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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin                   Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| I think this has been discussed before, but a thread was never specifically made about it.,
Microsoft XNA Totally awesome. (edited by Racer Xeo on 12-13-06 02:20 AM) |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828   Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6302 days |
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So it's reuseable code. 
Also, "XNA" reminds me of "LAME" which apparently Ain't an MP3 Encoder. |
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| It's also dependant on the .NET framework, which means:
Only windows users can use it Only people who want to install .NET can use it Only windows users will be able to play games made with it Only people who want to install .NET will be able to play games made with it Yeah, that sounds like one of Microsoft's ideas alright. |
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D 2007 D Since: 02-19-06 Last post: 6348 days Last view: 6348 days |
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| Considering MS is a company and this will earn them extra money, yes, they're thinking rationally.
Not to mention, if htere's enough good games made with it, it could tide some people over who were thinking of switching to something else. |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6302 days |
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| Except .NET is free, so depending on it doesn't make them extra money. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| They're generating a potentially larger user base. They're not losing money.
I like this idea, and I think most companies should implement this. |
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D 2007 D Since: 02-19-06 Last post: 6348 days Last view: 6348 days |
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Originally posted by Alice No, but to put them on XBLive right now, I think you need... what, a $99 yearly license to do it? |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6302 days |
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Well just imagine if it were free? It was described a while back as "the YouTube of video games". Scrolling through 42 pages of "HALO PENIS MOD" to find a game doesn't sound fun.
Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination Wow. So suppose Apple did the same thing and started making some awesome games, you'd be OK with having to buy a Mac to play them? MS is already doing precisely this with DX10 and Vista. What you're basically saying is "I want future products to require me to buy the latest Microsoft software and install their latest unnecessary bloatware". If you already love Microsoft and do this out of habit, then simply replace "Microsoft" in that sentence with any other company name. Have fun buying a new TV, VCR and stereo with each new game console.  |
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FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos  Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| It's also dependant on the .NET framework, which means:
Only windows users can use it Use Mono. Magically support other operating systems and hardware architectures! Only people who want to install .NET can use it Anybody that doesn't have .NET or Mono is probably crazy or really knows that they don't need it Only windows users will be able to play games made with it Only if .NET allows you to use DirectX I suppose, but I haven't seen any .NET apps/games using DirectX (rather, they always seem to use SDL or GTK or something) Only people who want to install .NET will be able to play games made with it Didn't you already make this point? Yeah, that sounds like one of Microsoft's ideas alright. The only thing bad I see is the price, the proprietariness, the inability to distribute X360 binaries, and possibly a restriction on your own code (otherwise, you may as well distribute X360 binaries) |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| HH, I own a Mac. I'd love for AWESOME FUCKING GAMES to come out on this instead of sitting around and playing Starcraft all the time.
What I'm saying is that, regardless of the platform, I want to see more and more and more content being generated, controlled, and creatively utilized by users and independant developers. But, I'm sorry. I have this damned thing called intelligence. Because I don't buy into your droolingly retarded hyperbole. -> "Have fun buying a new TV, VCR and stereo with each new game console" Have fun being mocked...I mean...VCR? WTF. |
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Valcion Knuckle Joe too much high power man  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| lol anti-microsoft fanboyism | |||
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6302 days |
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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination Maybe that's what you meant, but what you said is: Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination Which could be interpreted as "more companies should provide a way for users to create content" OR "more companies should encourage the use of tools that will require the end-user to buy/install/upgrade/etc a bunch of new junk" (IE .NET, Vista, etc).
These sentences seem to conflict. I mean, intelligent people aren't really known for trolling.
OK then DVD recorder or whatever you want to substitute in there. I would hope you can see the point here. If indeed other companies start implementing this sort of thing, who's to say we won't have to "upgrade" all our A/V equipment to versions that have some "special new feature" required by their product? Just as we have to "upgrade" Windows to play DX10 games, and install .NET to play XNA games? |
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Thexare Metal battleaxe Off to better places  Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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Originally posted by Alice Ok, right here's where your argument fell apart. That's... pretty much how the console game market works, and I KNOW you know that. HH, do us all a favor and just shut up. We don't need your broken-beyond-repair logic polluting what could be a decent thread. |
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FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination Quake 4 is on Mac OS X.  But seriously, there's far more than 'just a handful', when you count dozens of good free games (NetHack ftw) |
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D 2007 D Since: 02-19-06 Last post: 6348 days Last view: 6348 days |
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Originally posted by AliceOriginally posted by Plus Sign Abomination Common sense is the ability to determine which of these he means. You lack it. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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Originally posted by FreeDOS +Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination I like RTSs, primarily. And I have a few other things for on here. But really, not that much variety =P |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6302 days |
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Originally posted by ThexareOriginally posted by Alice Excluding perhaps the PS3, a game console and a computer that can play modern games plus the OS needed to run them are two very different things when it comes to price. Originally posted by D1337 "Common sense" = "ability to read minds" now? That's interesting. |
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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Originally posted by FreeDOS + That covers a whole lot of people, you know. I've only ever encountered two programs that required .NET at all, both of which didn't do anything that I couldn't do with other, .NET-less programs if I wanted to. And in the end, I never found any use for the functions they preformed anyways. .NET is simply a colossal waste of space for the average end-user. And for programmers.. well, they should use open-source code that they're actually allowed to distribute with their program, or do it themselves. |
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C`aos Porcupo  Since: 03-02-06 From: AB, Canada Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6302 days |
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I can count the number of completely Java apps I use on a regular basis on one hand, does that mean we should throw that out too?
Originally posted by Valcion |
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Thexare Metal battleaxe Off to better places Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| Oh, I guess I didn't make myself clear the first time.
HH, take your anti-Microsoft crap elsewhere. Preferably GameFAQs, I want it as far away from this forum as I can get it. Everyone else, quit feeding him. The off-topic bullshit stops now. |
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