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Posted on 12-09-06 11:11 AM Link | Quote
I've noticed an odd problem in one of my hacks. In one level, I have MikeyK's custom block SMB3 pipes (I got tired of FuSoYa's pipes messing up after placing SMB3 GFX in a patch with them). They're working great so far (except that they move too fast), but... The level is a vertical level (I already patched the patch for sprites to react to these pipes in vertical levels), and when Mario enters the level (The FG and BG Initial Positions are 00, like they should be for this level), going towards the bottom creates... GARBAGE. Horiz. and Vertical scrolling is set to Variable. Is that my problem? Or is it the pipes? I'm wiling to set Layer 2 scrolling to None if either one is the problem- They won't scroll that way, and thus problems are solved. ...But it doesn't look as good.
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Posted on 12-10-06 06:03 AM Link | Quote
Make sure your entrance isn't in an screen with an odd number (You have to use 00, 02,04 and so on - otherwise you will get garbage)

If the vertical scrolling is set to Variable, that could of course cause problems as well, just try to set it to None.
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Posted on 12-10-06 12:19 PM Link | Quote
I had the entrance at Screen 00 and it didn't work, so I just set it to None. It doesn't look as good, but at least it stops that garbage.

I still would like to know how to fix it another way so I can use other Layer 2 (BG) scrolling modes.
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Posted on 12-10-06 03:11 PM Link | Quote
You could still check out the "Slow"-option for Vertical scroll.
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Posted on 12-10-06 11:56 PM Link | Quote
If I remember correctly, vertical levels in SMW are not made to work with a background set to anything besides "None" for the BG scrolling. SMW stores extra graphics data directly below the background, so when you scroll the background down (something that normally can't happen) you reveal this extra data, which appears as garbage. If you don't have a background and instead have a level on Layer 2, you can use certain sprites to scroll the background sideways or do other effects, such as those in Morton's Castle. Otherwise, I'd suggest leaving the BG Scroll set to None on vertical levels.
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Posted on 12-11-06 12:23 PM Link | Quote
You can use "slow", of course. It depends on your vertical level's lenght.

From the LM helpfile: (The FAQ, actually)

This problem tends to come up fairly often in vertical levels. Nintendo simply did not design the backgrounds so they can be tiled vertically, and did not really take vertical levels into account when creating the BG init position list. You can try setting layer 2 vertical scrolling to "slow" or "none". Also try changing the screen number of the entrance. If you put the entrance at the top of the level, you can use all except the very bottom screen (0x1B) with scrolling set to slow. Trying to do the same thing by putting the entrance at the bottom gives you far fewer usable screens to work with
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Posted on 12-11-06 05:13 PM Link | Quote
Oh please no... Not again...

I'm having problems with the Mario-Only and Luigi-Only Blocks in BlockTool again. Like last time, I've used SWR's fix for them that makes the Mario Block rewrite "Mario" in the status bar. Like last time, THE BLOCKS WON'T WORK. Neither Mario nor Luigi can make the blocks work (they're solid for BOTH of them), and I've tried setting them to different act like settings, but nothing is working. I seriously need help on this. I really want to use these blocks, but... How can I if they refuse to work? Worse yet, neither the original blocks nor the readme for the fixed ones say what the blocks are supposed to act like. Someone on SMWCentral had a problem with them not working, and was told to make them act like Block 40. I did that, but they were solid for both Mario and Luigi. Setting them to 25 does the exact same thing. Did I change the wrong offset things in BlockTool? The readme says to "change the block offsets of 184 to 31", 185 to 62, and 186 to 70. Doesn't that mean I have to change the Above, Below, and Sides offsets to those numbers, or do I also have to change the Sprite Offsets to those values, too? (See, this is why I named this thread "Odd Problems". )
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