, and not assigned homework. This of course, doesn't mean that you don't have to study, but that it's up to one's own volition. There were a lot more class discussions than lectures for one thing.
But then, I'd like to think that I'm rather unintelligent, so the reality might not be consistant with my testimony. The year's worth of college and AP classes I've taken might have just been a fluke, and they might both be absurdly hard.
To answer where students get a grade of 5 on the AP tests frequently, the distribution of grades is on the collegeboard website, although at my school, I would say Environmental Science, Physics, Chemistry, and the Calculus classes had a high rate of 4s and 5s. But it's really up to what sort of student you are, and what type of class you wind up in.
But about the disparity between college courses and AP courses, I would reiterate that it's mostly the format, although a group of visting English Literature alumni said that college was easy compared to high school, with the exception of the guy who took engineering at Berkeley. He said Berekely is hard as one would think, and to get used to getting Cs.
So that's my opinion and experience, but it varies a lot with different schools and people.
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