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Bones_the_Great

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Since: 07-11-06
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Posted on 12-07-06 11:50 PM Link | Quote
lol, sorry buddy but you cant use this patch on a hack. Only the original rom. You just lost your entire hack... Hope you made copies!

BTW Icegoom, you gonna release an updated version?


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Joshua368

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Since: 11-12-06
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Posted on 12-08-06 12:33 AM Link | Quote
I said "copy"; there was no way I was going to risk my hack's well-being for a brief playthrough with new graphics. Nothing was lost.

Although are you sure about that? It sure is limiting if this can only be used for the original game and things built off of that...


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Bones_the_Great

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Since: 07-11-06
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Posted on 12-08-06 01:10 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, he's gonna release a full version that can be added to any rom i think. This one that hes releasing now is just for checking the graphics out. Just keep working with the default graphics and pretend they look good until hes done.
icegoom

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Since: 03-06-06
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Posted on 12-08-06 10:21 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Joshua368
It sure is limiting if this can only be used for the original game and things built off of that...
Originally posted by Bones_the_Great
Yeah, he's gonna release a full version that can be added to any rom i think. This one that hes releasing now is just for checking the graphics out.


Is it even possible to make a patch that would change graphics but not affect level data? This isn't a patch or a hack so much as it's a collection of graphics and shared palettes. (Maybe it should be released a zip file full of .bin and .pal files instead of an .ips...) You can add them to any in-progress hack by extracting them from SMWRedrawn and then inserting them into your own game.

Originally posted by Critical Phlogus
Looks awesome. Why not change Reznor into Super Team from Super Mario Strikers? Those robots are awesome. They can shoot fireballs from their hands.
Originally posted by Joshua368
I'm pretty sure, for this patch at least, he wants each bad guy to match their originals. As in, be the same species.

Yeah, I probably already went too far changing Fishbones into Sharkbones, Reznors into Wario World Triceratopses, and Fishin' Boos into Yoshi's Island Stretches. I should have kept these graphics in the same basic form as their original SMW counterparts. Doing sprites based off of blurry N64/Cube/Wii screenshots is pretty difficult anyway.

Incidentally, my original intention when I started this was to just fill out the SMB3 sprite set. I didn't do this because I have trouble doing stuff in SMB3's style. I did a fairly complete SMB3 Koopa set a while back, though:



Maybe I should submit those as ExGfx at SMWCentral or something. Somebody might be able to get some use out of them.

Originally posted by Bones_the_Great
Noooooooooo!

I love both styles, how am I supposed to choose?

Have you posted any of this new graphics on your website? You should post it all on your website so people can check it out. And you should post the older stuff too, so I can compare.

The styles are different enough between Redrawn and Lost World that upgrading some sprites would mean upgrading them all, so I probably won't bother. Changing the Koopas would cause a lot of problems; they'd lose their easy portability between hacks since you have to do remapping to keep them from glitching up other sprites. Stupid Nintendo using the blank space tile above the Koopa's head as blank space in a bunch of other sprites...

Man, I haven't touched my site in months. I need to update all those Lost World screenshots...
Raccoon Sam

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Since: 11-20-05
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Posted on 12-08-06 12:58 PM Link | Quote
Have you considered respriting Super Mario Bros. 3 other Mario games?
Joshua368

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Since: 11-12-06
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Posted on 12-08-06 01:35 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by icegoom
You can add them to any in-progress hack by extracting them from SMWRedrawn and then inserting them into your own game.


That's a good idea, I'll try that. Thanks.

(BTW, I'd prefer you keep working on Lost World than picking up on this again... but that's just me.)
Pac

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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 12-08-06 01:51 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by icegoom

I'll make good use of this, icegoom, thanks a lot.
FirePhoenix0

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Since: 10-10-06
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Posted on 12-08-06 04:11 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by icegoom
I did a fairly complete SMB3 Koopa set a while back, though:



Maybe I should submit those as ExGfx at SMWCentral or something. Somebody might be able to get some use out of them.
Woah, those are pretty sweet, Icegoom. I say go for it submitting them to SMWcentral. Someone could definitely make use of those Koopas.
icegoom

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Since: 03-06-06
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Posted on 12-08-06 07:29 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Pac
I'll make good use of this, icegoom, thanks a lot.

Glad to hear it. I was actually looking at your Return to the Mushroom Kingdom thread yesterday and remembered that I'd made those. I went ahead and submitted them to the ExGfx section at SMWCentral.

Originally posted by Joshua368
I'd prefer you keep working on Lost World than picking up on this again... but that's just me.

Don't worry, Lost World is my primary concern right now. (Although I haven't got much done on it this week besides some remappings) But since I have to make new foreground sets and overworld graphics for that game anyway, those graphics will eventually be transferred back to Redrawn.

Originally posted by Raccoon Sam
Have you considered respriting Super Mario Bros. 3 other Mario games?

What, the NES games? I've made new sprites for my my SMB1 hack Bowser Vs. Wario and my perpetually unfinished SMB2 hack, but nothing that other people can really use as a base like this. I only tried SMB3 hacking once, created one level with Thwomps, and never even attempted to change any graphics. Maybe when I could take on such a project when I'm done with Lost World, but I typically just make sprites whenever I need them.
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